make V5 more like V2
 

i mean this for the players, not for the developers. the developers should have the most up-to-date and recent applications than graal can offer, but players need to have the simplistic version of graal back. V2 always felt right in my opinion, the color scheme it used, combined with the bare essentials for signing in and connecting to a server was awesome. the new client, with it's windows-esque menu's and confusing options to do things that aren't even graal related makes a new comer be overwhelmed, and downright confused. graal need's to adopt more of the K.I.S.S. system - keep it simple stupid

V2 was the best, but it's not going to happen. You know graal.....

Here's an idea.. skin the GUI back to the green form, and try and get it replaced as the default?

If anything V2 was slightly more complex than the current client.

Also I what are these confusing options you speak of.

Oh yeah someone should provide comparison pictures too..

Maybe a new skin to make it look like V2?
But as for features-wise, No, just no, don't even say V2 is better.

The new playerlist is amazing, being able to server-PM people and see all your buddies online, and you can idle on login and get messages without being kicked off.

all i was talking about with options was the weird windows-style menu at the bottom of the screen. it's very annoying and makes things more difficult. i hate having to always minimize it when i accidentally press enter twice

You severely overstate how confusing Graal's UI is... Especially when compared to similar games.

could you explain that in a bit more detail?

v4 or v5 at heart are superior to v2 but the aesthetics need to go back to the v2-v3 era.

V3 was horrible, I openly support a UI Graphics revision to V2.

I didn't mind V3 to much, although it looked horrible it brings back some really old memories. I liked it better back then because I just liked the server tabs. However, I did find the original Graal 3D skin was pretty cool. I actually still might have a Graal 3D News letter somewhere..

I wouldn't mind just going back to v4. I don't recall if that still used the tabs for playerworlds, though; I liked that a lot better than what we have now with the junky-looking Toon style.

v4:

http://graal.net/images/d/d5/Graal_version_4_start.png

v2:

http://graal.net/images/f/fc/Graal_v..._2_2_start.png

(there are some other screenshots here)

It's been a while since I have seen the V2 login screen, it's been about 6 or 7 years now. Also in that link, the V3 3D is the one I probably liked the best.

V4 screen is definitely better than V5, hell if it had some scripted scenes, and so on.. It'd be one sweet login window.

I'm curious as to what login window?

Where you enter your account name and password.

Oh I thought you meant for something else, I honestly don't know what I was thinking.

I can't believe that I have v2, v3 - 3D, v4 and v5 all still on my computer lol. I couldn't get Graal3 to even display with Aero enabled, but of the 4 I have uploaded below, my favourite layout would have to be either v2 or possibly v4.

I like v4, especially since it'll be the easiest to go back to (v4 looks like it uses GUI Controls).

I donno I kinda like this one a lot =]
the background could probably be a bit more flashy but I like the colors and the kewl button xD
http://graal.net/images/f/ff/Graal_version_2_start.png

I like v2&v4, I really don't like the current one.
It's confusing and it doesn't look like it's for graal.

I personally don't like them all.. Why? They are all based on 1 thing (1st/3th GK, 4th nubish, 2nd idk) but Graal has more then one thing, I think there should come a little of every hosted server in the login image cuz that shows what all is here

I agree.

I still have all versions from V2 to v5 on my old hard drive :)

We should go back to the basics.

haha nice

lol yea "stone age graal" ^^

1.41!
Best Version around, before V2 came up......

V2 had server tabs. You could at least say servers were on the classic or hosted tab.

That was awesome.

V4 has been my favorite client so far. I really don't care for the option to be able to use windowsblinds skins in Graal. They look kind of ugly most of the time anyway when used, even if you get custom ones.

v3 did not look horrible, it was probably the best in terms of quality and professionalism.

I think the V5 one they were trying to make "modern", I would totally like to have V4 back. However, if Graal lasts long enough to have a V6, maybe we could improve upon it.


EDIT: Who gave me bad rep for:

make V5 more like V2 07-22-2009 09:40 PM It's probably "been a while" because you've never actually seen it before.

I actually have seen it, and played on it for years probably unlike the person who gave me the bad rep. If you doubt me I have pictures.

i don't see why you have to prove to anyone whether or not you played during a certain period of time on graal. who ****ing cares

also, i agree with crono that V3 looked very good, though i still prefer the V2 screen because it creates the most nostalgia for me. it was, however, the most useless version. the only reason i ever used V3 was that it once glitched your player to be unable to be hit by people using V2 (which was basically everyone playing)

it just seems like graal is to complex for it's own good, and changing the login screen since V2 reflects that. it's uncomfortable and confusing

They gave me bad rep because of it.

But it's really not.. I'm not sure how you find it so uncomfortable and confusing tbh.

It's not really confusing, but it's not very pretty either.

The current login screen doesn't reflect the game very much at all. I guess that's what he means by uncomfortable.

mystic got what i meant by uncomfortable, and confusing in that people i have had try out graal on V5 said it was confusing, as well many players don't really know where stuff is, like the developer tools. one guy i had on a lifetime classic account asked me "why do you input a name on the login when it asks for your email?"

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I admit that it is pure habit to say "Classic tab" and "Hosted Tab" etc for me, but we're not really on tabs right now, just... submenus? lists? But I'm not going to start saying "On the Classic Submenu/List".

Yeah, I kinda miss the tabbed list too. :]

Isn't it possible to skin the v5 GUI to be more like past versions, just that nobody has bothered to do it?