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WaDaFack 02-17-2011 11:55 PM

iPhone Graal updates on pc version?
 
Stop posting them, we don't care. Put them on the Graal site or something, not the PC version of Graal.
Besides, whats the point? 90% of the iPhone players don't even know about the PC version of Graal, how are they going to see the update?

xAndrewx 02-18-2011 12:22 AM

no? o_o

There are not alot of updates on PC version- so why not promote iPhone?

ffcmike 02-18-2011 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1631494)
no? o_o

His post may come across as crude but his points are mostly true, there isn't really much of an audience for this type of thing here unless you're only trying to prove a certain point to Era's players and/or staff, whereas such publications are likely to be very effective with the likes of facebook and youtube if you're not attempting this already.

Plus you're always going to have people such as myself ridiculing the "*NEW* Hats™" updates :p.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1631494)
There are not alot of updates on PC version- so why not promote iPhone?

Perhaps if there was a movement towards encouraging iPhone users to migrate to PC Graal there'd be both more updates to PC Graal and more justification for publishing these iPhone updates here.

fowlplay4 02-18-2011 12:44 AM

To keep consistent with fake statistics, I'd say people don't actually care for 90% of Graal news in general. So for the sake of change might as well keep posting them.

Zeke 02-18-2011 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by WaDaFack (Post 1631489)
Stop posting them, we don't care.

Working on iClassic, I think it's kinda cool to see what the other servers iDevice servers are doing. :)

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1631502)
To keep consistent with fake statistics, I'd say people don't actually care for 90% of Graal news in general.

I have the News feeds on my 'My Yahoo' page just for the heck of it.. some of us do check it.

FrozenLies0 02-18-2011 05:36 AM

imo it's not really a big deal lol

Conqueror 02-18-2011 06:18 AM

Not to be overly critical, but I'm going to have to agree with WaDa. I almost feel like the iphone news updates gives staff self-justification in the sense of not having to release new content to the pc. If you kept the iphone updates out, it would show how little is being done to servers here. Or at least kingdoms. Not to say staff isn't busy however. Because it's fact that staff members like Tig are working very hard on kingdoms for iphone.

WaDaFack 02-18-2011 08:29 AM

I mean.. post the updates on the iPhone version of Graal where people actually care.
It's probably an excuse to show that work is being done on the PC version of Graal, so they flood it with random updates that we don't really care about; iPhone Graal updates?

fowlplay4 02-18-2011 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Conqueror (Post 1631565)
Not to be overly critical, but I'm going to have to agree with WaDa. I almost feel like the iphone news updates gives staff self-justification in the sense of not having to release new content to the pc. If you kept the iphone updates out, it would show how little is being done to servers here. Or at least kingdoms. Not to say staff isn't busy however. Because it's fact that staff members like Tig are working very hard on kingdoms for iphone.

The news barely has any weight as it is on Graal, let alone influence on staff and their work towards their respective servers.

There are far greater reasons for the lack of updates on Graal than stupid news articles.

Hell, a Twitter feed would be more appropriate for displaying the amount of small updates that occur on Graal instead of the articles that get posted now.

xAndrewx 02-18-2011 09:13 AM

We have a facebook page which we post updates on.

alskdjfhg 02-18-2011 11:21 AM

I enjoy taking a look at the iPhone updates. Especially Andrews! :D

JesusFreak250 02-18-2011 11:37 AM

I care, I think its great!

Donark 02-19-2011 04:11 PM

how come they don't promote PC graal on iPhone graal? It would actually be promoting something

cyan3 02-19-2011 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaDaFack (Post 1631489)
Stop posting them, we don't care. Put them on the Graal site or something, not the PC version of Graal.
Besides, whats the point? 90% of the iPhone players don't even know about the PC version of Graal, how are they going to see the update?

iPhone Servers are still Graal Worlds and disallowing them to post news on the login server would be wrong. Also the news from the Wiki is updated so that it will be visible on graalonline.com/news, the RSS Feed: http://www.graalonline.com/news.xml, and on the login server which is updated simultaneously. I also tweet the updates on Twitter @GraalNews. Out of this list the news is visible in five different places including the login server.

kia345 02-19-2011 06:53 PM

You promote them in the wrong place.
Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1631763)
Well... this is the Playerworlds subforum... and these are Era iPhone updates... but when I pay for access to Playerworlds, I can't access Era iPhone...

