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alcatis 09-21-2008 01:16 AM

Cave level :)
 
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Looked at Maximu's awesome cave level which is why it looks so similar, just for practice. Making another one why my own twist later. Might have overused the grass spots a little, also, some of the desert grass tiles are blocking >.< very annoying. Trying to fix that, but I cant seem to find any other non blocking ones.

Elizabeth 09-21-2008 01:20 AM

i like it :O

Codein 09-21-2008 01:21 AM

Looking really nice man :)

Draenin 09-21-2008 01:58 AM

Very cool, dude. Excellent structure for a cave. The layering looks very nice.

knightfire35 09-21-2008 04:08 AM

It's nice, keep them coming.

Crono1508 09-21-2008 05:52 AM

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...7&d=1141628291

cbk1994 09-21-2008 06:09 AM

Cool, but too dark (the lighted one).

The original is pretty cool as well.

maximus_asinus 09-21-2008 08:16 AM

Very nicely done, but there are a few minor things I would fix.

Firstly the all to common error with the diagonal north walls. You probably can't spot the tiles in my screenshot but there is a slightly different pair of tiles that go into these diagonal walls that give a long diagonal wall a smoother look (you might see it if you look really close at my screenshot, look slightly left from the waterfall and you'll see it).

Second would be the stairs. The tiles you used are made for expanding staircases, and have no borders around them, so they don't look quite right.

Third is watch your copy/pasting. I noticed a lot of grass patterns were repeated.

Elk 09-21-2008 11:06 AM

Really good cave

Crono 09-21-2008 12:02 PM

I like it. The only problem with max's and yours is that the dirt part is very plain. Don't know any workarounds but just fiddle around.

Max's darksand on the outside border (on the top) were more straight, while yours are a bit too bubbly. You should straighten it out as it looks a bit ugly the way it is.

Dim the level.

draygin 09-21-2008 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1425124)
I like it. The only problem with max's and yours is that the dirt part is very plain. Don't know any workarounds but just fiddle around.

Max's darksand on the outside border (on the top) were more straight, while yours are a bit too bubbly. You should straighten it out as it looks a bit ugly the way it is.

Dim the level.

Really I'm of the opinion that the outside should be very plain. If it gets all crazy with the details it will really distract players from the areas that matter. This is just a nice alternative to a back blackground.

I agree that the detail around the edge is to bubbly.

Things I would also change is I would use less of the dead grass and add a few of the two red stones that go with the sand tiles.

Outside of that some lighting effects like Crono suggested.

Darlene159 09-21-2008 05:09 PM

I like it. :)

gemini2 09-21-2008 05:20 PM

Yeah, I really like the way these caves are put together. Good jorb. :D

alcatis 09-21-2008 05:58 PM

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Level is dimmed, but alt+1 wont catch it :( Also, I cant make any nice light effects. I can only use seteffect xD

Thanks for the compliments and tips, I'll fix the bubbliness around the edges and look for the smoother diagonal tile :P Also, red stones?

[Edit] Never mind, I see the stone you mean now :P Never noticed it was red.

Fixed bubbliness, removed most repetitive grass spots. Tried the red stone, but no.. It looked weird to me.

Nataxo 09-22-2008 04:41 AM

niceee

draygin 09-22-2008 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by alcatis (Post 1425220)
Level is dimmed, but alt+1 wont catch it :( Also, I cant make any nice light effects. I can only use seteffect xD

Thanks for the compliments and tips, I'll fix the bubbliness around the edges and look for the smoother diagonal tile :P Also, red stones?

[Edit] Never mind, I see the stone you mean now :P Never noticed it was red.

Fixed bubbliness, removed most repetitive grass spots. Tried the red stone, but no.. It looked weird to me.

They look good when used sparingly. If you use a ton of them they do look really bad yes. However if you did maybe 2-4 it would add a nice subtle accent that would be barely noticable over all.

It's still a very good level over all.

alcatis 09-22-2008 05:10 PM

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Alright, added red stones again :P Looked kinda good with fewer ones, also found that smooth diagonal cave tile thing I think. Looked smoother.

draygin 09-22-2008 05:29 PM

The level looks really sharp.

With that custom water you're using does it have any kind of custom details you can add to it? For your whole level it's the plainest piece and it really stands out. What ever you do go very subtle for that part. 2-4 tiles of detailing at most for the whole light/dark area since the water itself isn't very large.

This is just nit picking at this point as the level is very good and even with out any more changes it's in tip top shape.

alcatis 09-22-2008 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by draygin (Post 1425499)
The level looks really sharp.

With that custom water you're using does it have any kind of custom details you can add to it? For your whole level it's the plainest piece and it really stands out. What ever you do go very subtle for that part. 2-4 tiles of detailing at most for the whole light/dark area since the water itself isn't very large.

This is just nit picking at this point as the level is very good and even with out any more changes it's in tip top shape.

Nothing but the deepwater stone I believe =/

draygin 09-22-2008 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by alcatis (Post 1425508)
Nothing but the deepwater stone I believe =/

I wouldn't use a deep water stone for such a small area.

It's not that big a deal the level still looks great.

alcatis 09-22-2008 11:01 PM

Alright, thanks :P and thanks for the help, I'll remember this when I make the other cave levels.

WanDaMan 09-23-2008 12:58 PM

I like! Nicely done :)

DrakilorP2P 09-23-2008 07:19 PM

I like the shadow :o

farte6 09-23-2008 10:46 PM

It looks cool enough to me.

alcatis 09-24-2008 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WanDaMan (Post 1425698)
I like! Nicely done :)

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Originally Posted by DrakilorP2P (Post 1425747)
I like the shadow :o

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Originally Posted by farte6 (Post 1425793)
It looks cool enough to me.


Thank you :P


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