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SayianOozaru 05-28-2007 06:27 AM

Body Armour?
 
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I know its been brought up before, but I was thinking about it on my 2 day break, and thought I would make something.

The image that this is based off of is found on Zone, but was never used for anything important. Let me know if you can figure out what I made this from. :P

And please don't move this, as I want a discussion about if people feel body armour would fit in with Zone. I only made the graphic to show what we could use for 1.

Anyways, I was thinking we could have body armour that was like;

Name: Body Armour
Type: (equip)
Cost: 10k
Description: adds 50 hp to the user, only able to use it once until you get back to the dropship. (meaning when its 50 hp is gone, it doesn't show up in your menu until you either die, or warp back to the dropship)

(it would just show up over whatever the user is already wearing)
Lemme know what you guys think. :)

xAzerothx 05-28-2007 06:29 AM

50 hp...I could stand a lot more bullets that way. I don't think it would be very fashionable with my current attire though.

SayianOozaru 05-28-2007 06:32 AM

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Well, this is basically what you would look like (minus head+arms+legs) when wearing it. :P

anubis_wing 05-28-2007 11:56 AM

Well, you could hide it under your shirt then have a little icon above your head saying that this person currently is protected by body armor.

Huwajux 05-28-2007 04:25 PM

No, body armor isn't something that would work on Zone.

kia345 05-28-2007 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1312640)
No, body armor isn't something that would work on Zone.

Because in a universe were gun violence settles everything no one needs a bullet proof vest.

Huwajux 05-28-2007 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1312643)
Because in a universe were gun violence settles everything no one needs a bullet proof vest.

I am talking about it's style of play. 50hp is a lot and if any of the "Elite" players get their hands on this armor then there is no stopping them.

kia345 05-28-2007 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1312646)
I am talking about it's style of play. 50hp is a lot and if any of the "Elite" players get their hands on this armor then there is no stopping them.

A decent solution: The lower your rank, the more armour it gives you.

Example:
New Recruit- 50
Veteran- 20
Warrior- 10
Elite- 5
Legend- You don't get ****

dude2020 05-28-2007 04:59 PM

10k? for one? You better be able to re use it :/

xAzerothx 05-28-2007 07:01 PM

Maybe the armor should just add 5 hp. It would still be useful.

SayianOozaru 05-28-2007 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux
I am talking about it's style of play. 50hp is a lot and if any of the "Elite" players get their hands on this armor then there is no stopping them.

Its just like using 2 medkits, except it would only be able to be used once per life.

ceserthen 05-28-2007 07:11 PM

once the the 50 is set to everypoint you lose of the 50 can't be refurbished. ex: you get hurt to 135 you can only go back up to 135, then you get hit to 85, you can only go back up to 100. hope it makes sense

Switch 05-28-2007 07:13 PM

It'd be awesome xD
Oh, it was used form the icon in the Q menu, DUH!!!

SayianOozaru 05-28-2007 07:15 PM

I was thinking no healing while you using it, yes.

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Originally Posted by Switch
Oh, it was used form the icon in the Q menu, DUH!!!

I guess your the only one that figured that out, lol.

Crono 05-28-2007 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1312643)
Because in a universe were gun violence settles everything no one needs a bullet proof vest.

Yeah, no ones had time to come up with such technology. Everyone would rather focus on better weapons than armor cuz n00bs r 2 ez.

Darkdemon452 05-29-2007 12:58 AM

p2p:150 h
trial:80 h

so yea almost double the trial health they would never kill a p2p with armor

SayianOozaru 05-29-2007 01:00 AM

I don't think I've seen a trial fight one on one in forever, unless I'm laming of course. Then if I don't kill them fast enough, there ends up being like 12 newbs shooting me.

pooper200000 05-29-2007 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru (Post 1312767)
I don't think I've seen a trial fight one on one in forever, unless I'm laming of course. Then if I don't kill them fast enough, there ends up being like 12 newbs shooting me.

the point is that it is an unfair advantage. Even with two trials teaming it would be unfair. Thats literally both of their health and you probaly have meds and better weapons and more experience......

SayianOozaru 05-29-2007 01:03 AM

It would be unfair, but trials get to play for free, while we have to pay. $40 a year for 20 hp and like 6 weapons? Thats unfair.

Crono 05-29-2007 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkdemon452 (Post 1312764)
p2p:150 h
trial:80 h

so yea almost double the trial health they would never kill a p2p with armor

Not our problem is it?

SayianOozaru 05-29-2007 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami
Not our problem is it?

Exactly. You pay for the game, than you get advantages like that.

Its that simple.

