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p2p_Sir_Link 03-17-2008 01:25 AM

Application: Kevin Azite
 
My name (obviously in game, I am afraid of you people) is Kevin Azite, and I've been a classic player since at least 2001 (I can't go back and decide an official time unless some staff member wants to check the registration of the account (yooooyyyoo), but even then, that may have been removed when trials were purged. The easiest way to describe where I am known would be saying I'm notorious on Classic for being a complete ***hole, but in reality that just stems from my crippling lack of likability (perfectly qualifying for this job!). I quit Graal for quite some time but returned after getting a bank account and the ability to use PayPal, and I've taken quite an active interest (literally, since Graal development now earns me a grade in school) in Graal Development for my third year of Computer Science courses, Computer Systems (I earned a 5 on the Computer Science AB AP exam last year.)

I've worked on several UC playerworlds and can't remember the names of the ones that were actually going somewhere (none of them have "flourished" and gone Classic). However, I currently work on Classic as a NAT, and as far as NATs typically go, my "abuse" is typically minimal (compared to how the typical NAT goes about things).

Since I now fully know that I have "piqued interest", I will explain why I am so desirable. One, I am so incredibly attractive that I will draw in new players by the millions. But more realistically, has I have explained, I am required to actively play a part in Graal and its development for class work. Wouldn't it be fantastic to know that you could guarantee that I am working in a productive manner just by having my teacher's email address and giving them progress reports on my performance? When has GraalOnline ever had that kind of control over its volunteer employees??? My guess is never, and I can only see this as being beneficial. You have the ability to keep me from deviating away from any responsibilities I have by directly having a hand on my GPA.

I am in high school (but let's pretend I've graduated since I could've last year, I am only taking AP Math and Science courses now) and am not employed. However, I have been employed and have worked internships for several programming related interests (I have been working with the US Army as well, although that is now over). I can probably dedicate anywhere from 4-6 hours a day to Graal duties, although not active all throughout that time period. I can easily keep an eye on RC though and intervene if anything major is happening.

As far as Graal's playerworld policies go, I currently see quite a big need for some sort of basic groundwork structurally as far as scripting goes. Scripting has obviously taken a bigger role in playerworlds since the days of hacking bushes and player-killing for entertainment are gone. Therefore, the scripters in power need to create some sort of core system (I don't mean something to handle an explosion or two), and release it along with a full fledged API (not what is currently on graal.net) to help developers be able to release better playerworlds with only the ability of making levels. This could only be beneficial to Graal Online.

The best example of my good judgement was probably stopping an NPC-Server once when some guy was going rampant and trying to delete scripts (stopped him after two) when I lacked the ability to ban/disconnect.

However, the examples of my bad judgement are obviously more documented/well known.

Rufus 03-17-2008 01:55 AM

You have an avatar supporting votes for Bush, that right there is a good example of your judgment!

p2p_Sir_Link 03-17-2008 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1380140)
You have an avatar supporting votes for Bush, that right there is a good example of your judgment!

Thank you for the stamp of approval. did anyone else fail to find his post funny?

xAzerothx 03-17-2008 01:57 AM

I think that was a bad thing.

Darlene159 03-17-2008 01:57 AM

I personally, have never liked your attitude on classic towards people, and you have been banned several times on the forums for things such as sexual harrassment, and your account was one of the accounts disabled when people were making hateful goodbye threads against Graal.

Big NO from me

p2p_Sir_Link 03-17-2008 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1380143)
I personally, have never liked your attitude on classic towards people, and you have been banned several times on the forums for things such as sexual harrassment, and your account was one of the accounts disabled when people were making hateful goodbye threads against Graal.

Big NO from me

The GraalOnline forums and the GraalOnline game are seperate entities.

Darlene159 03-17-2008 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link (Post 1380144)
The GraalOnline forums and the GraalOnline game are seperate entities.

Not a good response, but anyway....from what I
have seen, you act no different here then you do in game.

p2p_Sir_Link 03-17-2008 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1380146)
Not a good response, but anyway....from what I
have seen, you act no different here then you do in game.

I had no idea that you were grand arbitrator of what makes up "good response"s, but I'll just ignore that for now.

if I act no different here then I do in game, then I've pretty much been inactive for what, the past year?

BigBear3 03-17-2008 02:06 AM

Kevin Azite? The whole world would be a better place if Kevin Azite disappeared... not just these forums.

p2p_Sir_Link 03-17-2008 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBear3 (Post 1380150)
Kevin Azite? The whole world would be a better place if Kevin Azite disappeared... not just these forums.

