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Programmer 06-20-2009 06:00 AM

.:: Symphonia - The Last Dream ::.
 

Introduction
Many a year ago, the lands of Symphonia began to separate, not only between the nations, but physically as well. The ground began to crack and crumble in and drift in different directions, leaving many islands, seperating the many creatures and races that lived on these vast, vibrant islands.
Now, many years later, these monsters and races have developed the abilities to survive in their new lands and climates, allowing others to harness their teachings of their themselves, their skills and their abilities. Bringing forth power to the people of distant lands.
Symphonia is an RPG Fantasy style server developed with quality in mind. Beginning in 2006, we have pumped out lots of unique concepts. Now, we are restarting the last concept we began before we became known as Crystia. This concept is colloquially known today as The Last Dream.


Available positions
As we are short of staff at the current time, so we are looking for ALL development staff. This includes NAT, SAT (SFX Administration Team), GAT, LAT and GANI. I place emphasis on NAT because the last scripter (who I will not name, but his name rhymes with Lack) deleted all weapon and class scripts. To apply for any of these positions, simply forum PM me. Please make it clear which development position you would like to be, however!

Good luck to all of those who try out for these positions.
http://symphonia-graal.com/signature.png

Vima 06-20-2009 12:37 PM

I love that sexy picture "Symphonia... The Last Dream"
I'm just curious... Didn't Chompy have the backup of all the scripts?

anyways Good Luck!
Hope to play Symphonia soon :]

Darklux 06-20-2009 12:51 PM

Cool, I didn't like the way Symphonia evolved after Elk joined and ruined the project, just as always. Good luck, maybe forum pm me for some lat help, ill try to have some more time!

Mursle 06-20-2009 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vima (Post 1500471)
I love that sexy picture "Symphonia... The Last Dream"
I'm just curious... Didn't Chompy have the backup of all the scripts?

anyways Good Luck!
Hope to play Symphonia soon :]

Yeah Chompy has back ups of the scripts and I have some as well...We arent worried about that. We are just looking for a medicore scripter per say to help us, large systesm etc will be handled by Chompy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darklux (Post 1500476)
Cool, I didn't like the way Symphonia evolved after Elk joined and ruined the project, just as always. Good luck, maybe forum pm me for some lat help, ill try to have some more time!

Ima just say that Symphonia is independant from Elk's server ambitions :) and we are going at it like it was previously. Like this thread.

Darklux 06-20-2009 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mursle (Post 1500478)
Ima just say that Symphonia is independant from Elk's server ambitions :) and we are going at it like it was previously. Like this thread.

Nice!

Nothing against Elk, but his projects are mostly too ambitious to be accomplished (Esteria, Symphonia, iam pretty sure that there are some more examples).
I always prefer to see a smaller castle on the ground then a big castle in the clouds..

Soala 06-20-2009 02:22 PM

Cool :D

Unkownsoldier 06-20-2009 02:44 PM

What are your plans to be more than a server with just weapons and levels .. honestly, a sequel is never as good as the first one (Zodiac) and even that is having some problems.

Angelu 06-20-2009 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darklux (Post 1500482)
Nice!

Nothing against Elk, but his projects are mostly too ambitious to be accomplished (Esteria, Symphonia, iam pretty sure that there are some more examples).
I always prefer to see a smaller castle on the ground then a big castle in the clouds..

Esteria was Crow's and My Project not Elk's :)
When i worked on Symphonia it was a mix between Zodiac and Maloria
and in my eyes there is no reason to make a Server that is similar to a existing one
So i hope they start to make Symphonia a more original Server ;)

Galdor 06-20-2009 03:18 PM

Nice but the rocks and all that stuff are way to bright to fit with that grass =P
I don't agree that Elk ruined the project tho I really loved his sewer and the old castle he did with the waterfalls it would have been great =]

Cubes 06-20-2009 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1500487)
What are your plans to be more than a server with just weapons and levels .. honestly, a sequel is never as good as the first one (Zodiac) and even that is having some problems.

Zodiac wasn't the first one, Also their content is way prettier than Zodiacs and they have a stat system I believe so it's more like maloria than zodiac.

