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Exhausted 06-30-2009 02:44 PM

delete npulse/classic and move its good content to UN
 
first off i'd like to note this thread isn't to attack the servers or offend it's players. it presents factual information and well thought out ideas that would benefit players from both servers

the sad thing is, npulse and classic have had questionable progress over the past several years. i know that npulse is working on their new server but from what i've seen it's just not going to compete with zodiac v2 (zodiac has the best dev team on graal atm)..

recently, the only classic server left with active players, which is UN, has been really boring lately.. it's still a fun server with a few nice things to do, but until streety and his developers get done with their large projects, globals should remove classic and n-pulse and let un's staff decide what they want to add to their server to make UN much better.

example: since UN's card game is broken, they can use and improve's classics.

UN can also adopt npulses sharking for another way to add money and maybe use their drilling system... npulse has a lot of cool events and NPCs UN can use to...

summary:
npulse and classic are going no where
since UN is the only classic gameplay server with a shot in hell at keeping itself alive, npulse and classic should be removed and their content should be available to UN's use

maximus_asinus 06-30-2009 02:47 PM

No.

Unkownsoldier 06-30-2009 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhausted (Post 1502991)
zodiac has the best dev team on graal atm

LOL, obviously you haven't visited Delteria Dev. They have way better developers.

Exhausted 06-30-2009 02:50 PM

oh i forgot about delteria
maybe they can delete that too

Unkownsoldier 06-30-2009 02:50 PM

You can't delete Delteria, its 20x better than UN.

Exhausted 06-30-2009 02:52 PM

there's a reason UN has a large, active playercount.. and delteria died awhile ago

Unkownsoldier 06-30-2009 03:02 PM

No, they left, they didn't die, they left to go make a better sever lol. Even on there dev server they still almost get more players than Classic/N-Pulse

xXziroXx 06-30-2009 03:15 PM

Now I understand why your rep level is red.

Luda 06-30-2009 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus (Post 1502992)
No.

:)

CharlieM 06-30-2009 05:30 PM

Bad idea....

LordSquirt 06-30-2009 05:58 PM

I agree with most of what the other people said

no..

DarkCloud_PK 06-30-2009 06:24 PM

i want to see what becomes of these servers, especially with classic's moving to the UC tab. if classic is to die, it will be the management finishing it off. none of the content even fits on UN for either server anyway. did you think this one out before you even posted

Darlene159 06-30-2009 06:25 PM

This is not the answer to anything.
I want to see Classic and N-Pulse come back

kia345 06-30-2009 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhausted (Post 1502996)
there's a reason UN has a large, active playercount..

Quality > Quantity. Aside from sitting around sparring, UN has to be the worst server I have ever seen.
Quote:

and delteria died awhile ago
Someone hasn't been paying attention

Crono 06-30-2009 07:17 PM

Delete Exhausted

y/n

maximus_asinus 06-30-2009 07:35 PM

Yes

jorollychu 06-30-2009 08:03 PM

ya good idea move the classic overworld and levels to UN or inside a house in UN

Hiro 06-30-2009 08:13 PM

oh hey how about we take all the servers content and combine it into one giant graal server and then we can all play together it's the only way! :noob:

kia345 06-30-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jorollychu (Post 1503077)
ya good idea move the classic overworld and levels to UN or inside a house in UN


He said move the good content

MysticX2X 06-30-2009 09:00 PM

Pojo, would that be ctf to you.

James 06-30-2009 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1503065)
Delete Exhausted

y/n

yes

Tigairius 06-30-2009 09:15 PM

I think it's an interesting idea only due to the fact that it would remove the playerworlds with the lowest playercounts, but those playerworlds are making progress. N-Pulse Rebirth is questionable (as you said about Zodiac), but I will never support the removal of Delteria due to the progress they have made on Delteria Dev.

WaDaFack 06-30-2009 09:40 PM

I totally agree with you, NP and Classic have been around way too long and it's time to get rid of them. Besides, Graal needs to downsize anyways, theres too many servers for such a small playercount.
Delteria is working it's way up, and will probably be the new hit which will roll in some gamer bucks and be ranked up-top with Era,Zodiac and UN :).
I also think Valikorlia should be removed and be combined with Zodiac :) They have such good GFX but such a bad RPG system, lol!

kia345 06-30-2009 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MysticX2X (Post 1503111)
Pojo, would that be ctf to you.

I didn't say that was good, I said that was the entire server

DustyPorViva 06-30-2009 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by WaDaFack (Post 1503124)
Besides, Graal needs to downsize anyways, theres too many servers for such a small playercount.

Why? Half of the servers get no playercount... so it's not like they're sucking away potential players and making the other playerworlds suffer a smaller playercount because of it. Removing all the empty playerworlds isn't really going to make a difference playerworld-wise other than making the serverlist look a little cleaner.

I also don't see the harm in removing Delteria from the classic list just because Delteria dev is doing so great. Is it really going to suffer? It already has a constant 0 playercount, so removing it isn't going to have even the slightest effect on Delt dev. If Delt dev is as good as they make it out to be, then it should have absolutely no problem coming back from UC to classic. This whole 'reserved slots' for 'old classics but now in dev' servers is pretty silly. I'm not saying they should be removed, either... but there really is no justification for them staying up.

Vima 06-30-2009 10:22 PM

I don't think downsizeing Graal is the solution here, that would just be stupid.
That will give the signal that Graal has given up:
"We won't get anymore players, so let's downsize Graal so the remaining servers gets higher playercount."
For what reason? To pretend like we aren't losing players? To give the new players a false impression that we have loads of players?

