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Milkdude99 09-09-2001 12:52 AM

Where is Graal Headed?
 
In what direction is Graal headed? Seems alot of abuse is going on ,on many different levels.Being able to make a Player World with really good levels and scripting is just not enough.Managing it will have to be a major part of it.Complaints from players will always be here,most are unfounded because the evidence is ,well at best can be good or just edited to prove a case.Most kids on here are not stupid and know how to manipulate information to look like something else.They can constantly harrass or cuss or do whatever they want in a way that is almost impossible to gather evidence for,where do you draw the line?Do nothing for they have a P2P account and they pay? Well I have paid for 4 such accounts does that mean I can never be thrown off?Evidence like a PM can be edited , screenshots can prove very little since it cannot prove who said it.Most of the time a PM can be detected if it has been edited,but most smart players (like Ex-Staff)know not to do this in a PM .So where do you draw the line?
In order to get this game to be a Money maker as I think that is what Stefan and Unixmad are trying to do ,you will lose some that their only desire is to disrupt the game ,but instead gain people who just want to play and pay for a good quailty game without all the hassles we have now . And I am sorry to say this will not be accomplished with 14 and 15 year olds managing a Player World,because they cannot even manage their own life yet,much less a Playerworld with all the problems you face with it.
Yet we do have some that seem to do a fairly good job and I applaude them for they are the exception to the rule.It is at this point I think things need to be revised for if you bend over backward so much for a player that a Player World cannot be managed in a way for the Good honest Players to be able to play the game then the game suffers, warnings after warnings does nothing but frustate Staff and make honest players mad.It creates stess on everyone on the game and that is not good at all.Owners of Player Worlds need to have a age minium and rights to run them within certain guidelines but be able to set some own server rules within them.

hendelbroadaxe 09-09-2001 01:17 AM

and mainly your so called good honest players are your back stabers that liek to kiss ass and tell you what you want to hear. i have been lied on time after time by your so called good players and managed player worlds hahaha what a laugh.

you have kids managing player worlds when i say kids i mean 13 14 years old and they don't know what in the hell there doing.

but your so called good players nah that's over rated even laughable they'll screw you so quick it'll make your head spin all they are is a bunch of cut throats.

you want a good pw hire honest staff you want people to stay on a pw keep them interested and i don't mean events events suck and more than likely the staff best friends win. for example mr bear done a event on classic i was the second person to make it to the spot he said to come too then after about 10 seconds this other guy runs up ok that's cool i'm second i get something. nope it was his friend same with the first guy there. so i got screwed on that event.

but as for staff you want good staff answer people's questions even the one's in jail. i've sat in jail before on a server for almost a month because the staff were ****s i would get on for a hour and ask every rc the same thing. could you let me out of jail i've been in here for almost a month. same response which was no response at all.

talk about graal being ruined by players nah by jack legs like you is what ruins it.

TrueHeaT 09-09-2001 01:23 AM

uhh... all I have to say is ha ha ha.. this was a total waste of time and energy.

Jerom 09-09-2001 01:26 AM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT
uhh... all I have to say is ha ha ha.. this was a total waste of time and energy.
I wish I could somehow shrink all my quotes to make room for more great statements like that one.

fugitive316 09-09-2001 02:39 AM

I know people 5 years younger than me, that are more mature than me. I also know people 10 years older than me, that act more immature than me.

Milkdude99 09-09-2001 04:36 AM

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Originally posted by hendelbroadaxe
and mainly your so called good honest players are your back stabers that liek to kiss ass and tell you what you want to hear. i have been lied on time after time by your so called good players and managed player worlds hahaha what a laugh.

you have kids managing player worlds when i say kids i mean 13 14 years old and they don't know what in the hell there doing.

but your so called good players nah that's over rated even laughable they'll screw you so quick it'll make your head spin all they are is a bunch of cut throats.

you want a good pw hire honest staff you want people to stay on a pw keep them interested and i don't mean events events suck and more than likely the staff best friends win. for example mr bear done a event on classic i was the second person to make it to the spot he said to come too then after about 10 seconds this other guy runs up ok that's cool i'm second i get something. nope it was his friend same with the first guy there. so i got screwed on that event.

but as for staff you want good staff answer people's questions even the one's in jail. i've sat in jail before on a server for almost a month because the staff were ****s i would get on for a hour and ask every rc the same thing. could you let me out of jail i've been in here for almost a month. same response which was no response at all.

talk about graal being ruined by players nah by jack legs like you is what ruins it.