Elk 06-20-2009 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darklux (Post 1500482)
Nice!

Nothing against Elk, but his projects are mostly too ambitious to be accomplished (Esteria, Symphonia, iam pretty sure that there are some more examples).
I always prefer to see a smaller castle on the ground then a big castle in the clouds..

I've never worked on Esteria, or Symphonia, I made my own thing with Crystia more or less
and it didn't fail.

xXziroXx 06-20-2009 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1500487)
What are your plans to be more than a server with just weapons and levels .. honestly, a sequel is never as good as the first one (Zodiac) and even that is having some problems.

Zodiac wasn't first.



Valikorlia added stat system and mobs.
Maloria copies Valikorlia and implements their own version of their system.
Valikorlia stops using stat system.
Maloria adds more things into their system, making it somewhat unique (comparing to what it originally was).
Zodiac copies Maloria (+WoW and all the other 71236 games Yen admitted to ripping off).
Maloria goes off Classic.

Programmer 06-20-2009 08:47 PM

Guys, stop this flame war. This is about Symphonia, not about Elk, nor Angelu. Stay on topic :\

papajchris 06-20-2009 09:56 PM

If Symphonia is using the same stat system from like 3 years ago, then that was a rip from zodiac, which was probablly ripped from Mal or Val as Ziro stated. Either way, with Maloria making a come back, theres no room for 3 servers that were similar. Mal is changing alot (so i hear) and symphonia needs too. BUt anyways, the pics above look cool, and i have always considered the server a good one and a threat to zodiac before we made classic.

P.S. don't be mean to Elk!

DustyPorViva 06-20-2009 10:11 PM

Tone down the saturation, man :)

Clockwork 06-20-2009 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1500570)
If Symphonia is using the same stat system from like 3 years ago, then that was a rip from zodiac, which was probablly ripped from Mal or Val as Ziro stated. Either way, with Maloria making a come back, theres no room for 3 servers that were similar. Mal is changing alot (so i hear) and symphonia needs too. BUt anyways, the pics above look cool, and i have always considered the server a good one and a threat to zodiac before we made classic.

P.S. don't be mean to Elk!

Protip: Graal servers didn't invent stats.

Besides, as manager, the plans I have for Symphonia will derive it from the generic image that people associate with Zodiac and Maloria.

RPG's in an aspect are all a little of the same, but, thats what makes them good! Also, it wasn't Elk that ruined old symphonia, it was Angelu, Elk simply followed whatever Angelu mentioned! No disrespect to either of them though.

Symphonia is off to a great start and is still looking for great developers of nearly all kinds. Please apply! :)

Angelu 06-20-2009 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clockwork (Post 1500582)
Protip: Graal servers didn't invent stats.

Besides, as manager, the plans I have for Symphonia will derive it from the generic image that people associate with Zodiac and Maloria.

RPG's in an aspect are all a little of the same, but, thats what makes them good! Also, it wasn't Elk that ruined old symphonia, it was Angelu, Elk simply followed whatever Angelu mentioned! No disrespect to either of them though.

Symphonia is off to a great start and is still looking for great developers of nearly all kinds. Please apply! :)

Thats not really true ;)
The whole Staff without you was open for changes on the concept
Caleb got probs with the payment of the Server and Ian tried to make a standalone game out of it :P
Elk and me declined that and worked again on Symphonia/Crystia
You stoped working for 2 months so Chompy Elk and me started Crystia as new Server
Elk is old enough to know that uncreative fake work brings him nothing even without me :)
To stay on topic :
How i said if you change the concept so its not a Mal/Zod fake all is fine...
In the time i worked on Symphonia it was all a "to fake things is fine because the things proved they work" talking

Clockwork 06-21-2009 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angelu (Post 1500587)
To stay on topic :
How i said if you change the concept so its not a Mal/Zod fake all is fine...
In the time i worked on Symphonia it was all a "to fake things is fine because the things proved they work" talking


I'm all for originality, but I know what works for players and what doesn't. :P Maybe, just maybe, I didn't think that we should change the entire concept of symp only because you thought it would be better. And it wasn't just me.

