Not so good.
 

As Beholder (cling) unfortunately quit, I'd like to make this thread just to thank him for what he all done! ^^

It's a big damper for 2k1, I'm sure... so we can use all the help someone's willing to give. If you wish to be LAT, GAT, NAT or Ganier, simply login and PM me, or add me on msn: [email protected] and I'll try you out! I also have AIM but am rarely on it (IM: Contiga122).

So yeah.. thanks Beholder. :cry:

(to Konidias: If you want to see his message, forum PM me and I'll send it, it's also in your comments btw)

Oh man...:(

Eye is one of the best scripters you could possibly have on any server.

Lol actually he did more ganis and graphics xP
He scripted the Bomberman game tho, I script everything else atm.

beholder is one of the best developers EBAR :o

Contiga you have a weird taste in levels.

Because I say that your levels are ugly, which they are, I have a weird taste in levels?

Sorry, I'm not gonna take you serious.

Out of everyone I've shown my levels to, you're the only one who has said that o.o. I don't think everyone else is wrong

I'm adding you to MSN right now.

Tho it's all really a matter of opinion tho. :p

A lot of people liked my levels, or did when I made them, but some did not. I don't think there is a right or wrong to someone not liking a persons level style, it just varies from a persons personal likes or dislikes.
I have seen levels that I disliked, and a lot of other people loved them, and vice versa. *shrugs*

That's not what we are discussing here tho, I started this thread as sort of "good bye" thread, but still 2k1 related for Beholder. I'm disappointed that people are discussing about warpme2blabla [what's his account]'s levels.

Are you sure that you did daniel_brinkman@msn.com, because the @hotmail.com one is wrong. I didn't get an invitation yet.

I had to leave, so when I added you I signed off pretty quickly. Most likely the request wasn't sent.

You are right. I apologize.

It's part of the discussion though.

No one is really right or wrong.

See, for all we know, you could have shown most of your levels to private servers.

Goes in this order:

Gold servers: EXTREMELY HIGH EXPECTATIONS, GOOD REFERENCES, AWESOME ACTIVITY, AWESOME SKILLS

Classic servers: EXTREMELY HIGH EXPECTATIONS, Fair references, AWESOME ACTIVITY, kickass skils

Hosted servers: High expectations, adequate references,good activity, fair skills

Private servers: Medium expectations, little-to no references, adequate activity, in-training or unskilled.

Unpaid servers: No expectations, no references, no activity, no skills

If you scored a job with a private server, you're not amazing, some private servers range, servers like this one are well known, and have someone like Contiga in there, yeah, its definitely a server thats going to go somewhere.

But I'm going to use an example, a server such as.. Playerworld1337 or KINGDOM LAND PLACE would be a server with small expectations, and would hire anyone to get them some rc's/playercount, and to fill up their ranks, and maybe get a couple crappy jobs out of them before they fire them to make room for another kid.

Maybe the truth hurts ;o

Ok well let's see:

The only private server that saw my levels was Graal2001. Other than that, the servers were on the classic tab.

And it's pretty easy to get a job on a hosted server, about the same as a private one.

Maybe the truth hurts ;o

You're completely wrong man.

Classic servers have high expectations? What the hell are you talking about, do you honestly call UN and Zodiac's levels the result of "high expectations"? Private servers like Graal 2001 (Graal Bomy Moon) have better level quality than a lot of classic servers.

Yeah I could be wrong, I don't hang out on most of the crappier classic servers much;

Usually to get a job on the classic servers, its about er.. "Who you know and who you blow" <- theres the saying for it.

Using a couple servers here, in the past Era has been one of those "friend hire only" servers, etc.

I'm trying to put back into consideration what graal SHOULD have been, and what it WAS a year ago (When I was a hardcore graal player)

Haha speaking about Zodiac.. I remember they hired me (When zod was private) on a stolen script, which was on Zodiac itself.. That was pretty funny.

Yeah I get what your saying, classic servers are starting to have low expectations from their staff, and some of them are owned by people that even JIGGA could do better then..

I guess it really depends on how "old-school" the server is, and if they expect something from you, or just expect you to be a professional idler for the rest of your graal life.

And, honestly warp2,
take in consideration that I'm pointing to private servers that just started, servers that have new management, kids who don't even know what a tryout is.

To put it into easier to comprehend words:

Loel so like I logged on a server yesterday, and said "ned job"
Owner pms me "U WANT JOB"
Im like "YEAH!"
Owner pms back "WAT STAF"
"DEV ADMIN"
"OK DUN TRY UR RC"
"NOT IN SREVER OPS"
"HOW TO DO THAT?"

/\ Theres a good example of poor managers.

I believe I forgot one, but I doubted that many servers did it, so I checked today, and I was wrong :(

Theres also a section called TEMP PRIVATE servers, these are the kind of servers like G2K1, Mal, Babylon, Rudora, etc.

It's basically like limbo, you have a 50-50 chance of getting back to the spot you were at before.
50% you go back,
50% graal finds some noob server to take over.

It depends how fast you act on your server development.

Oh, and don't try to copy something someone says again, it makes you look like jigga, thats the first step to -badrep. :(