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Supaman771 03-06-2011 06:50 PM

How do we fix corrupt staff?
 
Rehire them of course!

*Discuss

salesman 03-06-2011 07:46 PM

did something happen?

smirt362 03-06-2011 09:24 PM

Chop off their hands

papajchris 03-06-2011 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1634902)
did something happen?

My concern is that chris is back, and what rights does he have?

Does anyone check logs daily anymore? I just can't see how he could have changed in less than 5 months.

Furthermore you hired water95 who warped into every hotel room and stole tons of weapons and then dropped them and what not. I remember that clearly as i spent 6+ hours cleaning that garbage up. He went by the name Zach then.

Another possible concern is casper. It was in his house that one of exolias spawners was found. And if i recall you can find chat logs in exolias recordings of casper using the strength setter.

I don't know your whole staff list, but it just seems like a great deal of them have a past of the few i do recall.

Im not saying necessarily get rid of them, but definitely watch them. Who knows maybe chris will turn around like Jerret did. But Jerret worked his way back through helping on Zodiac Dev first.

Staff abuse on Era is obvious. I think there was a three day span when i caught 3-4 people abusing and Darg obviously removed them, but the point is, majority of staff abuse and get away with it. You need to make sure the PR's aren't just checking players, but they are checking your team

Dnegel 03-06-2011 10:32 PM

Hang their genitalia up in a tree somewhere in Rutland

Supaman771 03-06-2011 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1634902)
did something happen?

Nothing necessarily happened.

But they did rehire most of the people that were fired for corruption and abuse. A few of them are even admins, this concerned me [and obviously] some other players. So I made this thread to see what everyone thinks about the PWA/new management doing such things.

I mean we all remember GC getting canned and torn apart for hiring a few unwanted staff members, but they just bring back these guys who were actually found guilty of DEMOLISHING the server and give them high jobs to pick up where they left off.

Not to make it personal but some of these players weren't even reset or had their tools removed from the firings, and I even know some players who USDed with Exolia and got 30 day bans, but came back and still have all the items they USDed.

Don't you think there's even a tiny bit of a problem?

MontyPython 03-06-2011 11:11 PM

Stop hiring humans.

Crono 03-06-2011 11:12 PM

you hire crono, the least corrupt staff evar

Geno 03-06-2011 11:24 PM

but then crono must hire me. most corrupt staff evar.

Demisis_P2P 03-07-2011 12:16 AM

The best way to fix corrupt staff would be to pay them IRL.

Geno 03-07-2011 12:31 AM

^Yup, you will get some higher quality staff members as well

Unkownsoldier 03-07-2011 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1634974)
The best way to fix corrupt staff would be to pay them IRL.

Good, we can pay them with your bank account.

Zeross 03-07-2011 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1634994)
Good, we can pay them with your bank account.

Haha, or just stop rotating the administration in the same exact unsuccessful circle.

Its like if the Manager fails, the Server Admin who had the exact same terrible idea takes his/her's place. We go through the entire thing once again, then his/her co-manager or server admin does takes over and we're back at it.

Honestly, if a ship sinks, every higher-up in the crew should be held responsible. A captain doesn't man a ship by himself, and therefore it he's not solely responsible for its sinking. Seems too complex a concept to grasp.

Furthermore, it went from being good at your job to simply "not getting fired".
I mean, seriously, does how well you do your job count for anything anymore?
People get promoted for just holding a position, barely.

Demisis_P2P 03-07-2011 03:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1634994)
Good, we can pay them with your bank account.

Don't see what that has to do with anything.


People want to be staff, but nobody wants to work for free, so they create their own incentives.
If you elect to pay staff it gives them a new reward for being staff, provides more motivation to do work and also provides a real incentive for them to NOT abuse and risk getting fired.

"What do I get in return for the work that I do? The ability to warp, jail people, and set stats."
After a while these powers stop seeming like tools that you use to do your job and more like the reward you get for doing your job. Providing a second incentive would help to clearly distinguish the two.

Zeross 03-07-2011 03:38 AM

That explains the reasoning of the continious unsuccessful circle, and perhaps touches on an overall issue. However, the issue seems less relevant or apparent on most other servers. Zodiac possesses a similar traffic to era. Yet, this isn't as large an issue.
Maybe its because the staff team is more open and less recycled?


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