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feivel 08-08-2001 07:23 PM

More Wearable Objects!
 
Ok now thta hats have been added people are making helmets and masks, but I think we need something like hats but armor,
doesnt nescessarily have to actually help defend you but it would look cool. SO finally peeps with certain heads that want that sheathe on their back with the shoulderpiece could have it,
people could wear baddy armor and all different types of armor.
now I know peeps can make an armor body but that sucks becuase you can only have certain colors etc,
if people could make armor that worked like hats it would be much cooler graphically, maybe even physically.
If it cost alot of money from the shop then I guess it could have some added features,
maybe if you get hit on the sized from the bow it blocks it,
or if you get hit head on with a sword it blocks it a few time sbefore it hurts.
I think htis would be realistic ocnsidering you cant block sword attacks with your shield, and usually in sword fihgts like that people dont get hit in the chest and die becuase they block with their own sword/shield/armor
and really its the hits on the sides and back that kill them,
so the armor should be able to take a certain amount of hits before you get hurt, but like if you get hit....
but dont get hit again for a certain amount of time then lets say it was 2 hits before it hurt,
if someone hit you once,
and then 5 minutes later no one had hit you again,
then the two hits would have to start over again,
maybe armor wont be sold but has to be forged and sold by players or somehtin,
and there oculd be different skins and such,
I think this would be a good idea for kingdomlands if anything,
becuase it will get too out of control for non-RP perposes,
with everyone wearing armor and running around thinking their invincible, will just end up being another newbie tactic,
put on armor tun up and hit someone, doesnt hurt you when htey hit you once, run and hide in water, it will only be good for RP purposes for kingdomlands,
where you rhaving big RP battles and people arent gonna run and pause after hitting you and when you hit them back once it doesnt hurt them.
Also for kingdoms we need flags,
maybe work like the torch like you walk and hold it but duh its a flag, and it waves but only certain peeps can have it,
like not everyone in hte kingdom cus then everyone will run aorund with a flag and it will lagy and unrelaistic,
but only certain people in the guild designated as flag bearers will get it. And for kingdomlands I think a neat little npcw would be a stats one. The first tme you enter yo get to choose stats.
You have a certain amount of points to alot to,
strength, health, defense, and courage

Strength is obvious,
its how powerful you can do something,
so if you are very strong a certain weapon will have plus power becuase of hoe hard you swing it, health is how much leath you have, its how much damage you can sustain before dying, defense is how good you are at blocking hits. Depending on how good you are the NPC will decide whether or not a hit you recieved actually hurt you or if it was blocked.
Now I dont know if this is a good one but courage,
like if you are very cowardly if their is a big battle and lotsa people die, the NPC mihgt make you freeze in your tracks,
or it may even make you run away. It decides all this with percentages of a chance that you will run away, block, freeze etc...
I think this would be very cool,
but ofcourse in kingdomlands we would need health not depending on quests etc but on the health we chose. And were gonna need alot becuase like i said if you could have strength, all weapons would have a mnimum damage dealed,
but depending on how strong you are it would have = damage,
I know peeps would die quicker but its more realistic where you are able to be dead from 3 or 4 blows,
rather then like 10. Now I know peeps are gonna say then why dont we make the max. hearts three. The reason is since all weapons deal a minimum damage of .5 a heart,
we might wanna make a very weak weapon,
and if you max hearts was 3 then the weakest weapon would take away a major part of your health.
So with alot of health we are able to make very strong and very weak weapons. Hope everyone lieks my ideas :)

waar 08-08-2001 07:28 PM

edible underwear.

Slaktmaster 08-08-2001 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by waar
edible underwear.
<3

feivel 08-08-2001 08:42 PM

Come on peeps,
you know you want to say I had great ideas and then add more ideas, so dont just sit there read, reply, repeat
*watches supid peeps get stuck in endless cycle*
and please dont post redicilous things such as edible underwear,
this thread is supposed to be for ideas and such for things to make kingdomlands interesting, and for stuff that makes graal more interestng. i.e. your great opinions about my ideas, and the addition of your own ideas

SaiyanSaviour 08-08-2001 08:45 PM

It sounds like you want to change it from the main concept of Zelda to DiabloII or Baulder's Gate.

