do you want a new server?
 

i think this should be taken into consideration. i realize the subjectivity of this question, as the follow up would be "what type of new server?" or "what type of improvements and to which server?" but i'd like to bracket that off for now. the real question is whether or not the current servers are what players want to continue to play on or not: if given the option of a new server coming out, would you still play the servers on the active list right now?

i hope this will help orient any open developers, and the GDT, as to what priorities should be taken regarding UC and public servers. should the player's want to have a new server come out (whatever that might be) then it would be a good choice to go and help those new UC servers. if player's want to stay on the servers that are already out, then it would be a good choice to focus on improving those servers instead of working on new ones (whatever those improvements might be).

the message is clear (to me) that some new content is needed: as to what that content should be is a mystery. a follow up thread, given the direction this thread will take, should be posted to work out the specifics details; but that we know improvements want to be made (or not made) is important in itself.

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personally i feel the need for a new server, as i myself have tried to suggest improvements for the current servers, and they never seem to go anywhere. at the same time, i've tried to produce a new server and was brushed aside, leaving the project unfinished and not even under my control. so it would seem that if a new server is really wanted, the GDT and other developers should help out those UC servers so projects like mine doesn't go to waste.

I personally think they need to work on the current ones, how are we going to split up about all 300 people who actually are here. We don't even have enough people to fill up the current existing ones.

N-Pulse for UC.

I'm not so sure that GDT should be focussing on a specific server regardless of it being new or current, I think that if they were to focus on both creating and documenting resources that are typically created by most servers then both current and future servers would benefit from that, this is the type of thing individual people quite often do within the scripting forums voluntarily, it's just rare that these contributions have really caught on, even the good ones seem to be forgotten as time passes.

What ffcmike (Thor) said. The GDT was not formed to develop servers.

if the GDT is focusing on making things common to every server, such as documentation or even creating content, then that means the focus is on UC servers and not active ones, since active servers would be far evolved to that of UC servers. i never meant to intend that the GDT was created to develop servers: this thread isn't only for the GDT anyways

This. It'll help them be spurred to develop as well as, quite simply, they don't deserve Classic.

I personally think that the focus of developers should be put into one NEW server, and the purpose of the development of that server being to make a server that all the players on Graal can enjoy, not being targeted at one specific group of people.

The goal of the GDT needs to be abstract in helping Graal as a whole, not a specific server. This means fixing scripting documentation, releasing scripting tools to help startup servers, creating tutorials in level creation (e.g. cliffing), providing graphics (like the "free tiles" graphics Dusty and others have made) for all servers that need them, and more.

The Global Development Team can't do anything that I couldn't do myself, therefore it's important that it has a strong structure in motivating people to continue their work as a member of the GDT and that the GDT is effective in managing projects and getting them done.

This. :D

Stop implying the gdt is going to do anything, and if you want a server, try and get good people to help you that aren't there because their told to (or are trying to impress others).

I don't get why you guys are all "Omg stop it, GDT don't make servers blah blah", when no one even implied that GDT should make a server, and it was actually clarified that this wasn't being directed towards GDT, so where are you guys getting all your bull shiz from?

Soala said he would work for me if I made him a bush! (Since I think he's a good scripter and ganier!)

this is some interesting voting. i thought it would be a lot more one sided than it has currently gone, at almost 50/50

Not entirely. You only gave us two current options for the GDT, if there was a "neither" option I feel that it would get more votes. Why? Well because GDT wasn't made on the basis of making a new sever, but simply to enhance the current game-play around the whole entire game and not just on one specific server.

...and that wasn't the point of this thread at all? this isn't just to focus on the GDT, which i'm pretty sure has been said several times already. a "neither" option would mean that - what - developers and the GDT should work on things unrelated to both UC and active servers?

You contradicted yourself..

Read the bold in your quote and then look at the poll question please.

Also, the poll has no connection with the actual thread title. "new server" means starting from scratch yet, you seem to be talking about UC servers and current servers, all of which are not new..

The only reason why this thread started is because the 3 MAIN servers we have now are just boring as hell, since they've existed for way too long.

well let's see, it says: so where exactly did i contradict myself?

the "new server or not" is an appropriate question because those are the two focuses you can take as a developer: either get a job on the current servers, or join/start a new server (whether you decide to work alone on side projects like dusty has been making or you work on a UC server like new n-pulse or delteria; it's semantically different but it's still sort of the same thing). the same applies to the GDT although the consensus seems to be that their first priorities should be for projects that contribute to both sides

Well the thread is about developers and you said above that its just not about developers.. which is confusing because thats what your asking about. Also should I point out, its unfair for ALL of GDT to focus on server, their focus is to help all different servers in need, whether they are starting up or they new basic content or help. This has been stated several times so I don't know where you are getting confused.. o.o

why would it be unfair if all the GDT worked on a single server? i think that'd be awesome, as through it something worth while could be produced

Having a complete and dedicated team all work on one server, compared to having regular players on different servers who do what they can in their spare time, would be worthwhile.

It would be awesome, but thats not the point of the GDT. If we focus all our developers on one server, yes we will get something good but it would be unfair towards the other servers who have worked long and hard and didn't get any aid from the GDT.

One server at a time would probably be best and most logical. Also, the GDT would not have to necessarily "finish" a server off like some sort of second-rate day laborers, but rather get key things started and facilitate the native server's staff's ability to finish it themselves (as directed and agreed upon by the server manager). More servers would receive quality help in a shorter period of time this way (strength in numbers) in the first place. Waiting until it is one's own turn is not a new concept.

i agree, and i think that's what most others mean when they say that the GDT should work on things that apply for everyone. having standards for the current three types of servers (like pre-established scripts, documentation, etc.) would be useful in getting more content off the ground

another other option would be to advance the current main 3 servers and bring them closer to a maxim of game play (ones i would hope would be chosen more by the players) which could then be translated into UC servers for the pre-established standards. a similar option would be to help along the UC servers in some sort of first-come-first-serve basis so that some new content could come out, creating new standards or medium to create those standards