:D

Door 03-17-2008 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link (Post 1380144)
The GraalOnline forums and the GraalOnline game are separate entities.

Don't be modest now Kevin, you've done much worse in game! :p

Seriously though, I actually do like your scripting idea. As someone who can't script, I find this really attractive. I think carrying it out would alone yield toonns of new, great playerworlds that wouldn't otherwise exist.

Just wish you'd been more serious in the rest of your app, you perhaps could have gained more respect and attention for your idea. :p

xAzerothx 03-17-2008 02:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBear3 (Post 1380150)
Kevin Azite? The whole world would be a better place if Kevin Azite disappeared... not just these forums.

Why? I've only seen one flaw in his character. He likes Bush...

Darlene159 03-17-2008 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link (Post 1380149)
I had no idea that you were grand arbitrator of what makes up "good response"s, but I'll just ignore that for now.

if I act no different here then I do in game, then I've pretty much been inactive for what, the past year?

I gave my input. The reasons you were banned here were pretty bad, and it doesn't matter to me if it were yesterday, or last year. What I look for is how many, and for what. IMO, you would be a terrible choice for this job, sorry

p2p_Sir_Link 03-17-2008 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1380161)
I gave my input. The reasons you were banned here were pretty bad, and it doesn't matter to me if it were yesterday, or last year. What I look for is how many, and for what. IMO, you would be a terrible choice for this job, sorry

"How to quit a playerworld"

Darlene159 03-17-2008 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link (Post 1380165)
"How to quit a playerworld"

That's one of several reasons, yes

p2p_Sir_Link 03-17-2008 02:21 AM

Okay, but in the end I'll leave it to HoudiniMan and the other PWA's more solid judgement to decide.

TSAdmin 03-17-2008 03:06 AM

Darlene - Give yourself an infraction for talking about bans ;) :p

I'd leave a comment relating to the application, but I'd prefer not to make comments for/against other applicants :) Good luck.

TheFisherman 03-17-2008 04:03 AM

Approval.

Horrified 03-17-2008 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSAdmin (Post 1380186)
Darlene - Give yourself an infraction for talking about bans ;) :p

I'd leave a comment relating to the application, but I'd prefer not to make comments for/against other applicants :) Good luck.

Haha, I'm the same way. If you're an applicant and go around ranting on other's applications, you really do look like an idiot. Not like I haven't done that enough already.

apparentally though, if everything you say isn't 100 percent serious, it's a no-go for approval from the public though.

[email protected] 03-17-2008 06:18 PM

Vocabulary of a young man, attitude of a 10 year old.

p2p_Sir_Link 03-17-2008 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1380161)
I gave my input. The reasons you were banned here were pretty bad, and it doesn't matter to me if it were yesterday, or last year. What I look for is how many, and for what. IMO, you would be a terrible choice for this job, sorry

Rule 6<B>.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159
Notice to all moderators of these forums
I will not have moderators of these forums that break the rules they are supposed to enforce.
If you want to moderate here, read the rules, know them, follow them, and enforce them, or you will be removed.

I will not have moderators that disrespect members.
I will not have moderators that call members names.
I will not have moderators that argue with members in open forum.
I will not have moderators that cannot try to be helpful.
etc.....

Questions? Forum PM me. Do not start a thread about this issue.

:confused:

Darlene159 03-17-2008 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link (Post 1380377)
Rule 6<B>.



:confused:

This is an app for a global position. The banning on the forums is valid input, so what is your point?

Nabru 03-17-2008 10:52 PM

Never, I would sooner die than you be a global of some sort.

p2p_Sir_Link 03-18-2008 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1380417)
This is an app for a global position. The banning on the forums is valid input, so what is your point?

following your philosophy, should it not be handled by PM?

:asleep:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nabru (Post 1380419)
Never, I would sooner die than you be a global of some sort.

calm down guy, it's a game.

Darlene159 03-18-2008 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link (Post 1380455)
following your philosophy, should it not be handled by PM?

:asleep:


No, since the applications are public to get peoples opinions. the opinions should be based on important things, and behavior on the forums is important.
I am the forums Admin, and I have the info to share. I can make a decision to make an exception because I deem it important, and Unixmad trusts me to do that

Quote:

Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link (Post 1380455)


calm down guy, it's a game.

Is this going to be your reply to pwa issues?

p2p_Sir_Link 03-18-2008 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1380473)
No, since the applications are public to get peoples opinions. the opinions should be based on important things, and behavior on the forums is important.

Your opinion however, is based on information that is privy to the public, and is supposed to remain so. As I read in the rules, there is to be no discussion of bans, and now I feel that Graal Online has violated its agreement with me by violating its own rules.