Archeon 08-08-2001 08:47 PM

wearable objects are a waste of bytes and gralat

armor can be made in a body##.png format and then would be FREE

please dont post stupid ideas here, they belong in Future Improvements if you must post this stupid stuff that has been discussed before

waar 08-08-2001 08:47 PM

ok, you want armor and stuff like that, when you can change your head at will. you will have to buy and trade for armor and the like, while you can get a sex change with the typing of a phrase.

Archeon 08-08-2001 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by waar
ok, you want armor and stuff like that, when you can change your head at will. you will have to buy and trade for armor and the like, while you can get a sex change with the typing of a phrase.
we need strap-on things..for those unable to have a sex change (your mother.)

waar 08-08-2001 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Archeon


we need strap-on things..for those unable to have a sex change (your mother.)

YOUR MOTHER

LOL

feivel 08-08-2001 09:42 PM

First of all these ideas were for RP purposes,
mainly for kingdomlands,
and Im not trying to turn it into baldurs gate,
all I wanted was some frickin armor etc...
and I already discussed why armor rather then a armored body so unless you have something usefll to say rather then your un-wanted nonsense please refrain from posting. No one ever posts in future improvements so I figured this would be a better place to discuss it. Also this is a suggestion and a discussion and if i posted it in Future Improvements the chances of it getting more then like 2 replies are very slim. And I know its supposed to be like zelda, and zelda could have worn armor. Alot of the enemies had armor, and remember the whole point of Graal is its ability for many new things to be added, if we just sat here being exactly like zelda it wouldnt be that exciting! This way rather then being exactly like link, you have the ability to become anyone in a world such as his. As I can garuntee that some people did wear armor.
Also as I stated this for for kingdomlands,
a RPing section for kingdoms,
so if you are not in a kingdom,
dont plan on being in a kingdom,
and have nothing useful to say here then shut the heck up!

SaiyanSaviour 08-08-2001 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by feivel
First of all these ideas were for RP purposes,
mainly for kingdomlands,
and Im not trying to turn it into baldurs gate,
all I wanted was some frickin armor etc...
and I already discussed why armor rather then a armored body so unless you have something usefll to say rather then your un-wanted nonsense please refrain from posting. No one ever posts in future improvements so I figured this would be a better place to discuss it. Also this is a suggestion and a discussion and if i posted it in Future Improvements the chances of it getting more then like 2 replies are very slim. And I know its supposed to be like zelda, and zelda could have worn armor. Alot of the enemies had armor, and remember the whole point of Graal is its ability for many new things to be added, if we just sat here being exactly like zelda it wouldnt be that exciting! This way rather then being exactly like link, you have the ability to become anyone in a world such as his. As I can garuntee that some people did wear armor.
Also as I stated this for for kingdomlands,
a RPing section for kingdoms,
so if you are not in a kingdom,
dont plan on being in a kingdom,
and have nothing useful to say here then shut the heck up!

But it we added tht armor feature in then there would have to be a lot of changes to the servers and the game itself.

feivel 08-08-2001 09:58 PM

[QUOTE]But it we added tht armor feature in then there would have to be a lot of changes to the servers and the game itself. [/QOUTE]


Um....
ok specify what changes would have to be made to the game and all the servers....
First of all not all the servers,
second of all when you say to the game to you mean as in its coding like in the actual graal file or do you mean like the way the game is run. Like limiting stuff etc...

Fai 08-08-2001 10:33 PM

Graal doesn't need any more ornaments. We are not christmas trees.

SaiyanSaviour 08-08-2001 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fai
Graal doesn't need any more ornaments. We are not christmas trees.
Just stick with this quote, what he said is was im trying to get out. Now listen to Fai!

Asmodeus-James 08-08-2001 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fai
Graal doesn't need any more ornaments. We are not christmas trees.
FAI MAYBE THEY CAN PUT YOUR ELITE BOOM-BOX UP. AND WE CAN CARRY IT AROUND AND LISTEN TO MUSIC!

