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Deophite18 08-24-2009 02:01 PM

Why aren't girls as good at sparring?
 
A legitimate question IMO. Are boys inherently good at button mashing? Do they simply try harder? Why is there never a female that can compete with a top tier male sparrer? (Lag doesn't count) I am also aware of the girl/guy ratio on Graal. However, I still see a lot of girls competing in tournaments and in Town Center on UN. I have a hard time remembering more than one girl that could compete at the level of a top male sparrer. Your thoughts? :p

Nataxo 08-24-2009 02:03 PM

Spar. Now.

LordSquirt 08-24-2009 02:06 PM

First, I would like to say no offense to girls if this offends them.

From my own experiences with gaming I would have to agree with Deophite. I don't really find too much competition from the female players, however, I would say it's like that for most games. I play a lot of FPS games and I would have to say it's pretty much the same in which the male players are better.

It could just be that the males get more into the game or have faster reflexes imo. Whatever the case I usually have more of a challenge against males.

xnervNATx 08-24-2009 02:55 PM

like me you know graal is not popular at all, that why. but if u mean only UN you should take into consideration the hd(range, foot play,reflex)

DustyPorViva 08-24-2009 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by xnervNATx (Post 1518131)
foot play

hehe

Elizabeth 08-24-2009 03:13 PM

there are no girls on the internet

Frankie 08-24-2009 03:27 PM

it's pretty hott when a girl stomps you in a spar.

papajchris 08-24-2009 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1518125)
I play a lot of FPS games and I would have to say it's pretty much the same in which the male players are better.

Theres the frag dolls, an all female gamer team!

Luda 08-24-2009 04:49 PM

i thought laura was a man

Darlene159 08-24-2009 04:52 PM

Probably because guys care more, and hurts their ego to get beat.....by anyone, so they try harder.

CABAL49 08-24-2009 07:01 PM

Not a lot of women Graal, or really play fps. If you are into rts you will find some ladies who are actually really good. But online gaming is still male dominated. A sausage fest if you will.

cbk1994 08-24-2009 09:49 PM

Rule 30.

jorollychu 08-24-2009 09:58 PM

they just arent skilled at much

LoneAngelIbesu 08-24-2009 10:01 PM

Girls hands are, for the most part, small. This is dictated largely by genetics. Because their hands are small, the bones and ligaments are inherently weaker than that of much larger, male hands. So, when engaging the rigorous button-mashing routines of sparring, their fingers naturally tire much quicker than male fingers. This is not to say that women aren't better than men at sparring. It's just to say, much like the differences between a cheetah and, say, a lion -- both strong predators, but lions can run further than cheetahs -- that men can out-button-mash women. If women could stand the pain (but we all know their weak minds prevent them from doing so), I would imagine that they would be just as good as, if not better than, men.

It's all very elementary.

Gambet 08-24-2009 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu (Post 1518221)
Girls hands are, for the most part, small. This is dictated largely by genetics. Because their hands are small, the bones and ligaments are inherently weaker than that of much larger, male hands. So, when engaging the rigorous button-mashing routines of sparring, their fingers naturally tire much quicker than male fingers. This is not to say that women aren't better than men at sparring. It's just to say, much like the differences between a cheetah and, say, a lion -- both strong predators, but lions can run further than cheetahs -- that men can out-button-mash women. If women could stand the pain (but we all know their weak minds prevent them from doing so), I would imagine that they would be just as good as, if not better than, men.

It's all very elementary.


Tell that to Wilhem Kempff and every other musician be they male or female that still played concerts and/or recitals well past the age of 70 (man died at 95).

LoneAngelIbesu 08-24-2009 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambet (Post 1518226)
Tell that to Wilhem Kempff and every other musician be they male or female that still played concerts and/or recitals well past the age of 70 (man died at 95).

Those females are rare exceptions and probably 10% male, anyways. :)

Geno 08-24-2009 11:46 PM

all the girls that spar are really guys anyways. so the question is irrelevant

Draenin 08-25-2009 12:31 AM

Because the badassery of men was forged in the fires of early console games which were all built to destroy you in every way possible.

If you don't believe me, go up to any girl and ask her how to hadouken. If she answers correctly, she is a worthy opponent and you must marry her immediately.

Googi 08-25-2009 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Deophite18 (Post 1518123)
However, I still see a lot of girls competing in tournaments and in Town Center on UN.

I think there's something you should know...

Deophite18 08-25-2009 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1518261)
I think there's something you should know...

I don't find it difficult to spot the real from the fake.

maximus_asinus 08-25-2009 02:40 AM

women are poor sparrers

Rufus 08-25-2009 04:50 PM

Aarian (whatzgoinon) sprung to mind when I read this thread because she is a good sparrer and can compete with most of the "top" sparrers on a global scale. I think Stella (Lacoste) used to be a pretty good sparrer on Unholy Nation too, but now she's got pretty bad lag issues so isn't so good anymore.

