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12171217 12-19-2009 05:36 AM

Where do the rights to head/bodies lay?
 
I mean, many of them are not created by Cyberjourers, they're created by the players. Where are rights held? If they were to be used in other projects, would it be a violation of some copyright?

cbk1994 12-19-2009 06:07 AM

They probably belong to CJ by the "if you upload it, it's ours" policy.

Loriel 12-19-2009 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12171217 (Post 1545530)
If they were to be used in other projects, would it be a violation of some copyright?

By you? Definitely.

Imperialistic 12-19-2009 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel (Post 1545537)
By you? Definitely.

LOL irl

Dnegel 12-19-2009 05:09 PM

Zelda a Link to the Past, the noob body is like Link's body in the game. And the head is about 70 % like Link's head, only the hat is missing.

12171217 12-19-2009 05:46 PM

So if I were to upload a copyrighted head, it's no longer my problem, but Cyberjourers? At least by the "if you upload it it's ours" policy, heh.

Elk 12-19-2009 06:19 PM

It would be your problem, because you would have infringed against the copyright

fowlplay4 12-19-2009 06:48 PM

Since we're talking about rights.

Note that anything uploaded onto a server, becomes that server's property too, even if it's never used. Which is pretty ridiculous.

DustyPorViva 12-19-2009 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1545597)
Since we're talking about rights.

Note that anything uploaded onto a server, becomes that server's property too, even if it's never used. Which is pretty ridiculous.

Why? Don't work on a server if you don't intend for your stuff to belong to them. Without such precaution anyone could just quit and take all their work with them(for servers like Zodiac and Era, this could cripple the server depending on what the person made).

I've made plenty of things for servers that never saw the light of day, and while it's depressing... oh well.

12171217 12-19-2009 07:16 PM

If this applies to Testbed, then several servers that tested their scripts on Testbed first could be screwed if anyone actually gave a ****.

DustyPorViva 12-19-2009 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 12171217 (Post 1545601)
If this applies to Testbed, then several servers that tested their scripts on Testbed first could be screwed if anyone actually gave a ****.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't :P

fowlplay4 12-19-2009 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1545598)
Why? Don't work on a server if you don't intend for your stuff to belong to them. Without such precaution anyone could just quit and take all their work with them(for servers like Zodiac and Era, this could cripple the server depending on what the person made).

Which is exactly what happened lol, but the graphics weren't crippling at all to said server (in fact they need to worry about other things) and it was only really done to spite our new GAT members, and that server hasn't been using their graphics for months so to play the ownership card like that is pretty lame.

Darklux 12-19-2009 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1545533)
They probably belong to CJ by the "if you upload it, it's ours" policy.

Probaply! The usage conditions are probaply null and void - due to this passage - as you don't grant usage rights but give away your property.
And code of conducts mustn't be contradictory to valid law, but as long as noone puts them in question (in terms of a lawsuit, and I highly doubt anybody would start one), they are valid for graal.

But even if the right to gfx would be on the player side, would be hard to find copyright owners. There are so many slight modifications and recolors out.

=> It's CJ's!

Elk 12-19-2009 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1545597)
Since we're talking about rights.

Note that anything uploaded onto a server, becomes that server's property too, even if it's never used. Which is pretty ridiculous.

It's easy to break that copyright if Stefan thinks that it's a good decision for the specific image to be on another server fitting better

Darklux 12-19-2009 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1545619)
It's easy to break that copyright if Stefan thinks that it's a good decision for the specific image to be on another server fitting better

I think there are mainly other reasons behind these rules. It's about CJ having the right to digitally distribute the content at all, if they wouldn't have the rights or atleast usage rights, it could be illegal to let players on that content.
Afaik, most big online platforms have these kind of rules.


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