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Knight 10-26-2007 06:36 AM

Trading in Zone
 
Will trading ever be allowed in Zone? I mean I've played Zone and it seems like trading should be allowed, it seems pretty dumb that this already hasn't been implemented...

SayianOozaru 10-26-2007 09:01 AM

its been asked for, and will not happen - send a message to stefan about it if you want. its already been posted before, and nothing came of it.

anubis_wing 10-26-2007 11:09 AM

I don't see how trading would be a good idea, I can just see bad reasons.

Dante_P2P 10-26-2007 01:32 PM

Trading on Zone+Az's USD=He gets BPS, So therefore No. :D

DuBsTeRmAn 10-26-2007 02:03 PM

Trading on zone will be unfair. Then will the good players win much events and get Reapers/Bluepistols/Redpistols and give them to their friends. So i dont think its a very good idea.

Crow 10-26-2007 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DuBsTeRmAn (Post 1354751)
Trading on zone will be unfair. Then will the good players win much events and get Reapers/Bluepistols/Redpistols and give them to their friends. So i dont think its a very good idea.

You are just saying that because you dont have any friends :<

Admins 10-26-2007 02:54 PM

Most items on Zone require some skill to get (event types by winning events, trader items by getting money by killing players), so it wouldn't be could to trade them. The Gelat items cannot be trade to prevent scams. So I don't think that trading would make a lot of sense on Zone.

Crow 10-26-2007 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1354757)
Most items on Zone require some skill to get (event types by winning events, trader items by getting money by killing players), so it wouldn't be could to trade them. The Gelat items cannot be trade to prevent scams. So I don't think that trading would make a lot of sense on Zone.

Trading money maybe? :P
I would like to give some money to my friends ;D

Tracker180 10-26-2007 05:01 PM

nah, if trading was enabled, people would trade stuff from a certain event to another and it'd be unfair

Knight 10-26-2007 05:10 PM

Yes, people would trade and others would get an unfair advantage... Are you forgetting this happens in EVERY video game?

Tracker180 10-26-2007 05:22 PM

yes, well it's also what's seperating us from Era

Crono 10-26-2007 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight (Post 1354716)
Will trading ever be allowed in Zone? I mean I've played Zone and it seems like trading should be allowed

i dont like this idea

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it seems pretty dumb that this already hasn't been implemented...
...why?

Knight 10-26-2007 07:00 PM

Well just about every other multi-player game has trading, why exclude Zone?

Crow 10-26-2007 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight (Post 1354776)
Well just about every other multi-player game has trading, why exclude Zone?

Why not be different :f

pooper200000 10-26-2007 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight (Post 1354716)
Will trading ever be allowed in Zone? I mean I've played Zone and it seems like trading should be allowed, it seems pretty dumb that this already hasn't been implemented...

The problem is this. If they have trading what will be traded.Ok so I want to trade money. Ok so I give you money. Why would I give you money? Most people would do it so others could buy weapons. What is there that you honestly can't attain already by working a bit? There is nothign that costs that much money. The only thing that will be accomplished is trials will gain P2P weapons and and/or gelats. It would cheat one system or the other. It just won't be added there are too many reasons not to and too few reasons to do it.

xAzerothx 10-26-2007 09:04 PM

Zone needs expensive houses! Your own personal training quarters.

Crow 10-26-2007 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xAzerothx (Post 1354790)
Zone needs expensive houses! Your own personal training quarters.

Or missions. Maybe that would be pretty good, since they were promised for a long time now...

Knight 10-26-2007 09:07 PM

Well what if they made trading a Zone Gold benefit?

pooper200000 10-26-2007 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight (Post 1354793)
Well what if they made trading a Zone Gold benefit?

It would still cheat the gelat and event weapons system. It just won't be added. There are way too many reasons not to and way to few reasons to do such.

Switch 10-26-2007 09:49 PM

Really, there used to be reasons why to trade and I brought it to Sayian's attention to tell Stefan (this was before V5 and Sayian still loved Graal) but now there really isnt besides to give people an advantage

Crono 10-26-2007 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight (Post 1354776)
Well just about every other multi-player game has trading, why exclude Zone?

Counterstrike has a trading system? Wow.

Also, I know you didn't play Graal before Graal2001's trading system became a mainstream thing...

SayianOozaru 10-26-2007 10:06 PM

Trading wouldn't be that bad of an idea. If you guys would just stop and think.

If Event Weapons were tradable, there would be no difference between how many are out there - there would still be the same amount in the game, just different players would have them, instead of the same people.

If Gelat Items were tradable, there would be no difference of how many are out. Someone would still be paying for them. And there would still only be so many out.

You guys simply think of "I R B LEET, NO ONE BEAT ME". You care to much about new players getting items and ****. You guys are really WAY to into the game, if you don't want new players having some decent items. Apparently ya'll are to caught up in "I R NO WANT 2 DIE BY NEWBS" to think about what it was like before you had any event items, and how badly you wanted them.

Crono 10-26-2007 10:11 PM

What people don't realize is that Zone was never an economic server, which is what most of Graal sort of turned into over the years.

