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Darklux 01-27-2007 08:44 PM

The Economy
 
If a bug is a small mistake, the economy currently can be compared to this:
The Goliath Bug

Why is this constantly ignored?

Like you can see on my account creation date, iam playing gk since dec 2002, and it gets worse every year, one of the reasons why i currently dont have gold, but vip, because i dont think graal kingdoms is a place worth to play at.

Will something be done about this bug in future?

hampy 01-28-2007 12:11 AM

What do you mean this bug?

cyan3 01-28-2007 12:17 AM

What has the "The Goliath Bug" got to do with GK?

Crimson2005 01-28-2007 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darklux (Post 1270294)
If a bug is a small mistake, the economy currently can be compared to this:
The Goliath Bug

Why is this constantly ignored?

Like you can see on my account creation date, iam playing gk since dec 2002, and it gets worse every year, one of the reasons why i currently dont have gold, but vip, because i dont think graal kingdoms is a place worth to play at.

Will something be done about this bug in future?

WHAT?

kia345 01-28-2007 01:34 AM

like all bugs, it can be fixed with a simple action. step on it.

ReBorn_Spirit 01-28-2007 02:03 PM

heh uhm, uhh how is this economy thread related to the economy?

I don't see it..

I do however know that the economy is driven by rare items and event items. In which case there are not enough events lately. Participate on GK and complain for more events, and quit abusing bugs.

jonnyrocks2 01-28-2007 02:50 PM

Let me clarify it.

What he means is the Diamond bit is getting out of hand, and to what he feels is something needs to be done about it, as to be honest to truly is no economy, just Diamonds for yada yada, Diamonds to do this..blah...blah...

Then again there never was a true economy anyway...

I hope this clarifys what he ment.

cutelilmurderer 01-28-2007 04:40 PM

To be honest if there were to be a diamond shop that sold diamonds for something like 400 platinum coins, that would solve the problem. Or even to go the way of alchemy and restrict their use on the trade tables.

I could just see a flood of angry messages coming from this suggestion though...

kia345 01-28-2007 04:44 PM

i dont use diamonds, and i know alot of people that dont like them. you cant buy things in shops, their only purpose is to buy things from other players at insane prices. when did they become a type of currency? plats have lost value, theyre barely worth anything now. even in trades youll get "diamonds only." whatever happened to plat/gold/silver?

Gothika 01-28-2007 05:11 PM

Diamonds are only used in expensive trades because no one wants to carry around lots of plat.

Darklux 01-28-2007 07:51 PM

Yeah but only because theres too much plat around.
Why?

Several bugs in the history of gk allowed goose to lay golden eggs.

Crow 01-28-2007 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darklux (Post 1270637)
Yeah but only because theres too much plat around.
Why?

Several bugs in the history of gk allowed goose to lay golden eggs.

Well said lol.

Gothika 01-28-2007 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darklux (Post 1270637)
Yeah but only because theres too much plat around.
Why?

Several bugs in the history of gk allowed goose to lay golden eggs.

I'll agree that bug has killed the economy.
The bug was only active for a few days but in that time people managed to make enough plat to damage the server for a year.

Draenin 01-28-2007 11:05 PM

I don't think that a lot of you realize that if diamonds were eliminated as the source of currency, weapons would become hyper-powerful and maps would be used as currency instead.

protozero 01-29-2007 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutelilmurderer (Post 1270607)
To be honest if there were to be a diamond shop that sold diamonds for something like 400 platinum coins, that would solve the problem. Or even to go the way of alchemy and restrict their use on the trade tables.

I could just see a flood of angry messages coming from this suggestion though...

Sorry...that would RUIN the economy with the billions of plat ***** and ***** made....

Darklux 01-29-2007 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by protozero (Post 1270806)
Sorry...that would RUIN the economy with the billions of plat ***** and ***** made....

It cant be ruined further. You would just have to put a stronger limit on enchanting weapons.

The hell, who really need diamonds? Its just for enchanting weapons. I cant imagine that people need 500 diamonds, why should them be currency?

Plats should just get an increased worth, by a money-reset or anything.

hampy 01-29-2007 07:22 PM

This is a ridiculous thread, sorry. Stefan has already said there won't be a reset, you can't stop diamonds being the currency, its the best thing for GK to just leave things to sort themself out..

Draenin 01-29-2007 07:52 PM

Diamonds are a concrete economy item. They don't need to be screwed with.

hampy 01-29-2007 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draenin (Post 1270972)
Diamonds are a concrete economy item. They don't need to be screwed with.

