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Sinkler 11-09-2008 02:54 AM

Ingame Playerlist
 
How do I get rid of this blue ingame playerlist?

Crono 11-09-2008 03:13 AM

F7
Options
Uncheck "Use in-game playerlist"

Don't even know why Stefan added it, its awful.

Skyld 11-09-2008 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1440551)
Don't even know why Stefan added it, its awful.

Because Mac and Linux users don't have a choice. Maybe Windows users won't soon, either.

knightfire35 11-09-2008 03:28 AM

I use the in-game player list, I like it way more than the other one.

Tigairius 11-09-2008 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyld (Post 1440554)
Because Mac and Linux users don't have a choice. Maybe Windows users won't soon, either.

To clear up what Skyld said, when windows users don't have a choice it'll be windowed anyways, just using the -Playerlist script.

kia345 11-09-2008 04:16 AM

Did that buggy docked playerlist ever get fixed?

cbk1994 11-09-2008 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1440581)
Did that buggy docked playerlist ever get fixed?

No.

Crono 11-09-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyld (Post 1440554)
Because Mac and Linux users don't have a choice. Maybe Windows users won't soon, either.

**** mac and linux users

Sinkler 11-09-2008 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1440624)
**** mac and linux users

Agreed.

Umat 11-09-2008 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1440624)
**** mac and linux users

That's a r***rded thing to say. That's like saying **** blacks and asians.

Chompy 11-09-2008 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Umat (Post 1440634)
That's a r***rded thing to say. That's like saying **** blacks and asians.

When did computers have a life or a mind it self?

Codein 11-09-2008 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Chompy (Post 1440635)
When did computers have a life or a mind it self?

I think he's talking more about the user rather than the computer itself.

Chompy 11-09-2008 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Codein (Post 1440636)
I think he's talking more about the user rather than the computer itself.

Yeah, but he's comparing a human with a computer. Doesn't matter if the user of the Mac or Linux computer is Asian or Black..

Umat 11-09-2008 03:44 PM

I think it's great that CJ offers support for Windows, Mac OS X and Linux. It's a step towards the future, more companies are doing this every year. Id software has been doing this since the beginning.

Just because you're stuck with Mac or just doesn't want to use Windows doesn't mean that you don't want to play games. CJ decided to make it easy for themselves by making the in-game playerlist, yes it sucks and Mac/Linux should be able to use an external one too. But the in-game one will do fine until then. (I know it will never happen.)

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Originally Posted by Chompy (Post 1440640)
Yeah, but he's comparing a human with a computer. Doesn't matter if the user of the Mac or Linux computer is Asian or Black..

What I meant was that it's as stupid as anything to discriminate someone because of what operating system they're using. The black/asian was not needed though, I feel you. But I want you to understand.

Codein 11-09-2008 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chompy (Post 1440640)
Yeah, but he's comparing a human with a computer. Doesn't matter if the user of the Mac or Linux computer is Asian or Black..

He's not. He's comparing with between 4 different types of people. Blacks and Asians and Linux and Mac users. However, I don't believe the level of discrimination is the same.

Umat 11-09-2008 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Codein (Post 1440644)
However, I don't believe the level of discrimination is the same.

No, it was a bad example. But either way, you understand my statement, that is enough.

Chompy 11-09-2008 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Umat (Post 1440643)
What I meant was that it's as stupid as anything to discriminate someone because of what operating system they're using. The black/asian was not needed though, I feel you. But I want you to understand.

Ah, ok. :o

cbk1994 11-09-2008 07:15 PM

The in-game playerlist is not that bad when it's external, but its still very crappy in the version I have (right click doesn't work; middle click does?), hovering mouse over doesn't work unless you click inside, moving your mouse outside always brings up the tool tip, names don't refresh unless you put your mouse over it. However, I was told Stefan fixed these in the next version :)

Would also be nice if it could dock like on the Windows external playerlist.

The reason there are so few Mac users is because the current client sucks on Intel Macs, which almost every Mac user has. The new client will help a lot, assuming CJ can get the publicity/advertising.

The reason for so few Linux users is because virtually no gamers play Linux :p

Umat 11-09-2008 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1440683)
The reason for so few Linux users is because virtually no gamers play Linux :p

Say what? :P Get your facts straight, or don't open your mouth. The only reason there's less gamers that use linux is because most companies doesn't make their games for linux. I know lots of people who use Linux and play games. In fact, most of my friends are. It's not a problem at all to play Windows games on Linux if you know what you're doing. And you don't "play" Linux, you use Linux.