Tracker180 10-26-2007 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1354805)
What people don't realize is that Zone was never an economic server, which is what most of Graal sort of turned into over the years.

I agree, if you want to argue, look at GK, it was made to be an RP server but it turned into an economic server

Admins 10-26-2007 11:05 PM

Well trading items on Zone would be like trading exp on Kingdoms, it cannot work, at least not with the items that are online right now.

Crono 10-26-2007 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Tracker180 (Post 1354814)
I agree, if you want to argue, look at GK, it was made to be an RP server but it turned into an economic server

No it wasn't. RPing was never enforced, you can't call a server an RP server if there wasn't any effort to make people RP to begin with.

GK's preview was like normal Graal, but after that it was economic since (if I remember correctly) it was g2k1's sequal (which was economic).

Dante_P2P 10-26-2007 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru (Post 1354804)
Trading wouldn't be that bad of an idea. If you guys would just stop and think.

Actually, Yes it would.

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If Event Weapons were tradable, there would be no difference between how many are out there - there would still be the same amount in the game, just different players would have them, instead of the same people.
Please tell me you were high when you posted this, In this case, It doesn't matter about how many people have them. Its about how they get it, They're named Event Weapons for a reason Sayian. Not just some damn I R LOOKIN 2 BUY BPS/RPS/REAPS!!!!!11 :\

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If Gelat Items were tradable, there would be no difference of how many are out. Someone would still be paying for them. And there would still only be so many out.
Retarded. Gelats or whatever are meant to be bought with real money, Not damn cash. This would cut profits for them down by a whole much, Say Az for example. Look how much cash he owns. He could buy tons without spending a damn penny :\ Please think this is not just a game also a Business for god sakes.

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You guys simply think of "I R B LEET, NO ONE BEAT ME". You care to much about new players getting items and ****. You guys are really WAY to into the game, if you don't want new players having some decent items. Apparently ya'll are to caught up in "I R NO WANT 2 DIE BY NEWBS" to think about what it was like before you had any event items, and how badly you wanted them.
Sayian, they're called Gamers, We want new people to enjoy this game but not hand everything the **** out to them.

Googi 10-26-2007 11:37 PM

Zone doesn't really have a variety of items large enough to have a trading system. What are you going to do, trade event items for Zone money? I don't think so. I guess you could trade event items for gelat items, but mostly it would probably be used for USDing.

seanthien 10-27-2007 12:27 AM

Zone + Trading = No. Zone doesn't realy have anything to realy trade besides special weapons like, event weapons,holiday weapons..

Besides people like az and steve with 300k moneh. = lame.

Dante_P2P 10-27-2007 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1354830)
Besides people like az and steve with 300k moneh. = lame.

Point out what i already said? ;)

seanthien 10-27-2007 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by xAzerothx (Post 1354790)
Zone needs expensive houses! Your own personal training quarters.

Ya, I want my own planet so i can go /kick ( person i don't like ) and be like ''GET OFF MY PLANET BISH''
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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1354792)
Or missions. Maybe that would be pretty good, since they were promised for a long time now...

That would give me something to do..
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Originally Posted by Dante_P2P (Post 1354846)
Point out what i already said? ;)

Nah, you said az = Usd nub.

Knight 10-27-2007 05:47 AM

I still think it would be great idea, yeah missions would be cool too. Gelat items would be tradeable except with the time limit being tagged on each... Anyways trading could be a feature for Zone Gold only. I don't think many would be willing to pay USD. The people who are into Zone enough to pay USD have everything they need. Look around most players have 80 health for a reason!

blazeingonix 10-27-2007 12:41 PM

I wishhhhhhhhhh i can get my p2p accounttttttttttttttttttt but nothingggggggg!

Knightmare1 10-27-2007 02:12 PM

lol if this works im giving my trial a photon.

UnknownMasterMind 10-27-2007 02:19 PM

Trading + Zone = ... It just won't work.

Knight 10-27-2007 04:35 PM

What makes me laugh is I know some of you are going against this even though you want it, I won't name names but that is pretty sad seeing as a few of you agreed with me. What if you are busy doing something yet you want mines set? You can give them to your friend... What if someone needs a med kid or cookie? There are multiple situations...

xAzerothx 10-27-2007 04:47 PM

I'd sell cookies on Iricia for $100 each.

Tracker180 10-27-2007 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Knightmare1 (Post 1354891)
lol if this works im giving my trial a photon.

I'm a trial with a jetpack, blue rifle, red rifle, candy cane, carrot, two magnums, and dual shotguns :D

Knight 10-27-2007 05:21 PM

Unless it is a P2P only feature...?

UnknownMasterMind 10-27-2007 05:39 PM

I think what the general idea is, trading on Zone would lead to corruption, and yes USDing. I bet you 10 to 1, that at least 1 person will get an Event Weapon thru Trade the first day they probably make it. And also, alot of scams would be pulled off, i.e. trading 1 month magnums for Carrot or something, and they lie and say its the X-Mas Magnums (Keep Forever). I would however like the ability to give money to another person that would be nice.


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