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Damix2 10-08-2006 01:44 AM

Should the Graal3d project be scratched?
 
It seems a lot of Graal's resources are being thrown towards the creation of Graal3d. I can't speak for anyone else, but part of the draw of Graal was it was a 2d game, it didn't try to be the best graphics and features wise.

My question is, what do you players think, should the current resources be used to improve our 2 gold servers, while providing better customer support and occasionally updating the games features?

Or should we continue to spread our resources throughout everything; Graal 3d, gold servers, updating the scripting language, redoing the client and providing customer support.

Zero Hour 10-08-2006 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damix2 (Post 1227559)
It seems a lot of Graal's resources are being thrown towards the creation of Graal3d. I can't speak for anyone else, but part of the draw of Graal was it was a 2d game, it didn't try to be the best graphics and features wise.

My question is, what do you players think, should the current resources be used to improve our 2 gold servers, while providing better customer support and occasionally updating the games features?

Or should we continue to spread our resources throughout everything; Graal 3d, gold servers, updating the scripting language, redoing the client and providing customer support.

I would like to see what they're working on completed before I made that judgement.

KuJi 10-08-2006 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Damix2 (Post 1227559)
It seems a lot of Graal's resources are being thrown towards the creation of Graal3d. I can't speak for anyone else, but part of the draw of Graal was it was a 2d game, it didn't try to be the best graphics and features wise.

My question is, what do you players think, should the current resources be used to improve our 2 gold servers, while providing better customer support and occasionally updating the games features?

Or should we continue to spread our resources throughout everything; Graal 3d, gold servers, updating the scripting language, redoing the client and providing customer support.

I want 3d so bad.. wanna test the engine and I know tons do.

Crono 10-08-2006 01:47 AM

I want to see Graal 3D work out. It looks promising and I wanna own Kuji in 3D.

Mykel 10-08-2006 01:48 AM

Personally, I think it should be scratched.

At best, Graal is going to be a sub-par 3D MMORPG. I think it should do its best to be one of the best 2D games.

excaliber7388 10-08-2006 01:51 AM

I want graal 3d. There's so much that could be done with it, I'm really looking foward to its release :)

Elk 10-08-2006 01:52 AM

Graal 3D
ONLY GRAAL 3D!
taking every server down and working on graal 3d!

Rapidwolve 10-08-2006 01:56 AM

Im so anxious to see Graal3D :[

I also will own joey in it ;)

Tom 10-08-2006 01:56 AM

Im not to bothered if its made or not, but i wouldnt mind making textures like Elk said above. And developing a 3d server with the easy to use graal tools :D If they are easy that is.

excaliber7388 10-08-2006 02:03 AM

Yeah it would be really sweet to make a 3d playerworld :D

Elk 10-08-2006 02:04 AM

textures are easier than pixelart so yea!

Googi 10-08-2006 02:04 AM

Who uses scratched in place of scrapped?

Rapidwolve 10-08-2006 02:04 AM

Err, is there anyway to test out G3D at this point? I wanna play nowww :(

Damix2 10-08-2006 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1227587)
Who uses scratched in place of scrapped?

Obviously I do. And obviously everyone knows what I am talking about.

Draenin 10-08-2006 02:08 AM

I'd like to see the 3D playerworld toolkit released, but I'm not so crazy about Graal 3D itself.

It seems to me like a lot of lesser developers might be able to do things with Graal3D that the 5-man team of Cyberjoueurs staff may not have thought of. If players are presented with the tools they need to work on things, more often than not, they will. However, it first takes someone to develop those tools for usage.

KuJi 10-08-2006 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1227565)
I want to see Graal 3D work out. It looks promising and I wanna own Kuji in 3D.

Because you already failed owning me in 2d ;)

Infernix 10-08-2006 02:29 AM

Graal3d is a waste of time IMO. I would like a nice 2d game to play first atleast lol.

pooper200000 10-08-2006 02:54 AM

Ok someoens going to shoot me for this but would you explian graal3d like is t being made or what?

Zero Hour 10-08-2006 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1227604)
Ok someoens going to shoot me for this but would you explian graal3d like is t being made or what?

The engine is made now they're working on content and some new features for the engine.

Spark910 10-08-2006 03:21 AM

3D is only going to put development out of the reach of the players. Sure, GScript may still be there, but you will need so much more skill to make the game look interesting and different as skins and models are very complicated compared to just graphics.