Exactly! Thats what I meant :)

Googi 01-29-2007 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darklux (Post 1270957)
The hell, who really need diamonds? Its just for enchanting weapons. I cant imagine that people need 500 diamonds, why should them be currency?

The hell, who really needs paper money? You can't even write on it very well! I guess you can kind of burn it for fuel. I can't imagine that people would need 500 bills, why should they be currency?

cutelilmurderer 01-30-2007 10:38 AM

I am surprised I don't see anyone in the mines, ever. I usually find two to five diamonds in there a day. It's really nice to have lots of them saved up.

I was not saying that selling them for 400p was a GOOD idea, it was just an idea to level out the use for them as currency. Truth be told, the only thing that really sparks my anger is the flood of cash that spewed its way into the world. Inflation is so darn rediculous right now for GK.

zell12 01-30-2007 11:09 AM

How about you all just buy diamonds for 500plat. And keep it that way? No one buy them for more... because when you sell them again for something else, people will be like nope, give me more, dias are only worth 500plat... There we go.


btw, only reason i saw a need for dias was for weapon enchants I think..

Darklux 01-30-2007 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zell12 (Post 1271248)
How about you all just buy diamonds for 500plat. And keep it that way? No one buy them for more... because when you sell them again for something else, people will be like nope, give me more, dias are only worth 500plat... There we go.


btw, only reason i saw a need for dias was for weapon enchants I think..

Yes, more or less, and noone needs as many diamonds to enchant weapons as you pay for good items.

Its wierd.

Crow 01-30-2007 04:09 PM

Go make a shop where you can buy diamonds for say 750 plat each. Give the players one week to buy themselves diamonds. Then reset all the money.

Ravenblade1979 01-30-2007 04:40 PM

Basically Darkreign ruined this one..he set the bar at 1k per dias and ppl caught on. its ridiculous. It will pass but it takes time. Its not a overnight thing. A few still sell for 500p a dias

hampy 01-30-2007 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1271272)
Go make a shop where you can buy diamonds for say 750 plat each. Give the players one week to buy themselves diamonds. Then reset all the money.

What the hell, no

cyan3 01-30-2007 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1271272)
Go make a shop where you can buy diamonds for say 750 plat each. Give the players one week to buy themselves diamonds. Then reset all the money.

I think all the plat in the game should be reset well i whould say that i dont have any plat i only have dia.

protozero 01-30-2007 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyan3 (Post 1271299)
I think all the plat in the game should be reset well i whould say that i dont have any plat i only have dia.


I'd have to second that, there's so much of that glitched plat around...so much of it was given out, even thouhg alot of people are going to go agaisnt reseting all the plat because they have 500k of it from selling gems for crazy prices, it's still glitched platinum.

Draenin 01-31-2007 12:01 AM

Plat is not 'glitched.' It kind of comes from places. Enemies drop it, shopkeepers give you it, you get it from selling items and doing alchemy, and so on. Before the time of many still posting here, there wasn't that much to go around, but alchemy was fixed and the economy got to where it is now, basically. Most of the time, plat is so insignificant it's unreal.

I can't help but think this is directly related to Drako being an idiot and other people believing him about the price of diamonds again. Stop being sheep.

If you guys are that desperate for diamonds, I could always fetch some magic gear again and get back to making a few hundred diamonds every couple of days to sell for 500 plat apiece.

cyan3 01-31-2007 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draenin (Post 1271459)
Plat is not 'glitched.' It kind of comes from places. Enemies drop it, shopkeepers give you it, you get it from selling items and doing alchemy, and so on. Most of the time, plat is so insignificant it's unreal.

Yes, but now most of the plat around was from a glitch i have seen lots of players with way over 1 mil plat.

Draenin 01-31-2007 12:07 AM

It's not a glitch, idiot. I've made half a million just doing alchemy.

cyan3 01-31-2007 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draenin (Post 1271466)
It's not a glitch, idiot. I've made half a million just doing alchemy.

Yes i understand that but now too many people have that much and they don't even have dopv and didin't spend all of that time trying to get the sapphires and carrots.

Draenin 01-31-2007 12:17 AM

Money doesn't appear out of nowhere. As far as I know, the values of things have stayed the same as well. And besides, the worst that could result from a high fluctuation in plat is diamonds getting phased out as an average currency. If plat actually starts to retain its value again, it'll be really nice.

Googi 01-31-2007 12:25 AM

Even if someone had 500,000 plat they couldn't do much besides restock shops with it.

Draenin 01-31-2007 12:43 AM

I actually had about 500,000 (Down to about 300,000 now) and that's all I did with it. :D


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