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seanthien 08-26-2007 09:34 PM

New Rules?
 
Notice, I will try not to flame/spam anyone on here. So you shouldn't either.


I think zone event's need new rules seeing as how Anoobie's event went.+ With the new changes in v5.

Ex. In Anoobies event, he made the weapon apripper, But trials cannot use aprippers, can they? No, They can't use all weapons.

Ex. If anoobie, had chosen apps, like he said. Then trials would still have to deal with observer,So should they be ALLOWED to play?

I think Et's should ALL follow under 1 ruling, Not make up there own.

Any ideas/Is this a good idea?

pooper200000 08-26-2007 09:38 PM

Its up to the ET hosting. They follow most of the same guidelines but it is there interpretation of how it should be enforced is what I think you are questioning. About Anubis hosting with appripers. It is up to him what weapon he hosts with it doesn't matter if trials can use it or not. Trials are now kicked from events by the server if they go into observer mode now I believe. A trial can upgrade if they don't want to be kicked by observer mode.

Black_Wallstreet 08-26-2007 09:42 PM

An ET may choose his/her own rules as long as they are not abusive. Everyone is entitled to join/play in the event unless other-wise stated.

seanthien 08-26-2007 09:49 PM

That's why, They make there own rules >> Kinda confusing to me.

Come on, Each week, a event weapon is hosted,correct?

Most likely different ets. They all normaly use the same ''No running,Hiding,Teaming. Holding A is hiding'' Or somewhat near that. And repeat. But i seen jesse and anoobie host. And they want the last 2 people to spar fair, not lame, and no healing.

I dont consider that right x-x. I mean, if you dont use alot of meds and you make it to the very end. Whats the point for them. In most other events that have been in,the rules were just Last man standing and new running hiding etc.

Black_Wallstreet 08-26-2007 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1343409)
That's why, They make there own rules >> Kinda confusing to me.

Come on, Each week, a event weapon is hosted,correct?

Most likely different ets. They all normaly use the same ''No running,Hiding,Teaming. Holding A is hiding'' Or somewhat near that. And repeat. But i seen jesse and anoobie host. And they want the last 2 people to spar fair, not lame, and no healing.

I dont consider that right x-x. I mean, if you dont use alot of meds and you make it to the very end. Whats the point for them. In most other events that have been in,the rules were just Last man standing and new running hiding etc.

Here would be my rules:

-No Hiding
-No Teaming
-Running is acceptable
-Each player may heal
-The last 4 players in the event will spar fairly.
Example:
A vs B
A wins
C vs D
C wins
A vs C
A wins
Winner takes home the prize.

seanthien 08-26-2007 09:56 PM

x_x, Spar Fairly, But healing during the spar should be ok.

Ex. I used all the normal meds, Its me and jin left in a event. He has no meds, but i can still hurt him little by little. But wait, Whats this?! I have my easter eggs!

Deathmatch = LastManStanding,Its all about being able to stay alive longer.Not ''Who has the most skill?(Aka Spar Tourny)''.

xAzerothx 08-26-2007 10:05 PM

You'd waste your Easter Eggs...and have Jin still kill you? All of the ETs should be able to set their own rules as it's their event.

seanthien 08-26-2007 10:09 PM

No, i might have a chance of winning? Thats like what, Lets say 500hp vs 100hp. I woudl have a chance though he has more skil.

Ex: If that kid from the 2nd round rehost yesterday had meds, and could heal, He prob could of owned me, and won rps.

dude2020 08-26-2007 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black_Wallstreet (Post 1343412)
Here would be my rules:

-No Hiding
-No Teaming
-Running is acceptable
-Each player may heal
-The last 4 players in the event will spar fairly.
Example:
A vs B
A wins
C vs D
C wins
A vs C
A wins
Winner takes home the prize.

I like those rules cept Running.

seanthien 08-26-2007 10:13 PM

v.v, Can no one agree with me? >>. Most likely anyone that post in this thread so far, can own everyone of those nubs on zone in a spar. I mean, i barely play anymore and won without even useing half my meds.

Black_Wallstreet 08-26-2007 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAzerothx (Post 1343421)
You'd waste your Easter Eggs...and have Jin still kill you? All of the ETs should be able to set their own rules as it's their event.

I love you like Sean loves cake.

Quote:

I like those rules cept Running.
John agreed with me! Omgosh <3

Anyways, running to an extent. If the player just runs around in circles the whole match, than I would eventually warn him.

dude2020 08-26-2007 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black_Wallstreet (Post 1343439)
Anyways, running to an extent. If the player just runs around in circles the whole match, than I would eventually warn him.