I checked your account and you hacked the jump rope , but you will be released 10/7/01
If you check the rules you can be banned permanently for that.

SkooL 09-09-2001 04:55 AM

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Originally posted by Milkdude99
I checked your account and you hacked the jump rope , but you will be released 10/7/01
If you check the rules you can be banned permanently for that.

Oh yes, the jump rope is such a weapon of mass destruction.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 09-09-2001 05:12 AM

I stopped reading when I didn't have a place to pause (no period)

zokemon 09-09-2001 05:16 AM

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Originally posted by TrueHeaT
uhh... all I have to say is ha ha ha.. this was a total waste of time and energy.
ya... i agree

hendelbroadaxe 09-09-2001 12:18 PM

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Originally posted by SkooL
Oh yes, the jump rope is such a weapon of mass destruction.
that's what i'm screaming.

lol yeah a month which i don't care about that account or the others i have more.

but come on a jump rope hahaha you have a problem with me jump roping?

my character needed some excersize from not having anything to do on your server so i figured before he got fat and lazy i would make him jump rope some before he died of boredom.

slp 09-09-2001 01:30 PM

i think graal is getting boring cause of the staff, and i used to be come on frol quests and to talk to people, and now its really nothing to me anymore, i would love to get done with frolic but witout help it gets hard (well not as much hard as longer).

but yes graal is getting full a really idiotic people as well as new people wich is cool but not all the time.

hendelbroadaxe 09-09-2001 11:32 PM

if nemesis goes up and everything gets done for a while and nothing needs to be done for a while, i'll help you out my best attribute is staff management.

i like being a lat but level building gets tiresome and liek you've said graal has been getting boring i consider nemesis my saving grace to graal for me. i'm sure a lot of you will agree with me what would you do without something you love doing. nemesis has kept me going and playing graal, why because i enjoy the thought of people playing in a level or doing something i made or added or having someone tell me everything looks great and they enjoy it.

that's what i believe a pw should be like. fun and enjoyment plenty of stuff to do and have staff that care about your problems and questions you have. That's what i'm hoping nemesis will become andd be the best damn server up and running with the best enjoyment to the player and best staff for the players. Why can't we bring back the old graal even though it's the new graal?

I believe we as one can accomplish that it may take some time and a lot of work from everyone on graal but it can happen.

i don't like the managed pw idea managed in what way by restriction what players can do? like pking why restrict people from pking that's just what people have always done for enjoyment and to give them something to do.

Why not give players that help other players out rewards like player of the month. they get a npcw that nobody has but they earned the right to have it.

encourage players to do right and enjoy thereselves don't put limitations on them. your only going to get players that you don't want that you complain about all the time.

why do i hack meaningless crap because i'm bored and interested in how it works, but do i do damage to the server by bush hacking no not really and if you asked me to quit i would glady do it. I've only been asked once to quit on classic by one gp and i was hacking the jump rope. he gave me a warning asking me to quit. he said that there was no problem with it since it didn't hurt anything, but the problm with it was everyone was asking for it and mad that they couldn't get it because it was hacked.

after my first warning i turned everything off but forgot that i had to change it back to idle so i logged off and reconnected. He put me in jail but i explained what had happened that i had to reconnect because i forgot to change it back to idle and he let me out and i didn't hack it again. why? because he asked me not too.

