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Thanatoses 05-01-2009 01:31 AM

Era Staff Team
 
Hey, guys.
Feel free to post complaints/compliments or just your general opinion about our Staff Team.
All about Management, Administration, Development and etc.
I just thought it'd be nice to give them some feedback, so here you go.
May do it for individuals or entire Teams. Be responsible about it :D.

-Thanatoses

Nataxo 05-01-2009 01:35 AM

DEO YOU'RE AWESOME!!!!!!

Bet you didn't expect that.

Thanatoses 05-01-2009 02:11 AM

At what?

Frankie 05-01-2009 02:52 AM

it's a joke right now.

this thread will probably get deleted, but as long as nobody is taking it to a personal level it shouldn't be locked.

Thanatoses 05-02-2009 01:50 AM

It hasn't gotten "real" opinionated, lol. Moment someone says "Chris Vimes is a...."
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cbk1994 05-02-2009 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Thanatoses (Post 1488311)
It hasn't gotten "real" opinionated, lol. Moment someone says "Chris Vimes is a...."
D E L E T ED by cbk1994. Reason: SPAM or NO BASHING

I'm fine with people voicing suggestions.

The kind of thing I don't want to see is

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Originally Posted by The Random Idiot
omg chris vimes is such a ***** :\ so is deophite

what I'd rather see is

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Originally Posted by The Random Intellect
Chris Vimes and the rest of the staff are doing too much of ________.
The staff team isn't doing a good job with __________.

and such.

Thanatoses 05-02-2009 02:15 AM

The Administration team is focusing on nothing but the innecessities of era, its only common that they don't know what those necessities are because they are all new to Era. When they are told those necessities, they are reluctant to accept it and decide to formulate a personal to do list which as we know so far, has brought forth nothing but agony. How's that? rofl.

salesman 05-02-2009 02:19 AM

Everyone on the team is more than qualified to handle their jobs, and we all seem to be getting along (which hasn't happened in a long time).

Thanatoses 05-02-2009 02:22 AM

You getting along is hardly anyone's concern, if it means consolation. Great, but the concern is that is the server getting along. Inactive Manager, Inactive Gang/Business Admin, Incapable Player-Services Admin and an over zealous Dev Admin. (DELETED) rofl.
Looks rough from the player standpoint, nothing looks to be getting done nor do we see any progression, if anything we see steps backwards.

cbk1994 05-02-2009 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Thanatoses (Post 1488322)
You getting along is hardly anyone's concern, if it means consolation.

Not to players, no, but it is important nevertheless.
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Inactive Gang/Business Admin
He has a lot going on in his life right now, but I'm not going to give details without his permission.
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Incapable Player-Services Admin and an over zealous Dev Admin.
This is the kind of thing I don't want to see. Explain to me why Squirt is incapable and why I'm overzealous (which is one word, by the way).
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nothing looks to be getting done nor do we see any progression, if anything we see steps backwards.
Not sure how you see "steps backward" exactly, can you elaborate?

salesman 05-02-2009 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Thanatoses (Post 1488322)
You getting along is hardly anyone's concern, if it means consolation. Great, but the concern is that is the server getting along.

Getting along is very important. You cannot move anywhere when nobody wants to work together.

TSAdmin 05-02-2009 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Thanatoses (Post 1488320)
its only common that they don't know what those necessities are because they are all new to Era.

New people come and go all the time in any and all mediums of life and business. The old people who still hang around must conform to change with the "new" influx or their only other choice would be to leave. That's all I have to say about the situation, because I honestly don't get how you can say if it's not the "old way", it's "no way", simply because you're not open to new ideas as new people with said new ideas come and go.

Thanatoses 05-02-2009 07:25 AM

Tell 'em Lexus.

Chris Vimes first:
Squirt's Incapability: Squirt has no central ideas of how things "should" be in any of his departments except the Police Department. Therefore, he relies utterly on his "imposed" Admins giving them more power than they should have. And instead of him keeping all their powers in check and in retrospect to the general ideal of the server, he lets the freelance with it. Same exact movements TSAdmin made, Squirt doesn't have any idea of whats a "good job" nor a "bad job". When someone comments on a job, he simply states, "I didn't do it.", he still childishly plays the "blame game". Although, technically everything player-related that goes wrong, is his responsibility, therefore really shouldn't be "pointing" fingers at anyone. In other words, like TSAdmin's Administrators, his Admins can never do no wrong in his eyes, meaning only way they can step out of their position is if they retire. Ex. Nuada, now Daz. If any of you remember, you'll link the two.
Which wouldn't have mattered in, if TSAdmin or Squirt actually covered for their missing Admins. Rather than stamping blame on them.

