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VashX20 12-18-2006 11:58 PM

Graal and USD
 
Whats with players coming to me in shops and trying to sell me items for USD?

Devil 12-19-2006 12:35 AM

That's how games naturally evolve. Most end up with players doing underhanded deals out of game with USD.

Googi 12-19-2006 12:53 AM

Is this happening on servers other than 2K2 now?

Devil 12-19-2006 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1254965)
Is this happening on servers other than 2K2 now?

I would laugh if it did, possibly Zodiac, but I couldn't see it happening on other servers.

VashX20 12-19-2006 12:59 AM

This has been happening on ERA, GK, Zodiac, and Maloria (from what i know so far)

Googi 12-19-2006 01:03 AM

I've been on Zodiac a bit and I haven't seen any USDing going on.

Devil 12-19-2006 01:08 AM

I have... even when it came out.

Chris 12-19-2006 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1254965)
Is this happening on servers other than 2K2 now?

Era, Zodiac, and Maloria (well not so much now).

VashX20 12-19-2006 01:51 AM

What does staff even do about it when they find out about it?

Waltz5 12-19-2006 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by VashX20 (Post 1255001)
What does staff even do about it when they find out about it?

You really can't do anything. It's not that big of deal, it's gonna happen.

Devil 12-19-2006 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by VashX20 (Post 1255001)
What does staff even do about it when they find out about it?

You can't do anything, because it's all out of game.

A smart thing would be for Graal to put something on their website so you could buy things for Gold Servers.

zim5354 12-19-2006 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1255008)
You can't do anything, because it's all out of game.

A smart thing would be for Graal to put something on their website so you could buy things for Gold Servers.

How many people play Kingdoms now? As for Zone well eh.

Devil 12-19-2006 03:21 AM

Lol yeah, I see your point. But when the "next?" gold server comes out, I'm sure Graal could implement something.

VashX20 12-19-2006 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1255008)
You can't do anything, because it's all out of game.

A smart thing would be for Graal to put something on their website so you could buy things for Gold Servers.

Good Idea!

zim5354 12-19-2006 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1255036)
Lol yeah, I see your point. But when the "next?" gold server comes out, I'm sure Graal could implement something.

Yea if 3d ever gets done and has a server I could see something or maybe on the new 2k1 if/when it comes out maybe a $ for G thing?

Devil 12-19-2006 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by zim5354 (Post 1255135)
Yea if 3d ever gets done and has a server I could see something or maybe on the new 2k1 if/when it comes out maybe a $ for G thing?

Yep, perfect times to test it out. Especially with G3D.

Magadal 12-19-2006 11:56 AM

Would be like "Ne*on Cash" in Ma**e Sto*y. But I like that idea x]

Devil 12-19-2006 12:01 PM

Oh you're gonna cop it hard for that.. lollll

Crono 12-19-2006 12:50 PM

money for items is dumb, unless of course it's underground

VashX20 12-19-2006 11:19 PM

Bleh

Googi 12-20-2006 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Waltz5 (Post 1255007)
You really can't do anything. It's not that big of deal, it's gonna happen.

Staff could do quite a bit simply by banning things like advertising the sale of items over AIM and other programs.

zim5354 12-20-2006 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1255575)
Staff could do quite a bit simply by banning things like advertising the sale of items over AIM and other programs.

I think the staff have given up on GK. As for Era and Zodiac I doubt they care as most of the staff spawn items anyway.

Googi 12-20-2006 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by zim5354 (Post 1255579)
I think the staff have given up on GK.

It's more that they just never really cared. Sam pretty much admitted that the staff don't care about actually stopping USDing, just about protecting Cyberjoueurs from liability related to it.

Chris 12-20-2006 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zim5354 (Post 1255579)
As for Era and Zodiac I doubt they care as most of the staff spawn items anyway.

Quite the assumption.

Waltz5 12-20-2006 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1255575)
Staff could do quite a bit simply by banning things like advertising the sale of items over AIM and other programs.

That wouldn't do anything... just don't include staff if you're mass messaging about Selling over AIM/MSN.

zim5354 12-20-2006 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 1255588)
Quite the assumption.

You havent thoroughly reviewed all the logs have you? People have been doing it since Chrisz's Era. The only non-currupt Era was Delph's. But anyway this is about Graal and USD not Eras downfall.

Googi 12-20-2006 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Waltz5 (Post 1255592)
That wouldn't do anything... just don't include staff if you're mass messaging about Selling over AIM/MSN.

Do you think you could get away with linking to trainers in mass messages by not including staff in the mass?

Waltz5 12-20-2006 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1255598)
Do you think you could get away with linking to trainers in mass messages by not including staff in the mass?

I was assuming it would fall under the "PM's can be easily modified so it's not good enough" routine.

Googi 12-20-2006 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Waltz5 (Post 1255604)
I was assuming it would fall under the "PM's can be easily modified so it's not good enough" routine.

That doesn't really answer my question.

Chris 12-20-2006 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zim5354 (Post 1255594)
You havent thoroughly reviewed all the logs have you? People have been doing it since Chrisz's Era. The only non-currupt Era was Delph's. But anyway this is about Graal and USD not Eras downfall.

Oh I know items have been spawned, but those responsible have been dealt with. Though you wouldn't know/understand that.

Demisis_P2P 12-20-2006 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Waltz5 (Post 1255604)
I was assuming it would fall under the "PM's can be easily modified so it's not good enough" routine.

Yeah but lots of staff play on secondary accounts that they use to become friends with troublemakers. ;)

Rapidwolve 01-02-2007 05:11 AM

I've made around $30 USD for Zodiac items :)

Stephen 01-02-2007 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 1255607)
Oh I know items have been spawned, but those responsible have been dealt with. Though you wouldn't know/understand that.

I'm afraid it stems beyond that, although it's not really a problem anymore. I would say, based on my personal experience with the current staff, there's a 95% chance of very little abuse of staff powers.

Devil 01-02-2007 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapidwolve (Post 1259769)
I've made around $30 USD for Zodiac items :)

What the hell did you sell?

Tyhm 01-02-2007 07:31 AM

*shrugs* Graal Could always do away with all trading systems altogether. Then you just have to sweat people selling the account and all the Stuff with it.

Devil 01-02-2007 07:46 AM

Maybe it could be incorporated into Graal3d, with Graal charging USD for items in game. Hopefully not things to make people instantly better than other players.

Stephen 01-02-2007 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1259847)
Hopefully not things to make people instantly better than other players.

I doubt there's much incentive for people to buy it, otherwise.

Devil 01-02-2007 07:54 AM

There is an extent which could be reached. Nothing too insane (items).

MisterMastermind 01-02-2007 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rapidwolve (Post 1259769)
I've made around $30 USD for Zodiac items :)

I could probably get alot more for my junk, but I'd rather not seeing as it sounds like a scam.

Devil 01-02-2007 08:04 AM

Makes me think.. I've got alot of stuff that could be sold on Zodiac considering I stopped playing.


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