Someone's in the wrong place!


RegretZ 02-19-2011 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Donark (Post 1631828)
how come they don't promote PC graal on iPhone graal? It would actually be promoting something

I think this is the most productive idea put forth so far.
Showing some of the PC news on the iPhone servers would help attract people to PC (Hopefully), and increase the population a good amount. Although there may be clashes between the veteran PC players and new iPhone players, it'd still be worth a shot.
It'd also justify showing iPhone news here, at least that way all news would be universal.
All considered, the only problem would be convincing the managers of the iPhone servers to agree to the idea.

MattKan 02-19-2011 07:24 PM

Simple Resolution: Make an iPhone section where Era iPhone can post their news

Admins 02-19-2011 08:14 PM

Simple solution: post more updates/news for PC servers :D

Crono 02-19-2011 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1631885)
Simple solution: post more updates/news for PC servers :D

can i post the news x-x?

ffcmike 02-19-2011 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyan3 (Post 1631835)
iPhone Servers are still Graal Worlds and disallowing them to post news on the login server would be wrong.

Perhaps PC servers should get their news posted on iPhone Graal news feeds, as they are still Graal Worlds disallowing them to post news would be wrong.

Cloven 02-19-2011 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1631904)
Perhaps PC servers should get their news posted on iPhone Graal news feeds, as they are still Graal Worlds disallowing them to post news would be wrong.

This should be being done regardless, though, I suppose I can't blame this lack of action considering the state of PC-Graal. :(

xAndrewx 02-19-2011 09:39 PM

Do you mean in game @ Thor?

ffcmike 02-19-2011 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloven (Post 1631907)
This should be being done regardless, though, I suppose I can't blame this lack of action considering the state of PC-Graal. :(

I would say that it has made a small impact already, even with Graal's inflated prices, lack of lifetime Classic subscription being purchasable, the lack of updates and the many other problems ontop of the fact that action has not properly been attempted, it seems as if iPhone has already provided more players to PC Graal over the last year than through any other means (word of mouth being 2nd).

It is somewhat of a double-edged sword though as PC Graal would otherwise have likely have seen a better level of care from its management, and I think this is what makes it all the more frustrating when you see iPhone being promoted on the PC but not the opposite.


Quote:

Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1631908)
Do you mean in game @ Thor?

I wasn't referring to anything specific, just challenging the logic, although it could possibly work in Era's case.

MattKan 02-19-2011 11:07 PM

Simple Solution: Add iPhone Forums here? Anyone in favor of it?

cyan3 02-19-2011 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffcmike (Post 1631904)
Perhaps PC servers should get their news posted on iPhone Graal news feeds, as they are still Graal Worlds disallowing them to post news would be wrong.

To clarify my post, the news doesn't just go on the login server it goes on graalonline.com, the graalwiki, graal rss feed, login server, and I tweet the link on twitter. The login server is just one out of those five places that the news is visible which would suggest that iPhone users may use one of the other methods of viewing.

xAndrewx 02-19-2011 11:40 PM

There are alot of classic worlds that produce updates but don't notify the Graal News Staff.

I think the GN Staff are amazing, they're doing a great job. I do alot of updates which are not updated on Era iPhone, because there are alot we don't want to spam the news.
If you check back in 2009, I spammed an update each day on the Graal News wiki- because we could (for Era PC).