Daz's Inactivity should not be affecting the server. He should've been backed up by his "BOSS" a LOOONG time ago. Which further more points to Squirt being incapable of upholding the duties of that position, seeing as him Acting as Gang Admin/Business Admin would be a much more catastrophic site than no one touching it all.

Overzealous Developer Admin: Chris Vimes realistically is more of a doer than a thinker, all the time I've known him and seen him work or Administrate on a Server. He's been known to build, and build with no linkage whatsoever. He's also a "touchy" person, meaning the slightest ill-comment can set him off into a series of mood swings and hissy fits. He can't take criticism, you don't put a person like that into an Administrative position, they belong as "yes" men. As I'd frankly put it.
Build your large systems, scripts based on your blueprints, do not allow them to formulate their own. #1. It'll be irrelative (random) and an idea that didn't take more than 30 seconds to think up. #2. If it is displeasing you, they'd rather flip you a bird than change it or tell you to "deal with it".
People like him can't have Administrative positions, too much power and too much at risk to be worried about sequential hissyfits. Since his ascension, the jails and bans have SKYROCKETED.
Word, overzealous suits him.

A step backward in the development and maturity of our Administration. HoudiniMan may have slowed down or brought a stop development to our server, but they sure as hell kept the staff team IN-CHECK. We've taken one giant leap backwards, what brought them here the first time, is the exact same thing the Administration is doing, yet again.
Who can say this is any better than Icarus' or TSAdmin's Era? lol.

Now to Sales: That is indeed true, but its sort of worse if you get along and STILL aren't moving, huh? Some might deem that as "hopeless".

TSAdmin: I've never said that, "if its not the old way, its no way". I've always been an ADVOCATE of change, if necessary. If the old way is working, why bother ourselves with a new one? Thats unnecessary. Even if the new is accepted, you haven't really made much of a break-through, just done extra unnecessary work. If the old way is hopeless, well yeah... bring on the new ways, because at that point, its a necessity.

LordSquirt 05-02-2009 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Thanatoses (Post 1488390)

Squirt's Incapability: Squirt has no central ideas of how things "should" be in any of his departments except the Police Department. Therefore, he relies utterly on his "imposed" Admins giving them more power than they should have. And instead of him keeping all their powers in check and in retrospect to the general ideal of the server, he lets the freelance with it. Same exact movements TSAdmin made, Squirt doesn't have any idea of whats a "good job" nor a "bad job". When someone comments on a job, he simply states, "I didn't do it.", he still childishly plays the "blame game". Although, technically everything player-related that goes wrong, is his responsibility, therefore really shouldn't be "pointing" fingers at anyone. In other words, like TSAdmin's Administrators, his Admins can never do no wrong in his eyes, meaning only way they can step out of their position is if they retire. Ex. Nuada, now Daz. If any of you remember, you'll link the two.
Which wouldn't have mattered in, if TSAdmin or Squirt actually covered for their missing Admins. Rather than stamping blame on them.

Daz's Inactivity should not be affecting the server. He should've been backed up by his "BOSS" a LOOONG time ago. Which further more points to Squirt being incapable of upholding the duties of that position, seeing as him Acting as Gang Admin/Business Admin would be a much more catastrophic site than no one touching it all.

From reading your post I can't comprehend the abursdity of it, therefore, I'll prove most of your statements are false.

While yes, I do give the Admin's of each position more freedom to do whatever they want, however, whats wrong with that? As long as they are producing results and players don't have a problem with them I as well don't see a problem with it. Although this doesn't mean that admins can do whatever they want. For the most part if they want to do anything drastic/important they ALWAYS tell me first. I don't just go and let them do anything they wish, and I don't see where you ever saw that happen. Also, if someone is doing a horrible job, yes, I will fire them and find a replacement (etc Danny, even though i'm good friends with him). Also, while I do focus on the GP team more than others it is because that team can be considered the 'highest' priority compared to the Events Team and the FAQ team. However, this is does not mean that ET's and the FAQ's are useless, since every position matters.

Now onto the Gang/Biz things. Must I remind you that I was the one before Daz doing these Gang events at a weekly basis. I was going out of my way to make sure that these events were hosted on time and hosted properly. When Sales left as Dev Admin there was no one hosting events, therefore, I decided to take the incentive and begin to get some hosted. Although there is less gang events being hosted now, there was never anything said that this was going to be a weekly occurrence. Also, I talk to Daz frequently and he ALWAYS tells me what he does, and I tell him the changes that I make in consideration of GBA stuff as well. In regards to me not taking over Daz who says I don't? I have to always change those access scripts for people/new management teams in the business. Therefore, your accusation that i'm not covering for him is totally false.