Darkdemon452 05-29-2007 01:36 AM

lol@your posts but you do have a point

Googi 05-29-2007 04:37 AM

Even though there's a section for it in the menu, we're probably better off without it, although armour that diminishes in protection the higher your rank could be interesting.

SayianOozaru 05-29-2007 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Googie
although armour that diminishes in protection the higher your rank could be interesting.

That would force players into not playing long, because they would want to keep the same amount of protection as they had when they first started. Not to bright an idea to lead players away from playing...

Huwajux 05-29-2007 12:52 PM

lol@Sayianandhispoststhatwillonceagainruinzonethat littlebitmore

It's like the defensive version of the photon cannon!

SayianOozaru 05-29-2007 09:04 PM

No, Its just like 2 medkits that you use to increase your health to 150. That's all it really is.

pooper200000 05-29-2007 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru (Post 1313028)
No, Its just like 2 medkits that you use to increase your health to 150. That's all it really is.

but you can carry medkits with armor so thats another 2 medkits

anubis_wing 05-29-2007 11:02 PM

The armour is ingenious. It gives you real purpose to pay to play as it stands a trial can easily get a p2p, with the armor people would finally be able to say "lol u trial nub". It's a good idea to add 50hp but why not instead have it so it's 15k to buy, and you can only use it once an hour and once it's gone it's gone for an hour, but you can buy repairs to reduce the time like ammo, 1k per 5 mins, lowest you can get it to is 10 minutes. You can also repair it if it isn't broken and you return to the drop ship, you can pay 500 to repair it to full.

SayianOozaru 05-29-2007 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pooper
but you can carry medkits with armor so thats another 2 medkits

But you can't heal until all the health as been drained from the armour.

blazeingonix 05-29-2007 11:18 PM

Its good but...Gona be too hard kill some1 :'(

SayianOozaru 05-29-2007 11:33 PM

You all do realize, 50 hp is;

less than 2 full hits with appirces (72 dmg)
1 plasmasabre cut (52 dmg)
the same as 2 hits with crossbow (48 dmg)
less than 2 hits with redpistole (80 dmg)
less than 2 hits with apripper (80 dmg)
less than 2 cuts with carrot (60 dmg)
less than 2 cuts with muramasa (70 dmg)
about 2 bullets from photon (48 dmg)
5 bullets from smg (50 dmg)
less than 4 shots with lr (60 dmg)

50 hp isn't as much as you guys are making it out to be.

Darkdemon452 05-29-2007 11:39 PM

i can imagine it now

DD is flying on his speeder after killing 20 ppl hes finnaly brought down, damn tazer noobs,but oh look!! he has his armor and kills them then flys away on his jetpack.

I now support this idea :)

SayianOozaru 05-29-2007 11:42 PM

Chances are, the trials will either have a medic or medpacks/cookies/holiday item to heal with.

Huwajux 05-30-2007 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru (Post 1313138)
You all do realize, 50 hp is

Too much to be added onto a P2P. It's basically people with 80% health fighting people with 150% health. Don't add this idea just for the sake of putting armor into the game. It's a terrible idea and will be poorly implemented if it ever reaches Zone.
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Originally Posted by SayianOozaru (Post 1313143)
Chances are, the trials will either have a medic or medpacks/cookies/holiday item to heal with.

And P2P's won't?

kia345 05-30-2007 03:00 PM

Armour shouldn't give you more health, just weaken the blows. Perhaps keep it, but with armour on you only take 15% of the damage you would normally take, and the armour can only last 10 or so hits

Ravenblade1979 05-30-2007 05:09 PM

Also make it realistic...i doubt body armor can stop a plasma sword unless it was body armor made of energy.

anubis_wing 05-30-2007 05:31 PM

Why not change it so you just take 85% of the damage (rounded up) from standard bullets (Ripper, SMG, Apps, etc.) Make 3 sets of armor, one Armor takes standard bullets, one armor takes plasma bullets and the other cuts melee damage by 32%.

Huwajux 05-30-2007 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1313347)
Armour shouldn't give you more health, just weaken the blows. Perhaps keep it, but with armour on you only take 15% of the damage you would normally take, and the armour can only last 10 or so hits

Good idea. Expanding on that, different weapons could be more "piercing" against armors. For example, if hit by an SMG bullet you would only take 50% of the damage. Whereas a chaingun bullet would tear through you doing 75% damage. And the metallicrifle could do 100% ;]

Crono 05-30-2007 07:15 PM

Should be two types of shields, energy and normal physical.

The normal one reduces damage from normal guns/melee by a small bit and the energy shield reduces damage by energy guns/melee by a small bit.

No protection should be supplied against bikes crashing into you, mechs stomping, or explosions.

Darkdemon452 05-30-2007 07:23 PM

Ok just want to get another spelling correction out here its armor not armour


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