Quote:

I am the forums Admin, and I have the info to share. I can make a decision to make an exception because I deem it important, and Unixmad trusts me to do that
so in other words, its acceptable for GraalOnline to renege on its own rules at any time? Seems kind of unfair to the players, and I still feel as if my privacy has been greatly violated by your choice to be liberal about my previous
bans.

Quote:

Originally Posted by unixmad (Post 1368019)
Threads are public and everyone can give feedback about what he/she think about someone. Feedback need to be about skills and not about personal attacks.

Also, what skill of mine are you commenting on? My skill to get banned? Seems more of a personal attack than a legitimate criticism of my ability to assist/administer Playerworlds.

Darlene159 03-18-2008 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link (Post 1380477)
Your opinion however, is based on information that is privy to the public, and is supposed to remain so. As I read in the rules, there is to be no discussion of bans, and now I feel that Graal Online has violated its agreement with me by violating its own rules.



so in other words, its acceptable for GraalOnline to renege on its own rules at any time? Seems kind of unfair to the players, and I still feel as if my privacy has been greatly violated by your choice to be liberal about my previous bans.

I am done trying to explain it to you....I'm not going to debate it, or argue with you. Read the forum rules in their entirety.

p2p_Sir_Link 03-18-2008 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1380480)
I am done trying to explain it to you....I'm not going to debate it, or argue with you. Read the forum rules in their entirety.

I took about a minute or so to skim the rules once again, and funnily enough, I cannot find any sort of immunity clause for admins/moderators in the rules.


EDIT: missed this part

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159
Is this going to be your reply to pwa issues?

I'd expect it to be reasonable of any PWA to attempt to calm down a disgruntled player who was threatening suicide over Graal.

I guess you, on the otherhand, would wish to encourage some sort of lawsuit...

TheFisherman 03-18-2008 02:36 AM

leave him alone darlene

Twinny 03-18-2008 02:49 AM

She did it for alot of us and it seems part of the process. If you're exceedingly embarrased about your forum doings, you should probably not apply. Why question when the moderators make exceptions to the rules?

James 03-18-2008 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link (Post 1380477)
Your opinion however, is based on information that is privy to the public, and is supposed to remain so. As I read in the rules, there is to be no discussion of bans, and now I feel that Graal Online has violated its agreement with me by violating its own rules.

so in other words, its acceptable for GraalOnline to renege on its own rules at any time? Seems kind of unfair to the players, and I still feel as if my privacy has been greatly violated by your choice to be liberal about my previous
bans.

While you are absolutely 100 percent correct in your statement, in my personal opinion I think it should be acceptable to bring things like banning up when you're applying for a global position. It's relevant information.

It's exactly like a background check when you apply for a real job.

p2p_Sir_Link 03-18-2008 02:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James (Post 1380490)
While you are absolutely 100 percent correct in your statement, in my personal opinion I think it should be acceptable to bring things like banning up when you're applying for a global position. It's relevant information.

It's exactly like a background check when you apply for a real job.

Background checks are typically not released to the public. If she had a legitimate concern over my bans, rather than trying to tarnish my image to the public, she should have forwarded her concerns to the potential employer.

Darlene159 03-18-2008 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link (Post 1380492)
Background checks are typically not released to the public. If she had a legitimate concern over my bans, rather than trying to tarnish my image to the public, she should have forwarded her concerns to the potential employer.

Yes, and typically applications are not public

BigBear3 03-18-2008 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159 (Post 1380495)
Yes, and typically applications are not public

Good point but I completely disagree. He should be checked privately so he has a chance to explain things before it goes out to the public.

James 03-18-2008 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p2p_Sir_Link (Post 1380492)
Background checks are typically not released to the public. If she had a legitimate concern over my bans, rather than trying to tarnish my image to the public, she should have forwarded her concerns to the potential employer.

Your image isn't going to be tarnished. You have a few nay-sayers, wait for people that support you to post. I guarantee your application is mainly what is looked at anyway. Public opinion really isn't going to matter here because no one has any rights on this forum anyway. The moderators and admins decide what is right from wrong in all cases.

HoudiniMan will probably choose the person with the most credentials. Don't sweat over it.

I vote for the president that I want, not that somebody else wants.

Twinny 03-18-2008 03:28 AM

Show that you handle criticism well: not attack the source.

cbk1994 03-18-2008 03:50 AM

Well, if you look at this as a job ...

However, I would look at it more of applying for mayor or something. Really we have a community, and when there is a person running for mayor, the public definitely knows about it.

This isn't some person being hired at some random company that only matters to them.


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