Fai 08-08-2001 11:41 PM

B00MBOX HAT

feivel 08-08-2001 11:52 PM

Its not only an arnament,
it has a use!!!!!!!!!!!
its for RPing purposes for kingdomlands,
I mean most soldiers and knights and stuff wore armor,
it also adds more to the game,
not just useless more,
but dang whats the word...
it makes the game more interesting and fun,
I know some peeps will disagree with the armor thing,
and I will admit it has its plusses and minuses, maybe its a good idea or maybe it sucks, its all about opinion. It also like people said might ccause lag...
but as Stefan said if kingdomlands gets big and stuff it will be its own individual server with a direct portal from g2k1 or soemthing,
so if it was all delagged and stuff it would be cool!
Besides I think it adds to the effect of the character.
I mean yeah you could use an armor body but not all them armor bodies are that great, in my opinion body3.png sucks,
and actualy armor that you could put on would be much cooler,
also different people could be wearing different types of armor,
a kingdom might have its special armor with a symbol or unique design rather then just body3.png which is blah,
also since they would all be different skins they could contain more colors then just the ones you can have on a body. Also you wouldnt have to sacrifice having your hand be red just so a different special part of the body was red etc...
also please comment on my other ideas!

Asmodeus-James 08-08-2001 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fai
B00MBOX HAT
BEER HAT!

Fai 08-08-2001 11:55 PM

Quote:

Its not only an arnament,
it has a use!!!!!!!!!!!
its for RPing purposes for kingdomlands,
I mean most soldiers and knights and stuff wore armor,
it also adds more to the game,
not just useless more,
but dang whats the word...
it makes the game more interesting and fun,
I know some peeps will disagree with the armor thing,
and I will admit it has its plusses and minuses, maybe its a good idea or maybe it sucks, its all about opinion. It also like people said might ccause lag...
but as Stefan said if kingdomlands gets big and stuff it will be its own individual server with a direct portal from g2k1 or soemthing,
so if it was all delagged and stuff it would be cool!
Besides I think it adds to the effect of the character.
I mean yeah you could use an armor body but not all them armor bodies are that great, in my opinion body3.png sucks,
and actualy armor that you could put on would be much cooler,
also different people could be wearing different types of armor,
a kingdom might have its special armor with a symbol or unique design rather then just body3.png which is blah,
also since they would all be different skins they could contain more colors then just the ones you can have on a body. Also you wouldnt have to sacrifice having your hand be red just so a different special part of the body was red etc...
also please comment on my other ideas!
Please.. We don't need more pointless fads like hats and pet bomies taking over Graal. It is not fun for people who don't care about things like that.

Asmodeus-James 08-08-2001 11:57 PM

Stefan should add a quest for a level2 glove or something.

Fai 08-08-2001 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Asmodeus-James
Stefan should add a quest for a level2 glove or something.
YES
Graal2001 needs quests :( And some kind of plot. Right now the plot is: beat each other with hats and steal gralats from people and become a Police/ET/FAQ and win the game.

Asmodeus-James 08-09-2001 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fai


YES
Graal2001 needs quests :( And some kind of plot. Right now the plot is: beat each other with hats and steal gralats from people and become a Police/ET/FAQ and win the game.

Yes, I have more fun doing quests than anything else. I think that's what most Graal2001 users want! Fai, heh, you should make one of those beer hats. ;D

Rekad 08-09-2001 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fai


YES
Graal2001 needs quests :( And some kind of plot. Right now the plot is: beat each other with hats and steal gralats from people and become a Police/ET/FAQ and win the game.

YOU FORGOT MINI GOLF WARS

feivel 08-09-2001 12:03 AM

Its not supposed to be a fad!!!!!!!!!!
Its supposed to be for kingdomlands for RPing,
I dont want it to be all over graal,
just in kingdoms and such,
and even if stefan did make it so everyone got it...
oooh that would be so horrible right,
it wouldnt be the same because hopefully you would have to forge it so it wouldnt get sold out and people running around scamming eachother for it,
I mean technicallyt I could say shields are a fad too,
everyone has one, lotsa people make them....
so if we hate fads and such why dont we just all drop our shields and never get them becuase there popular..