Frankie 05-02-2009 03:29 PM

Here's my opinion. I'll start from the very top of the staff list.

As a manager of a server, the possibilities are endless. When you're in such position there are a lot of things that you can do to further better the server. What I've noticed is that Deo does not use his position to it's full potential. He takes the easy route. Technically, he's doing his job as a manager, but in the most minimal way possible. From my judgment, he hires other people to do the work for him while sitting back just being there to approve and deny certain development proposals made by other admins. You can say that's what a manager is supposed to do, but in my opinion, good managers are a lot more involved with the server.

I'm open to be proven wrong, and I'm sure Squirt and Chris are going to rip this post apart to do so. Deo is obviously setting off a horrible impression as the manager if what I'm saying is false.

Next.

When Squirt was first hired to the staff team, I couldn't help but laugh at him. I had no idea who this guy was yet he was handed GP Chief. As time went by I've come to respect him more. I was told that he did a lot of work to release instruments so he seems dedicated to me. I just don't think he should be anything more than a GP. What worries me is that if Deo for some reason gets fired or steps down, Squirt would be next in line for manager. It's a logical assumption. I do hope that if Deo is put in a situation where he is no longer manager, Bell can be convinced to put someone more qualified into the position.

Next!

I lost a lot of respect for Chris when I saw his corruption at first hand. After explaining to Deo what happened, nothing was done. After submitting a support ticket, Chris lied to Tig. Cool! Apart from that, he's a great developer. I just don't think he should be in the position to control Era's future. His post about wanting to focus on non-pk related ideas really made me lose all hope for Era's future.

I like Graal, and I like Era. It makes me pretty mad knowing that the wrong people are in charge of this server. The direction it's going in is going to make Era a whole different place than what it really should be. I guess nothing can be done except wait and hope that either sense is knocked into the administration, or that they are replaced.

Deophite18 05-02-2009 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thanatoses (Post 1488390)
Daz's Inactivity should not be affecting the server. He should've been backed up by his "BOSS" a LOOONG time ago. Which further more points to Squirt being incapable of upholding the duties of that position, seeing as him Acting as Gang Admin/Business Admin would be a much more catastrophic site than no one touching it all.

Daz has been given leniency for his inactivity due to irl issues. His duties are being handled until he returns full time. It’s obvious that you think that when we do not submit to every demand you or anyone else have regarding gangs or businesses then nothing is being done at all. Things do get done and decisions are made, but only when they call for it. Not just because Wil Soul or anyone else demands it.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Thanatoses (Post 1488390)
A step backward in the development and maturity of our Administration. HoudiniMan may have slowed down or brought a stop development to our server, but they sure as hell kept the staff team IN-CHECK. We've taken one giant leap backwards, what brought them here the first time, is the exact same thing the Administration is doing, yet again.
Who can say this is any better than Icarus' or TSAdmin's Era? lol.

A step backwards? I don’t see how Era is any worse than it was when there was a staff change. It’s true there have been some setbacks ever since our Dev Team came into existence. However, it took some time but we are currently back on track and working on things we should have been from the start. As for maturity, ill be honest. I am probably the most mature staff member on Era simply because I am older than everyone else. That is not to say that I have a bunch of immature kids working under me because that isn’t the case. For the most part most of the staff are mature and rarely goof off.


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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1488427)
Here's my opinion. I'll start from the very top of the staff list.

As a manager of a server, the possibilities are endless. When you're in such position there are a lot of things that you can do to further better the server. What I've noticed is that Deo does not use his position to it's full potential. He takes the easy route. Technically, he's doing his job as a manager, but in the most minimal way possible. From my judgment, he hires other people to do the work for him while sitting back just being there to approve and deny certain development proposals made by other admins. You can say that's what a manager is supposed to do, but in my opinion, good managers are a lot more involved with the server.

I resent this. First of all, you are implying I hire people to do work for me when I could do it myself. It’s no secret to anyone that I am not a Developer. I don’t script and I am not especially skilled at level making so obviously I would Hire LAT’s, NAT’s etc. But I have personally only hired a few dev members here and there. I let the Dev Admin decide who to hire unless I feel strongly about a specific person.