that's why i think it was silly for you to ban me for a month you didn't even bother asking me to quit which i would have lol think before you leap.

but that is a awesome example of what i would like to see in all staff and have all staff do liek he did he was fai and just by asking me hey it's not hurting anything but it's not fair to the other players so i quit because he reasoned with me and made sense.

why do you get hackers on your servers time after time again because you treat them like there **** and you as a staff member and player don't need to waste your time on them, but i beat 75% of the time if you ask them to quit like he did to me they will respect that you asked them and probably will quit if not give them one more warning and then jail them but be nice the wole time your doing this.

this one lonely staff on classic is what i want to achieve in nemesis and wish would happen all over graal. which would make graal the way it should be staff and player interaction.

i truely hope we when i say we i mean all the staff on nemesis achieve this but it'll be a shame that all pw's can't achieve this. I beat you'll say that it can't be achieved i seen that it could be when that staff on classic did like he did. very professional and fair and just at the same time. How can you not achieve this?

EFX 09-09-2001 11:38 PM

even though i am only 16 and still a growing child, i agree to an extent. i'm supporting the future of graal! graal has potential, it just needs something to turn the wheels and motivate the players as well as staff. a mini-golf course or bomy won't do it... *sigh*

i have been here for awhile and learned a lot, the only reason i play graal is because i have spent a lot of time and effort on the game and want something to show for. maybe i'm just losing it?

Milkdude99 09-10-2001 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SkooL
Oh yes, the jump rope is such a weapon of mass destruction.
Errrrr its illegal on all free servers. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :megaeek:

09-10-2001 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by fugitive316
I know people 5 years younger than me, that are more mature than me. I also know people 10 years older than me, that act more immature than me.
and how old are you?

09-10-2001 01:32 AM

+ I am not going to read all that stuff..
that makes graal boring..:asleep:

General 09-10-2001 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Milkdude99
I checked your account and you hacked the jump rope , but you will be released 10/7/01
If you check the rules you can be banned permanently for that.

he didn't hack the jumprope, he modified the memory so "idle" was "skip"

hendelbroadaxe 09-10-2001 02:58 AM

so see i wasn't hacking hahahah try doing it with dive people are like wtf is going on. :) mad funny.

vovavziggy 09-11-2001 12:55 AM

I heard graal is headed right up my big fat curvy yellow.......:rolleyes:

Short_Blade 09-14-2001 07:05 AM

I dis-agree a 14 year old can be really mature and responsible. But the PW owners all are immature besides a certain few

Milkdude99 09-17-2001 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by Short_Blade
I dis-agree a 14 year old can be really mature and responsible. But the PW owners all are immature besides a certain few
errrrrr try reading ALL I said . :rolleyes:

Milkdude99 09-17-2001 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by hendelbroadaxe
and mainly your so called good honest players are your back stabers that liek to kiss ass and tell you what you want to hear. i have been lied on time after time by your so called good players and managed player worlds hahaha what a laugh.

you have kids managing player worlds when i say kids i mean 13 14 years old and they don't know what in the hell there doing.

but your so called good players nah that's over rated even laughable they'll screw you so quick it'll make your head spin all they are is a bunch of cut throats.

you want a good pw hire honest staff you want people to stay on a pw keep them interested and i don't mean events events suck and more than likely the staff best friends win. for example mr bear done a event on classic i was the second person to make it to the spot he said to come too then after about 10 seconds this other guy runs up ok that's cool i'm second i get something. nope it was his friend same with the first guy there. so i got screwed on that event.

but as for staff you want good staff answer people's questions even the one's in jail. i've sat in jail before on a server for almost a month because the staff were ****s i would get on for a hour and ask every rc the same thing. could you let me out of jail i've been in here for almost a month. same response which was no response at all.

talk about graal being ruined by players nah by jack legs like you is what ruins it.

hmmmp no more like hackers like you! Your sig says it all ! Since it is that site that promotes and gives out Trainers. :grrr: :megaeek: :grrr:


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