Rekad 08-09-2001 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by feivel
Its not supposed to be a fad!!!!!!!!!!
Its supposed to be for kingdomlands for RPing,
I dont want it to be all over graal,
just in kingdoms and such,
and even if stefan did make it so everyone got it...
oooh that would be so horrible right,
it wouldnt be the same because hopefully you would have to forge it so it wouldnt get sold out and people running around scamming eachother for it,
I mean technicallyt I could say shields are a fad too,
everyone has one, lotsa people make them....
so if we hate fads and such why dont we just all drop our shields and never get them becuase there popular..

you are an idiot, why dont you just make an NPC that changes your body to one of the armor looking things, and shields cant be a fad, fads are spur of the moment things that die down after a couple of weeks/months, and shields have been around since almost the beginning of graal.

feivel 08-09-2001 12:38 AM

The whole point of the armor is for it to cover your body,
that way there can be armor with a certain shape and it doesnt completely envelop you,
and you could see the body under it,
never mind,
no one understand a thing,
and Im not an idiot just becuase your opinions are different then mine, and a fad doesnt have to be spurr of the moment,
when lotsa people see something they like and it becomes a fad,
it wasnt invented, sold, and "fad-ified" on the spur of a moment,
whatever it is was planned for awhile,
and then lotsa people bought it,
and not everyone buys something on the spurr of the moment,
people think about things and then buy it becuase they like it...
or becuase other people like it so it makes them like it...
and it was just a frickin example I was being sarcastic I dont really think shields are a fad, and armor could end up jut like shield, used frequently not just for a week and then people throw it out, and like I said this was not meant to be for everyone as a toy, it was meant for Kingdom lands as I have said many times for kingdom battles and the like,
if we made special armor bodies that when you use the npc it switches to that, everyone would look exactly the same, while as when you have armor over you body part of the body are able to show. You know we could criticize almost anything that anyone made. We could say why make something new if something else already does that or theres another way of doing it. If we did that all the time in games and in real life, half the things we have wouldnt exist. We need to advance and make new stuff rather then sit here with the same stuff forever. And most of all its called fun, hey you dont like armor you dont have to get it, but others might find it enjoyable

G_yoshi 08-09-2001 12:45 AM

While it all sounds nice, it would become another money thing like the hats and instruments are. I get tired of reading mass messages about people selling hats/masks.

Graal2001 has become a place for mini-games and getting power. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy playing on Graal2001, its just that is gets bothersome to see this. And, yes, I know that I can turn off mass messages and toalls, but there may be something important that I don't want to miss.

That is kinda 1 reason I am doing my PW.

Rekad 08-09-2001 12:48 AM

Quote:

fad \"fad\ n : a practice or interest followed for a time with exaggerated zeal : craze — fad•dish adj — fad•dist n

(c)2000 Zane Publishing, Inc. and Merriam-Webster, Incorporated. All rights reserved.
shields are not a fad, and your idea is a stupid lag causer.

feivel 08-09-2001 12:48 AM

But like I said being as it is for kingdomlands it wont become a money thing with mass message becuase it will have to be forged, whether certain people in your kingdoms have a special job of making for everyone or you make it yourself,
it wont be a money thing and a fad becuase it will be for kingdom lands

NooseKnot 08-09-2001 12:52 AM

What we need is a giant beer bong and that boom box so we can be 1337 just like fai and we need to be able to have pet monkeys...
that is my contribution to this subject

Rekad 08-09-2001 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by feivel
But like I said being as it is for kingdomlands it wont become a money thing with mass message becuase it will have to be forged, whether certain people in your kingdoms have a special job of making for everyone or you make it yourself,
it wont be a money thing and a fad becuase it will be for kingdom lands

we dont need more things to RP with, the more things we add the worse it gets.

konidias 08-09-2001 01:09 AM

Feivel, are you going to cry? You seem pretty worked up over this seeing as how most every post you make here is like 10000 characters long :D

Ummm I could care less if there was armor.. I just don't want it affecting gameplay because I truly hate RPing on graal because it gets old and boring. Although I like quests, events, and working for monees :D

feivel 08-09-2001 01:43 AM

Im not gonna cry...
I just get very whats the word...
um...
passionate lol not exactly but um..
when Im involved in arguments,
everyone I know knows that I argue if I think im right lol,
but anyway It was just an idea didnt think people would make fun of me for an idea I mean come on..
and just to say something to Sisok who said the more we add for RPing the worse it becomes.... I dont believe that is completely true, for instance lets say there was an NPC with lots of different ganis to be used for different situations. like a gani for being like mugged by theives like with the hands up, and a gani for being injured etc....
I would rather be able to see my character graphically limping or crawling or with his hands up then type *is bleeding to death*
*has hands up* That doesnt ruin RPing,
you can RP without typing in your actions,
RPing is about the situations and the drama and the speech,
if you cant RP without typing in your actions then what your reallydoing isnt RPing becuase theres no plot in constantly typing your hurt or scared, obviously we cant graphically emulate everyhting so you could type your emotion etc...
but adding stuff doesnt ruin it. And I still think the armor would be a neat addition as long as it was kept from becoming like hats and bomies, and if it became like hats and bomies then make it so you get it somehow and make it so everyone could get it,
but then ofcourse it would defeat the purpose cus it would just make fighting take longer f everyone has armor,
which is why it should be only in kingdomlands where the armor would be just a part of strength and weaknesses where depending on what your kingdom does different armor could be obtained etc...
now please unless you have anything new to say dont say anything, Id rather hear opinions about toehr stuff and ideas rather then constan agument about armor