Also, I think it's not worth it. It's been going for so long, as still there isn't that much that I know of (granted, they have been keeping tight lips). But if they had put all that time and resources into a 2D/GK style 3D world I'd bet they would be pleasing more people than they will with 3D.

Devil 10-08-2006 04:46 AM

Keep going with 3d, if they scrap it now it's a complete waste. Just let them bring it out then comment on it.

Spark910 10-08-2006 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1227660)
Keep going with 3d, if they scrap it now it's a complete waste. Just let them bring it out then comment on it.

Knowing when to stop is a good thing, especially in business. Carrying on, for the sake of finishing it when the end product is not going to appeal doesn't make sense, and is a further waste of resources.

Graal really shouldn't carry on for the sake of carrying on. I honestly do not think that there will be anything worthwhile at the end of the project.

WanDaMan 10-08-2006 11:17 AM

As I previously stated in another thread, I originally upgraded for this feature. I highly doubt I'll be upgrading even if it gets finished; !pissed! the project is now tainted.

Devil 10-08-2006 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Spark910 (Post 1227718)
Knowing when to stop is a good thing, especially in business. Carrying on, for the sake of finishing it when the end product is not going to appeal doesn't make sense, and is a further waste of resources.

Graal really shouldn't carry on for the sake of carrying on. I honestly do not think that there will be anything worthwhile at the end of the project.

That's all well and dandy, but you might have taken what I said in the wrong way. I meant for them to keep going if it's worth it, I'm sure there will be players and it will be a huge change for Graal in itself.

I personally would play and re-upgrade (which I done like 2 weeks ago) to play Graal 3D.

WanDaMan 10-08-2006 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1227730)
That's all well and dandy, but you might have taken what I said in the wrong way. I meant for them to keep going if it's worth it, I'm sure there will be players and it will be a huge change for Graal in itself.

I personally would play and re-upgrade (which I done like 2 weeks ago) to play Graal 3D.

Nha, it's lost all it's credibility; I wouldn't upgrade knowing that it's not finished nor being actively worked on :p

Elk 10-08-2006 11:45 AM

graal should start new

Devil 10-08-2006 11:58 AM

Wow Elk, fantastic logic. A business would die if it does stupid things like that.

Anyway, Wan, where is the information regarding what you just said about it barely being worked on? Maybe it's in this thread, I might have over looked it.

Skyld 10-08-2006 11:59 AM

Right. First, are you talking about the Graal3D world, or the Graal3D engine?

The world will have to be crafted very well for it to be worth it's while, but the engine is going to be excellent to have either way.

Elk 10-08-2006 12:00 PM

i could make so ownage textures...!

WanDaMan 10-08-2006 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Devil (Post 1227743)
Anyway, Wan, where is the information regarding what you just said about it barely being worked on? Maybe it's in this thread, I might have over looked it.

It's been delayed so many times, apparantly they're starting it after they've added some other feature - so I understand?

Devil 10-08-2006 12:52 PM

Ah.. if that's the case.. then that's not good.

Crono 10-08-2006 01:04 PM

I can't believe me, the one who complains about everything, is one of the only people who want Graal 3D. lol

xXziroXx 10-08-2006 02:11 PM

Like I said in another thread, I only play Graal because it is one of vey few online 2D games that you can develop on yourself. If I wanted to play a 3D game, I would play a game from *one of the big ones*.

Demisis_P2P 10-08-2006 02:23 PM

No.

Magadal 10-08-2006 02:24 PM

Graal is supposed to be 2D, and it should not become 3D.

Demisis_P2P 10-08-2006 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Magadal (Post 1227800)
Graal is supposed to be 2D, and it should not become 3D.

You don't have to play the 3D part. It's not like UN will suddenly become 3D.
Even with Graal's professional staff I don't think they can make enough 3D gothic baby heads to meet UN's needs.

Crono 10-08-2006 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1227805)
Even with Graal's professional staff I don't think they can make enough 3D gothic baby heads to meet UN's needs.

LOL well said :D :D :D

UberModeKappa 10-08-2006 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magadal (Post 1227800)
Graal is supposed to be 2D, and it should not become 3D.

Since when did you take Unixmad's throne?

Infernix 10-08-2006 10:56 PM

Real power lies in the hands of the people when trying to sell a product. So if the people dont want 3D there shall and shouldnt be 3D..that is if Unixmad makes a smart buisness decision based on this.

I think people are concerned about 3D because they relize that it takes time to create. The time in which they think The Graal Administration could be using more wisely on the 2D part.

smirt362 10-08-2006 11:23 PM

I've looked at the screenshots and I dont really want to play it.


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