I'd do sort of the samething. If i catch them running ill give them a warning, If i catch them again ill just kick them :P

seanthien 08-26-2007 10:23 PM

.. Thats what all et's do. o.o, Backstrifing is a way of running <<. John ;)

Still, It shouldnt be hosted on ''DeathMatch'' then if they have to ''fairly spar'' :l.

Huwajux 08-26-2007 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1343396)
Notice, I will try not to flame/spam anyone on here. So you shouldn't either.

Good idea!
Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1343396)
Anoobie's Anoobies anoobie

Didn't last long, did it?

This is just another thread for you using some lame excuse to try and get things your way again. The events are hard to get used to now since we have to limit the weapons used drastically because of this new V5 thing. Suck it up mate. Trials shouldn't even be able to compete in events so we are doing them a favour. Now reply in a sensible manner to prevent me from having to lock this thread.

seanthien 08-26-2007 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1343445)
Good idea!

Didn't last long, did it?

This is just another thread for you using some lame excuse to try and get things your way again. The events are hard to get used to now since we have to limit the weapons used drastically because of this new V5 thing. Suck it up mate. Trials shouldn't even be able to compete in events so we are doing them a favour. Now reply in a sensible manner to prevent me from having to lock this thread.

o.o,In a way it is, and thats what i call him?

Heres how i see it

Person that has played longer and more skilled vs someone who has some skill and hasnt played long.

Who's gonna win? x_x, Duh, you should know, Healing alot is the only way the person with less skill is EVER gonna win a event.

Huwajux 08-26-2007 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1343447)
Person that has played longer and more skilled vs someone who has some skill and hasnt played long.

Who's gonna win? x_x, Duh, you should know, Healing alot is the only way the person with less skill is EVER gonna win a event.

Why should someone who has been playing for less than their opponent win the prize instead? If there is a skilled player then surely he deserves the prize?

seanthien 08-26-2007 10:35 PM

At this rate, I'll win everything to ez >>. The p2ps that play the events aren't realy.. ''good'' I'd rather have typhoon in my events that i play again to make it more fun.

Ya.. i don't feel like i realy ''won'' those rps. <<

EDIT:Huwa,this gives people that REALY suck a chance.

If there are certain people in line that are most likely gonna win the events, and you BARELY have a chance, whats the point of trying? You need to give them more of a chance to win. ''Balance'' zone events.

Huwajux 08-26-2007 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1343457)
Huwa,this gives people that REALY suck a chance.

If there are certain people in line that are most likely gonna win the events, and you BARELY have a chance, whats the point of trying? You need to give them more of a chance to win. ''Balance'' zone events.

If they 'suck' then they don't deserve the prize.

dude2020 08-26-2007 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1343463)
If they 'suck' then they don't deserve the prize.

So if the person who is better than the other kill thereself shouldn't the weaker person get the prize?

Huwajux 08-26-2007 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1343465)
So if the person who is better than the other kill thereself shouldn't the weaker person get the prize?

Depends why they killed themself.

seanthien 08-26-2007 10:44 PM

The better person that went sucide was pretty stupid then. xP

Huwa if they ''suck'' then they dont deserve a prize? Com'on before this, People that ''suck'' got prizes. But now with the ets that hosting make the 2 ''fairly spar'' and not being able to heal at the end no one that ''suck'' is gonna get a prize most likely.

Huwajux 08-26-2007 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1343469)
But now with the ets that hosting make the 2 ''fairly spar'' and not being able to heal at the end no one that ''suck'' is gonna get a prize most likely.

Then that's fairness in all its glory. Can I go home now?

seanthien 08-26-2007 10:47 PM

How is that ''fair'' ;-;.You mine as well host a spar tourny for the event weapons.

Huwajux 08-26-2007 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1343474)
How is that ''fair'' ;-;.You mine as well host a spar tourny for the event weapons.

*Sigh* It's fair because the better player won the event! Is it really that hard to understand?

seanthien 08-26-2007 11:07 PM

How do i put this..

Ok a skilled and not-so-skilled person are playing.

With the current ''Spar'' and ''no healing'' rules, The skilled person has a oh lets say, 70 percent chance to win.

While the Not as skill person has 20 percent chance, With the 10 percent chance that its a rehost/they both died at the SAME time.