I'm trying to make Graal a better place, and thanks to iPhone- i think; Era PC has more of a player count. I don't want to cause any problems, I want Graal PC in general to achive the same player count as iPhone. I'm sorry if this is offending anyone x-x

MattKan 02-20-2011 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1631961)
There are alot of classic worlds that produce updates but don't notify the Graal News Staff.

I think the GN Staff are amazing, they're doing a great job. I do alot of updates which are not updated on Era iPhone, because there are alot we don't want to spam the news.
If you check back in 2009, I spammed an update each day on the Graal News wiki- because we could (for Era PC).

I'm trying to make Graal a better place, and thanks to iPhone- i think; Era PC has more of a player count. I don't want to cause any problems, I want Graal PC in general to achive the same player count as iPhone. I'm sorry if this is offending anyone x-x

People don't like how your "iPhone World" is taking over a section of Graal PC. It's a symbol of Graal iPhone taking over Graal PC even more.

I think Era iPhone is a fun world, though, and deserves to have its news posted often on the forums. However, since people don't like that it is "spamming" (not really, but yeah) their Era Forum that they feel should be used for other stuff, then Era iPhone should get its own subforum. (Classic iPhone could have one too, but I don't think many people would be interested in reading countless posts about the new hats in snowtown every day)

ffcmike 02-20-2011 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattKan (Post 1631969)
(Classic iPhone could have one too, but I don't think many people would be interested in reading countless posts about the new hats in snowtown every day)

That would have to be a whole subforum in itself ;).

Bubble13 02-20-2011 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattKan (Post 1631969)
People don't like how your "iPhone World" is taking over a section of Graal PC. It's a symbol of Graal iPhone taking over Graal PC even more.

I think Era iPhone is a fun world, though, and deserves to have its news posted often on the forums. However, since people don't like that it is "spamming" (not really, but yeah) their Era Forum that they feel should be used for other stuff, then Era iPhone should get its own subforum. (Classic iPhone could have one too, but I don't think many people would be interested in reading countless posts about the new hats in snowtown every day)

I personally hate how an update on Classic iPhone is a new hat. They don't seem to listen to our ideas.

xAndrewx 02-20-2011 09:08 AM

Classic doesn't have an active developer to make new stuff, Era has myself for scripting on the other hand =[

Luda 02-20-2011 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattKan (Post 1631942)
Simple Solution: Add iPhone Forums here? Anyone in favor of it?

I agree but iPhone players don't have actual accounts to sign in with.

Crono 02-20-2011 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luda (Post 1632072)
I agree but iPhone players don't have actual accounts to sign in with.

i dont see why that wont be implemented =[.

gwFCCtennis 02-20-2011 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1632058)
Classic doesn't have an active developer to make new stuff, Era has myself for scripting on the other hand =[

and thats why you guys get stuff done. Classic iPhone's last major update was Deadwood being opened at Halloween.

kia345 02-20-2011 06:32 PM

Whatever happened to Zone iPhone?

WaDaFack 02-20-2011 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1631885)
Simple solution: post more updates/news for PC servers :D

The last PC Graal update was on Jan 30th
Maloria goes Classic

nutin' happenin' wit these servers nowadays.

gwFCCtennis 02-20-2011 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1632116)
Whatever happened to Zone iPhone?

I want it back.

MattKan 02-20-2011 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gwFCCtennis (Post 1632107)
and thats why you guys get stuff done. Classic iPhone's last major update was Deadwood being opened at Halloween.

If you go to the Classic iPhone Page in the AppStore it says:

!New Horses Have been released!
!New Halloween Town: Deadwood

NewYorkerNick 02-21-2011 01:40 AM

Are people really arguing over this? Lol...

Fulg0reSama 02-21-2011 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattKan (Post 1632168)
!New Halloween Town: Deadwood

http://www.dotallyrad.com/wp-content...2/deadwood.jpg

gwFCCtennis 02-21-2011 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NewYorkerNick (Post 1632255)
Are people really arguing over this? Lol...

We can't all be magicians.


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