We need to face the reality. Deal with the issues.
There are room for improvements in all of the servers, I think it's both the owners of the servers and the owners of GraalOnline to deal with this.
I really think we need to do something, before it's too late.

fowlplay4 06-30-2009 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WaDaFack (Post 1503124)
I also think Valikorlia should be removed and be combined with Zodiac.

Apples and oranges right there.. But I do wish I could get some epic graphic and level resources.

Crono 07-01-2009 12:38 AM

I'm seriously starting to think that people have given up on posting good ideas and post bad ones just for the hell of it. Do people even care what they suggest or do they only want their ideas to be used for the sake of it being their idea?

Novice 07-01-2009 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by crono (Post 1503181)
Do people even care what they suggest or do they only want their ideas to be used for the sake of it being their idea?

qft.

And I don't like that idea. Not only because am I staff on N-Pulse, but UN isn't as great as people think just because of the playercount. One of the only reasons for UN having such high playercount is because it's pretty much a large chatroom with a few things to do. Currently, N-Pulse is too, but it is having development done on it almost 24/7.

Frankie 07-01-2009 01:36 AM

they are all 3 completely different servers. you can't fuse them together.

fowlplay4 07-01-2009 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1503221)
they are all 3 completely different servers. you can't fuse them together.

Nonsense, we have the technology! Hilarious results could ensue. :)

Hiro 07-01-2009 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1503181)
I'm seriously starting to think that people have given up on posting good ideas and post bad ones just for the hell of it. Do people even care what they suggest or do they only want their ideas to be used for the sake of it being their idea?

i've been trying to come up with new ideas, but it seems that no one likes them, or thinks they are good. i doubt anyone can decide upon anything...other than the fact that SOMETHING has to be done

the lack of information from current developers also leaves us hanging

Exhausted 07-01-2009 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1503064)
Quality > Quantity. Aside from sitting around sparring, UN has to be the worst server I have ever seen.

That's why it would be better if it had access to Classic's/N-Pulse's levels and systems, then there'd be more stuff to do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1503119)
I think it's an interesting idea only due to the fact that it would remove the playerworlds with the lowest playercounts, but those playerworlds are making progress. N-Pulse Rebirth is questionable (as you said about Zodiac), but I will never support the removal of Delteria due to the progress they have made on Delteria Dev.

Finally someone makes a genuinely logical post. I think you make a really good point.. but N-Pulse was planning to release it's new server ages ago and they still haven't. Not sure about Delteria, though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaDaFack (Post 1503124)
I totally agree with you, NP and Classic have been around way too long and it's time to get rid of them. Besides, Graal needs to downsize anyways, theres too many servers for such a small playercount.
Delteria is working it's way up, and will probably be the new hit which will roll in some gamer bucks and be ranked up-top with Era,Zodiac and UN :).
I also think Valikorlia should be removed and be combined with Zodiac :) They have such good GFX but such a bad RPG system, lol!

I agree with the Valikorlia part.. no one (not even the PWA) seems to care about Val because they somehow get away with having the worst GP team EVER.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vima (Post 1503137)
I don't think downsizeing Graal is the solution here, that would just be stupid.
That will give the signal that Graal has given up:
"We won't get anymore players, so let's downsize Graal so the remaining servers gets higher playercount."
For what reason? To pretend like we aren't losing players? To give the new players a false impression that we have loads of players?

This isn't about "giving up"... did you even read this thread? This is about moving good content from dead/now useless servers to servers that are still thriving.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1503221)
they are all 3 completely different servers. you can't fuse them together.

This isn't trying to fuse them together. It's about deleting Delteria/Classic/N-Pulse, and psosibly even Valikorlia and letting UN or even Zodiac have access to their files so they can improve their own servers.

CharlieM 07-01-2009 05:26 AM

How do you need GP's on aserver that is straight up rp no cash no items nothing to steal, no purpose to hack..Valikorlia is an RP server not a dice em up server

Crono 07-01-2009 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieM (Post 1503268)
How do you need GP's on aserver that is straight up rp no cash no items nothing to steal, no purpose to hack..Valikorlia is an RP server not a dice em up server

Do you even know what GP's are for?

Twinny 07-01-2009 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieM (Post 1503268)
Valikorlia is an RP server not a dice em up server

Was that an intentional horrible pun? >_<

Nelm 07-01-2009 12:07 PM

This could possible be the worst thread of the year so far. This idea is flat out ridiculous.

Exhausted 07-01-2009 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nelm (Post 1503307)
This could possible be the worst thread of the year so far. This idea is flat out ridiculous.

yeah.. an idea to get rid of the servers with little to no betters for the betterment of the servers that actually have players is a flat-out ridiculous idea *rolls eyes*

CharlieM 07-01-2009 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1503278)
Was that an intentional horrible pun? >_<

I guess..I think I started to type shootem up ans was too lazy to delete the whole thing on my iPhone

Nelm 07-01-2009 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Exhausted (Post 1503311)
yeah.. an idea to get rid of the servers with little to no betters for the betterment of the servers that actually have players is a flat-out ridiculous idea *rolls eyes*

It's the job of the current classic tabbed servers' management to supply their server with a staff capable of bettering their own server, not taking the best things from other servers that have a low player count.

The things on Classic/N-Pulse/Delteria have all been worked on hard by their respective staff members and the content on these servers belongs to the server, not to other servers who want a cheap way to add new content. This idea of deleting servers and giving away their content, which they painstakingly created, is ludicrous.

Please, stop with all of these nonsensical ideas. It's one thing to suggest cleaning up the classic tab by placing servers with low player counts on the UC tab. However, it's an entirely different matter when you say that their content should be given to another server just because you don't personally get anything, in terms of enjoyment, out of playing those particular servers.

Removing these servers and giving away their content to another undeserving server is not going increase player count. The problem with player count has more to do with the actual game itself and it's various issues than any of the servers.


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