With the all out, healing and no sparring, It raises the not so skilled persons chance of winning by what? 10 percent?

IF you think, 70 percent is fair to 20, Something is wrong.

UnknownMasterMind 08-27-2007 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1343409)
And they want the last 2 people to spar fair, not lame, and no healing.

Thats been a rule for a long time, I mean a long time its almost like a "Bolded" ET Rule. You tell me the ET who does not make the last two people fight one on one, no healing, running, and laming.

Also ask yourself, do you think it is right that when their are 3 people left, that after Player A and B fight, A wins and as soon as B's death Gani plays, Player C lames A and takes the prize? One more thing, I think they make the Rule so that someone doesn't win the Prize out of sheer dumb luck, it is possiable for someone to avoid fighting the whole match, and then be in the last three and not be chosen to fight, but the that one rule would stop them from being able to win as they would have to fight agianst someone who beat all the rest or at least enough to live.

Also Sean look at it this way, their is an Event once a Week eventually everyone will have a prize.

anubis_wing 08-27-2007 03:39 AM

2 words Sean.
Screw You
The reason I made it Aprippers is because YOU and John were going on trials and intended on ruining it for other players, just like you did the night before except you were on your p2p's you couldn't win Rps again so you made it so your friend could win by killing everyone else.
Then there's the fact that people with the event weapon shouldn't be able to fight at all. So, there's another reason I wanted to host it.
I intended on using appirces until you and john ruined it.
My normal rules are:
If caught teaming I will kick you, I say if I catch because it's too much of a headache dealing with "oh my gosh lolz he teamed me" teaming includes attacking when it's obvious 2 others are fighting, I don't care if they accidentally hit you, then move away
Healing is fine until the last 2 people
The last 2 people must do a fair spar and not lame or begin without each being at the health they can get to with what healing items they can get up to
It's ok to run but excessive runners will be kicked an example would be running continuously to avoid someone in a fight or fighting all together
No hiding

bahamutstevetff 08-27-2007 03:44 AM

screw trials, if they cant pay, why should they be given a fair chance in events

anubis_wing 08-27-2007 03:45 AM

I think the exact way but Tenchry who thinks that the trials who USED to make the backbone of the Zone society should be given better treatment.

bahamutstevetff 08-27-2007 03:50 AM

tenchry is a freak and a half

Black_Wallstreet 08-27-2007 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anubis_wing (Post 1343568)
I think the exact way but Tenchry who thinks that the trials who USED to make the backbone of the Zone society should be given better treatment.

Trial's did make the backbone of Zone.
Think about it, as soon as rules came into affect.
Gang's died
Trial's left
The playercount lowered

bahamutstevetff 08-27-2007 04:01 AM

trils where just the p2ps toys

seanthien 08-27-2007 04:15 AM

Ok, to go on with the offtopic subject, Most p2ps are friends, so, without trials then you would'nt have much people to kill, Trials on the other hand, aren't like that, they dont NEED p2ps to own them.

Screw me?I said no flame what so ever. No frieza, it wasn't always like that it wasn't a ''rule'' its just what people mainly did sometimes, and Healing WAS allowed, so was p2p with the event weapon being able to play. Typhoon raped me outta most of mine.

So, you guys want for trials to have the lower advantage in EVERYYTHINg? Are you trying to kill zone?

anubis_wing 08-27-2007 04:16 AM

No flaming eh, so you make a mawkery of my name and expect me not to retaliate?

Black_Wallstreet 08-27-2007 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1343583)
Are you trying to kill zone?

Zone died along time ago honey.

seanthien 08-27-2007 04:23 AM

That's not flame though. >> Anoobie. ]:

Nah, >> ZOne still has a decent ammount of people i guess.. on here when i mean kill i mean like, no trials, just p2p on zone ''talking'' because there all ''friends''.

Black_Wallstreet 08-27-2007 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanthien (Post 1343589)
That's not flame though. >> Anoobie. ]:

Nah, >> ZOne still has a decent ammount of people i guess.. on here when i mean kill i mean like, no trials, just p2p on zone ''talking'' because there all ''friends''.

Currently, Zone has 10-12 people on it, which is the second lowest amoung Classic/Gold servers.

bahamutstevetff 08-27-2007 04:25 AM

ive seen an increse lately

seanthien 08-27-2007 04:28 AM

Ya, but thats on event days, Which realy dont count if there gone the next day.

bahamutstevetff 08-27-2007 04:29 AM

there was 32 on about an hour ago


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