Felix_Xenophobe 11-09-2008 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Umat (Post 1440634)
That's a r***rded thing to say. That's like saying **** blacks and asians.

wat

Soala 11-09-2008 08:41 PM

External Playerlist should be updated also, I don't see why the ingame one got a mass message option while the external doesnt :( I hate shift+scrolling all the list everytime I wanna send a mass.

Codein 11-09-2008 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by alexandralove (Post 1440706)
External Playerlist should be updated also, I don't see why the ingame one got a mass message option while the external doesnt :( I hate shift+scrolling all the list everytime I wanna send a mass.

Shift + End

Felix_Xenophobe 11-09-2008 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Codein (Post 1440708)
Shift + End

this

xXziroXx 11-09-2008 09:01 PM

Ctrl + A tbh.

Crono 11-09-2008 09:26 PM

There's no point in crippling an already working Windows version in the name of platform compatibility. I've briefly used the version with external PM windows (yeah it's pretty sad we have to wait for something that was working fine years ago) and it's still not the same.

Even then, why does the Windows version have to have the far inferior in-game playerlist enabled by default?

Soala 11-09-2008 09:26 PM

eeh, didnt know that :noob:

Umat 11-09-2008 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1440725)
Even then, why does the Windows version have to have the far inferior in-game playerlist enabled by default?

Is it? That's just sad...

In my opinion Graal v2.31 was the far best version ever.

DustyPorViva 11-09-2008 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Umat (Post 1440740)
Is it? That's just sad...

In my opinion Graal v2.31 was the far best version ever.

I just wish they'd stop relying on the GUI systems. They're pretty damn ugly and I'd prefer a custom-made screen for stuff like signing on over a GUI any day.

Umat 11-09-2008 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1440741)
I just wish they'd stop relying on the GUI systems. They're pretty damn ugly and I'd prefer a custom-made screen for stuff like signing on over a GUI any day.

I second that.

Crono 11-09-2008 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Umat (Post 1440740)
Is it? That's just sad...

In my opinion Graal v2.31 was the far best version ever.

I liked V4's playerlist + pm windows. Could have used an additional option here and there but much better than today's. :/

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1440741)
I just wish they'd stop relying on the GUI systems. They're pretty damn ugly and I'd prefer a custom-made screen for stuff like signing on over a GUI any day.

Amen.

Umat 11-09-2008 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1440762)
I liked V4's playerlist + pm windows. Could have used an additional option here and there but much better than today's. :/

Ah, forgot that v4 was a lot similiar to v2.3 that way. v5 is by far the worst version though. In many ways.

napo_p2p 11-10-2008 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Umat (Post 1440763)
Ah, forgot that v4 was a lot similiar to v2.3 that way. v5 is by far the worst version though. In many ways.

Nah, I think v3 was worse than v5.

Umat 11-10-2008 01:26 AM

Probably about the same.

Crono 11-10-2008 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by napo_p2p (Post 1440770)
Nah, I think v3 was worse than v5.

I liked the idea of v3 (the look of the serverlist etc) but the client itself didn't feel like it was Graal. The graphics seemed fuzzier, but the mouse cursor was kind of neat. I liked v4, but v5 was a horrible step. "They" think it's awesome though, so whatever. :asleep:

Umat 11-10-2008 10:12 PM

v3 had a pretty classic kind of serverlist right? That was actually one good thing about it. :P

Crono 11-10-2008 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Umat (Post 1440928)
v3 had a pretty classic kind of serverlist right? That was actually one good thing about it. :P

Some old screen I took back then...(was on Windows 2000, what an ugly OS)

I have more somewhere but I can't find 'em.

DustyPorViva 11-10-2008 10:41 PM

I don't think I ever got v3 working properly for me. Either way, I was mostly gone around that time.

Umat 11-10-2008 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1440943)
Some old screen I took back then...(was on Windows 2000, what an ugly OS)

I have more somewhere but I can't find 'em.

About 2000, seconded.
And I think you can still can connect with the Graal v3 client to the serverlist although you get "You need to upgrade to v5.12 to play on this server"

cbk1994 11-10-2008 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Umat (Post 1440763)
Ah, forgot that v4 was a lot similiar to v2.3 that way. v5 is by far the worst version though. In many ways.

I completely disagree. I still consider v5 to be the best version of Graal. Yes, there are things we don't like. The website, the login screen, observer mode, etc.

There are still tons of things that make v5 the best version so far. There were massive speed improvements on most servers for the Mac client (before Universal, when the Mac version began to run the same or better than Windows). There were scripting language improvements. Bug fixes. And many more things I can't think of.
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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1440943)
Some old screen I took back then...(was on Windows 2000, what an ugly OS)

I have more somewhere but I can't find 'em.

I miss that screen.

Crono 11-10-2008 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1440953)
I still consider v5 to be the best version of Graal.

Stopped reading.


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