G_yoshi 08-09-2001 01:53 AM

RPing on Graal2001 = pkfests. And I know that if something like "armor" was added to graal2001, it would become just like hats. There is no need for it. It will cause more trouble than you think and it will just add to the list of stuff to scam people with. Something like this is the last thing Graal2001 needs.

SaiyanSaviour 08-09-2001 01:57 AM

He just wants more people to stay up and loose hours of sleep. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

feivel 08-09-2001 01:58 AM

On numerous occasions..
mainly everytime I have posted in this thread I have stated that this is intended for kingdomlands, kingdomlands is *ghasp* a RPing enviroment for kingdoms seperated from regualr graal which is full of scamming n00bs!
Now tell me,
how is this going to become troublesome and make PKing happen more, and more scamming if...
no one can get it unless you are in kingdom lands,
and when you go back to graal you wont have it anymore.
I mean who are you going to scam...
someone from another kingdom who most likely would have their own armor or could get their own armor becuase it isnt in a shop that gets sold out it is forged from metal....

SaiyanSaviour 08-09-2001 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by feivel
On numerous occasions..
mainly everytime I have posted in this thread I have stated that this is intended for kingdomlands, kingdomlands is *ghasp* a RPing enviroment for kingdoms seperated from regualr graal which is full of scamming n00bs!
Now tell me,
how is this going to become troublesome and make PKing happen more, and more scamming if...
no one can get it unless you are in kingdom lands,
and when you go back to graal you wont have it anymore.
I mean who are you going to scam...
someone from another kingdom who most likely would have their own armor or could get their own armor becuase it isnt in a shop that gets sold out it is forged from metal....

Why are you chnaging Graal to something it isn't? This is not DiabloII, Graal and DiabloII differ a long way.

G_yoshi 08-09-2001 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by feivel
On numerous occasions..
mainly everytime I have posted in this thread I have stated that this is intended for kingdomlands, kingdomlands is *ghasp* a RPing enviroment for kingdoms seperated from regualr graal which is full of scamming n00bs!
Now tell me,
how is this going to become troublesome and make PKing happen more, and more scamming if...
no one can get it unless you are in kingdom lands,
and when you go back to graal you wont have it anymore.
I mean who are you going to scam...
someone from another kingdom who most likely would have their own armor or could get their own armor becuase it isnt in a shop that gets sold out it is forged from metal....

I am just making a wild guess, but I imagine the kingdoms lands will be available to all players, whether or not they RP. Which means that some of them can go in and continue scamming. I still say that it is unneeded and that it will only hurt instead of help.

feivel 08-09-2001 02:23 AM

Um hence the name kingdomlands will most likely be open only to people *ghasp* in kingdoms....
and you would be a ***** for scamming your own team becuase most likely the gelat you have in kingdomlands will nto affect your amount of gralat out of kingdomlands, and probly no one in another kingdom would buy from someone not in their own kingdom becuase they could get scammed and it would be safer to get one from your own kingdom.

G_yoshi 08-09-2001 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by feivel
Um hence the name kingdomlands will most likely be open only to people *ghasp* in kingdoms....
and you would be a ***** for scamming your own team becuase most likely the gelat you have in kingdomlands will nto affect your amount of gralat out of kingdomlands, and probly no one in another kingdom would buy from someone not in their own kingdom becuase they could get scammed and it would be safer to get one from your own kingdom.

*sigh* just because the kingdom lands are on a PW port does not mean that people still wont do it. Also, you are implying that the name is sctrictly for those in kingdoms. Well, stop assuming what you do not know. Not everyone that RPs is or has to be in a kingdom. Making that kind of restriction is ridiculous.


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