Hiro 06-21-2009 12:31 AM

...what i could accomplish with a team that can develop products such as this...and what a shame that this will only be another RPG server, but hey; maybe you guys can perfect the graal-RPG server. who knows

Clockwork 06-21-2009 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiro (Post 1500594)
...what i could accomplish with a team that can develop products such as this...and what a shame that this will only be another RPG server, but hey; maybe you guys can perfect the graal-RPG server. who knows

Are you saying that you could do this better than I ? D:

On another note, still hirining...lots of fun, though still a WIP! X3

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/5...scrennyzzz.png

Luda 06-21-2009 10:17 AM

So cool!

Soala 06-21-2009 12:27 PM

Meow
I feel like working there =)

Chompy 06-21-2009 01:59 PM

Weee, detention :D

Darklux 06-21-2009 03:04 PM

Why is the concept stolen? Nearly all rpg systems are stat-based.. It's all more or less the same.
If you start like this, you can continue the "omg its stolen" line to dungeons and dragons....

Rufus 06-21-2009 03:17 PM

I really like your chalk board Aeko, but I think the whole level could use some more contrast and the floor tiles are pretty uncomfortable to look at.

Unkownsoldier 06-22-2009 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1500535)
Zodiac wasn't first.



Valikorlia added stat system and mobs.
Maloria copies Valikorlia and implements their own version of their system.
Valikorlia stops using stat system.
Maloria adds more things into their system, making it somewhat unique (comparing to what it originally was).
Zodiac copies Maloria (+WoW and all the other 71236 games Yen admitted to ripping off).
Maloria goes off Classic.


I didn't include Maloria because it is better than Zodiac. I put Zodiac in the description because that's all Zodiac is.

Crono 06-22-2009 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darklux (Post 1500724)
Why is the concept stolen? Nearly all rpg systems are stat-based.. It's all more or less the same.
If you start like this, you can continue the "omg its stolen" line to dungeons and dragons....

Pretty much the same reason why we call most modern servers Era rips, servers that differentiate from Graal's normal gameplay have a tendency to rip off of the "original" servers that first broke loose of the default system in favor of whatever it is they're doing instead (modern, rpg, etc). I have yet to see an RPG server that offers something new apart from better graphics than xyz server.

Either way I wouldn't mind if a server entirely "inspired" by Zodiac's gameplay makes it's way up the ladder, Graal needs it as Zodiac looks awful to the point where it's a joke. Yes I said looks, I don't mind the gameplay and play there myself.

Hiro 06-22-2009 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clockwork (Post 1500696)
Are you saying that you could do this better than I ? D:

in concept, game play, and general management? yes, probably. then again, people would have to listen and do what i said, which usually doesn't go over well with any developer.

Clockwork 06-22-2009 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiro (Post 1500888)
in concept, game play, and general management? yes, probably. then again, people would have to listen and do what i said, which usually doesn't go over well with any developer.

How can you say that when you don't even know me?

Hiro 06-23-2009 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clockwork (Post 1500924)
How can you say that when you don't even know me?

quite simply because i know myself.

Mursle 06-29-2009 03:37 AM

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Heres another update to the inside tilesets, I have been testing to see how it looks. Here you go:

Elk 06-29-2009 05:50 AM

That is very nice Mursle, you're a good LAT!

Robin 06-29-2009 09:55 AM

In retort to the "stats" argument, I put it to you that the first REAL stats system on Graal was the one introduced by Prozac on Sanstrata, which used the standard stats.png numbers to count orbs.

Prozac's brilliance on that system was immense.

Gambet 06-29-2009 02:41 PM

The graphics look great, hope you guys finish the project. :)

Crono 06-29-2009 06:27 PM

Colors look very "puke"ish and you can see the varying styles. Also, the window looks like a rib cage.

Soala 06-29-2009 09:25 PM

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Latest news from Symphonia =D
Start house under construction
+ You can see some throne I'm working on XD

Attachment 48824

Rufus 06-29-2009 09:37 PM

I agree with Crono, there are too many different styles used and therefore the levels are coming across no better than Zodiac's levels.

Soala 06-29-2009 09:41 PM

Chairs and tables should be like the picture from Mursle, not like in my screenshot.
Dunno why they are like that tho.


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