Also the fact that I do not develop is bitter sweet in my opinion. On one hand I could contribute more to the addition of all the new content and speed up the process. On the other hand I do not have that holding me back from focusing on my other duties. Because of this all of my focus goes into managing the staff team as a whole, making sure the server continues to move forward and that everyone is doing the job they were hired to do. Making sure everyone gets along and that my RC stays drama free. As a past Admin you should know that this isn’t always as easy as it sounds. It isn’t always as simple as asking someone to do something and getting results or a yes or no answer. Sometimes I have to bring out a side of me that I don't like to show. But it's required sometimes in order to make sure things go according to plan.

What else am I having all these people do for me? Even though there are other departments given these specific jobs, I still handle any issues regarding scams, items, biz & gangs if people come directly to me and I am not busy or no one else is on. You don’t work with me and you hardly ever speak to me so I think your opinion of me is flawed.


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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1488427)
When Squirt was first hired to the staff team, I couldn't help but laugh at him. I had no idea who this guy was yet he was handed GP Chief. As time went by I've come to respect him more. I was told that he did a lot of work to release instruments so he seems dedicated to me. I just don't think he should be anything more than a GP. What worries me is that if Deo for some reason gets fired or steps down, Squirt would be next in line for manager. It's a logical assumption. I do hope that if Deo is put in a situation where he is no longer manager, Bell can be convinced to put someone more qualified into the position.

You are not giving him enough credit. Squirt is a capable person, and has learned a whole lot ever since I brought him on as a GP. He learns more and more with each day and is deserving of his current position.


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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1488427)
I lost a lot of respect for Chris when I saw his corruption at first hand. After explaining to Deo what happened, nothing was done. After submitting a support ticket, Chris lied to Tig. Cool! Apart from that, he's a great developer. I just don't think he should be in the position to control Era's future. His post about wanting to focus on non-pk related ideas really made me lose all hope for Era's future.

I loathe corruption, and I do not stand for it. I am very strict when handling any situation regarding it. This is a major difference between myself and some of the past Admins. I’m not really sure what you are talking about with the Chris situation and me ignoring you. If it has to do with a robot then I took care of it as soon as I got a pm from you. As for him being in charge of “Era’s future”, that isn’t totally accurate. While he does have most of the control on new content, it is not a dictatorship. He gets feedback from Me, Squirt and lots of other staff about any new ideas or any concepts regarding the “New” Era and takes all of it into account. I think you should appreciate someone like Chris a little more. He has done TONS of work for Era in the amount of time he has been staff, and not a lot of people give him credit for this. And despite what others may think he is probably one of the most mature kids I have ever seen in his age group.

papajchris 05-02-2009 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1488427)
I lost a lot of respect for Chris when I saw his corruption at first hand. After explaining to Deo what happened, nothing was done. After submitting a support ticket, Chris lied to Tig. Cool! Apart from that, he's a great developer. I just don't think he should be in the position to control Era's future. His post about wanting to focus on non-pk related ideas really made me lose all hope for Era's future.

I like Graal, and I like Era. It makes me pretty mad knowing that the wrong people are in charge of this server. The direction it's going in is going to make Era a whole different place than what it really should be. I guess nothing can be done except wait and hope that either sense is knocked into the administration, or that they are replaced.

Now that is just being closed minded. More often than not, majority of the players are idling on Era. Non-pk things simply allows them to stand still and enjoy it more. Everyone seems to be whining that Era is a music server now or some other b.s. I mean when cars came out was everyone like OMG, Era is not pk anymore, it's nascar! If you enjoy pking so much, DO IT. You are not forced to play music or be near an instrument on Era. GO get a party going and go kill music players if that will please you. I think the idea of non pk items is awesome! On babylon, i loved using the swatter, on UN i loved the pointless items to use, etc.. It gets boring to only have two options 1. pk 2. idle

Thanatoses 05-02-2009 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Deophite18 (Post 1488453)
Daz has been given leniency for his inactivity due to irl issues. His duties are being handled until he returns full time. It’s obvious that you think that when we do not submit to every demand you or anyone else have regarding gangs or businesses then nothing is being done at all. Things do get done and decisions are made, but only when they call for it. Not just because Wil Soul or anyone else demands it.