Bell 08-25-2009 05:36 PM

Girls don't want to break a nail (or the male ego) while button smashing so they let them win.

Pelikano 08-25-2009 05:40 PM

Someone close this thread!!!

girls don't exist on the internet omg!!!!

MysticX2X 08-25-2009 06:02 PM

Girls can't spar wtf.

Crono 08-25-2009 06:04 PM

Different psychology imo. For example on an MMORPG not allowed to be discussed on the forums, women tend to be more into the whole grinding thing while guys like to PVP.

Soala 08-25-2009 07:28 PM

From my point of view, girls tend to spar way less than boys because they are more looking at things around them. By this, I mean they know how to appreciate things :)

(Oh and they talk much more so...less time to spar lol)

DarkRenji 08-25-2009 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1518161)
Theres the frag dolls, an all female gamer team!

they all suck

Rufus 08-25-2009 07:31 PM

Oh yeah, Bella and Meryl were 'top tier' sparrers too.

Dark_Zeratul101 08-25-2009 07:33 PM

Why do people make stupid threads like this?

Dragonosteel 08-25-2009 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1518355)
Aarian (whatzgoinon) sprung to mind when I read this thread because she is a good sparrer and can compete with most of the "top" sparrers on a global scale. I think Stella (Lacoste) used to be a pretty good sparrer on Unholy Nation too, but now she's got pretty bad lag issues so isn't so good anymore.

Pretty sure Aarian lagged. Stella's good but not that great. She's been playing Graal her entire life so she'd obviously have some skill.. but she's still not as great as the rest of the male oldbies.

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1518391)
Oh yeah, Bella and Meryl were 'top tier' sparrers too.

They had this odd delay (maybe from being from NZ?) that made them somewhat hard to hit while they could hit you easily. The laggers apparently did have some skill in sparring but their lgag helped a ton. Not too legitimate.

Rufus 08-25-2009 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonosteel (Post 1518397)
Pretty sure Aarian lagged. Stella's good but not that great. She's been playing Graal her entire life so she'd obviously have some skill.. but she's still not as great as the rest of the male oldbies.

Aarian doesn't lag for me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonosteel (Post 1518397)
They had this odd delay (maybe from being from NZ?) that made them somewhat hard to hit while they could hit you easily. The laggers apparently did have some skill in sparring but their lgag helped a ton. Not too legitimate.

I'd like to know of some 'top tier' sparrers that are 'legit' in how they spar, because in my opinion most of them are not.

Crono 08-25-2009 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonosteel (Post 1518397)
Pretty sure Aarian lagged. Stella's good but not that great. She's been playing Graal her entire life so she'd obviously have some skill.. but she's still not as great as the rest of the male oldbies.

Aarian lags a little bit but she spars with style. Stella used to be very good back when I remember her from Babylon, and she still is a good sparrer.

Crimson2005 08-25-2009 08:15 PM

Most male Graalians are very experienced playing with their hands.

Deophite18 08-25-2009 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonosteel (Post 1518397)
Pretty sure Aarian lagged. Stella's good but not that great. She's been playing Graal her entire life so she'd obviously have some skill.. but she's still not as great as the rest of the male oldbies.

They had this odd delay (maybe from being from NZ?) that made them somewhat hard to hit while they could hit you easily. The laggers apparently did have some skill in sparring but their lgag helped a ton. Not too legitimate.

I agree, they always had some sort of lag or delay aiding them.
As for Bella and Meryl they are sisters and lived in NZ. They shared the same lag but were still decent sparrers nevertheless. IMO Ni Rain was the best female sparrer I ever saw but shes long gone.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1518398)
I'd like to know of some 'top tier' sparrers that are 'legit' in how they spar, because in my opinion most of them are not.

What do you by mean "legit"?

Hiro 08-25-2009 09:17 PM

most people don't ever really understand the metagame behind sparring, and therefore never get any better at it

and girls don't practice

Luda 08-25-2009 10:29 PM

Colawings is in the top female list.

Nisube 08-25-2009 11:06 PM

Girls aren't as competitive when it comes to video games.
I can smash you any day tho Deo.

Googi 08-26-2009 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deophite18 (Post 1518262)
I don't find it difficult to spot the real from the fake.

I wonder how you know this, given that you'd get a chance to verify your guess only in rare circumstances, if ever.

While we're on the topic, are there any good crossgamers who are good at sparring?

WaDaFack 08-26-2009 01:49 AM

Most girls don't care about gaming or aren't as competitive as guys.
Nowadays, girls just sit back n relax in TC and talk with people.


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