I am not at all attacking Daz for his inactivity nor stampeding you because you gave him "leniency". My main point is, while he is gone, his duties are unfulfilled. Events are no longer regularly hosted, Gangs are not at all monitored, and if anything gang-related is not functioning correctly, the leaders have to wait for DAZ to appear and rectify the problem. Hence my quarrel, which leads to another mal-quality in our PSA. Squirt taking over for Daz would be a counter-productive rectification, seeing as he isn't qualified nor prepared to have control Gangs/Businesses. Which also leads to a conclusion of the fact he isn't "fit" to do more than be a "GP". I always pictured a PSA as being qualified to handle EVERY job individually under his/her jurisdiction. Meaning a PSA must be a qualified: ETA, GPC, Gang Admin, Business Admin and etc. Which is why you were unfit for the job as well, Deophite. Squirt attends to the GPs because that is the only thing he knows how to do, which signifies Frankie's point, he's fit for nothing more than a GP. We don't need someone to be wasting the potential of the job by "learning", when there are others who initially could've done the job to its fullest potential. Ex. "Daz". Your favour of Squirt has given more than the benefit of the doubt to acquire that position. Who else would've given it to him?



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A step backwards? I don’t see how Era is any worse than it was when there was a staff change. It’s true there have been some setbacks ever since our Dev Team came into existence. However, it took some time but we are currently back on track and working on things we should have been from the start. As for maturity, ill be honest. I am probably the most mature staff member on Era simply because I am older than everyone else. That is not to say that I have a bunch of immature kids working under me because that isn’t the case. For the most part most of the staff are mature and rarely goof off.
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Why is it not? Chris Vimes isn't exactly the pinnacle of maturity, neither is Squirt and I can go down the line naming them. So yes, the maturity level is LOW.


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But I have personally only hired a few dev members here and there. I let the Dev Admin decide who to hire unless I feel strongly about a specific person.
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You just made Frankie's point for him. You don't hire others to do your job for you, in retrospet... the Management should be MUCH more deeply involved with the Developmental-Aspect of the server than any other. Seeing as that is the back-bone, you're more of an Advisor, than a Manager. You are supposed to thoroughly review and go over every Developmental Addition to your team. Hiring of Developers should be a tag-team procedure. Meaning having a strong central idea of what a "good" developer is. Chris Vimes himself isn't even a "developer", so to speak. He is an NAT. Angel was a "Developer", Daz is a "Developer", Sales is a "Developer".
Yes, a Manager doesn't need to KNOW how to Develope, but he does in-deed need a central idea of every job on the server. Meaning to know whats a "good" job and whats a "bad" job. Not relying on those hired to tell you.
You should be the one telling them whats right or wrong. You aren't PWA, you don't just sit back and affiliate when necessary, your affiliation with the workings should be full-time. You're not on a at-need basis, you're supposed to always be there. Take "Streety" for example, UN's Manager. Always on the scene, and he isn't much of a Developer either. Not in the scripting department atleast. But yet, he always on the developmental scene as well as the player-related. Watching and stepping in when necessary. HE runs server, not Administration, they are what they should be, "assistance".

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Also the fact that I do not develop is bitter sweet in my opinion. On one hand I could contribute more to the addition of all the new content and speed up the process. On the other hand I do not have that holding me back from focusing on my other duties. Because of this all of my focus goes into managing the staff team as a whole, making sure the server continues to move forward and that everyone is doing the job they were hired to do. Making sure everyone gets along and that my RC stays drama free. As a past Admin you should know that this isn’t always as easy as it sounds. It isn’t always as simple as asking someone to do something and getting results or a yes or no answer. Sometimes I have to bring out a side of me that I don't like to show. But it's required sometimes in order to make sure things go according to plan.[/QUOTE]

According to who's plan? Is the question.




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You are not giving him enough credit. Squirt is a capable person, and has learned a whole lot ever since I brought him on as a GP. He learns more and more with each day and is deserving of his current position.[/QUOTE]

You are giving him too much credit because he in your eyes is a version of you. Squirt knows nothing of every job under his jurisdiction besides GP.
Sounds deserving, doesn't it? Shouldn't he have learned before he got the job? PSA isn't a "training" job, if I may say so.




I loathe corruption, and I do not stand for it. I am very strict when handling any situation regarding it. This is a major difference between myself and some of the past Admins. I’m not really sure what you are talking about with the Chris situation and me ignoring you. If it has to do with a robot then I took care of it as soon as I got a pm from you. As for him being in charge of “Era’s future”, that isn’t totally accurate. While he does have most of the control on new content, it is not a dictatorship. He gets feedback from Me, Squirt and lots of other staff about any new ideas or any concepts regarding the “New” Era and takes all of it into account. I think you should appreciate someone like Chris a little more. He has done TONS of work for Era in the amount of time he has been staff, and not a lot of people give him credit for this. And despite what others may think he is probably one of the most mature kids I have ever seen in his age group.[/QUOTE]


Corrupion exists as rambunctiously as it did in the previous 3-2 Eras.
You're not around enough.

cbk1994 05-02-2009 07:52 PM

This is turning into a flaming war. You've made your points.


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