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unixmad 07-27-2006 09:26 PM

New Graal Version 4.1 !
 
The new Graal version 4.1 will be released to VIP members in half an hour; :)

This new version is introducing a lot of new functionality for both developer and player.

For Players:

We are releasing a new client interface. Thanks to Kevin our graphical designer, Stefan for the programming and me for the ideas and debugging.

This new interface will give you access to the games world server where you will find lot of new games to play alone or with your friends. These games are based on the new vector technology we are introducing on Graal (I will give more details on the developer part of my message). Hope you will enjoy these games as much as we do.

We are introducing a global currency (surprisingly called Gralats) to bet on games when you play against your friends. At the end of the VIP testing, we will make a ranking based on your number of Gralats, the winners will receive some nice gift from us (Will announce them later).

We have completely rebuilt the 3D engine to look better and the 3D graphics have been remade from scratch. We were planning to release a 3D football game for this release but it’s not completely finished so you will see it when we release this version to everyone.

You will find a lot of new features in this version which will be fun for players to discover, take a look at the new emoticons!

Some features that have been introduced in this version are currently unavailable for now, one of the features we have been working on is to make an activex plugin version of the graal client. This will allow you to run Graal in a Internet Explorer or Firefox window which will auto install when you connect on the page. It is opening a whole new market to Graalonline… More to come…

For Developer:

We are introducing Vector graphics in this release; you will be able to use Macromedia Flash to make vector animation. This is opening lot of possibility to Graal developers. Stefan will give you more details.

Huge improvements has been made to the GUI for customizing your client interface, developers will be able to use all the new functionality for their PlayerWorlds.

We have made a huge progress into making the 3D engine easier to use, we are starting to see the end of the 3D development and are preparing documentation for using the 3D technology. We are planning to release the 3D technology as a preview to developers at the end of August.

Your comments, suggestion, bug reports are welcome !

And now the more important HAVE FUN!

Admins 07-27-2006 09:30 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Feature list:

Server list and Games list
- New Layout including display of the server map
- A set of vector graphics games where you can play for highscore or play against other players and bet gralats or chat
- Easier interface to access events on servers

Flash Content
- Use flash resources (e.g. vector graphics) in Graal
PHP Code:

findimg (200) {
  
layer 4;
  
100;
  
100;
  
flashfile "test.swf";
  
flash.object "btn1";


Other attributes are flash.frame, flash.looping,flash.playing. You can also call flash.play() and flash.stop() instead of modifying flash.playing.
When flash.object is empty, then it will display the whole flash movie (might not look correctly though since flash script is ignored).

Animated emoticons

Hacking protection
- Better protection of base variables
- Better detection of cheating tools

True type fonts on Mac and Linux

Scripting
- Several GUI fixes for clipping of images and text
- play2 / playlooped2 fixed on gmaps
- player.language and player.languagedomain work on clientside
- polygons can be textured now:
PHP Code:

with (findimg(200)) {
  
layer 4;
  
dimension 2;
  
polygon = {100,100,200,100,200,200,100,200};
  
image "mud_apple.png";


- drawing panels (GuiDrawingPanel and icons) are updated automatically when a file has been downloaded
- fixed some problems when drawing pngs with alpha-channel onto drawing panels
- isapplicationactive variable, is either true or false
- isdownloadingfile(filename) returns true/false
- random generators can be created by script:
PHP Code:

rand = new MRandomLCG(); // of MRandomR250()
rand.seed 123// optional
echo("random integer: " rand.randInt());
echo(
"random float: " rand.randFloat());
rand.destroy(); 

- All GUI controls support text shadow (instead of just in GUIMLTextCtrl):
PHP Code:

profile.textshadow true,
profile.shadowOffset = {1,1},
profile.shadowColor = {0,0,0} for black shadow 

- In the GUI the text style can be changed now to display italic or bold text: profile.fontStyle = "i", "b" or "bi"
- GuiTreeViewCtrl improvements:

- nodes can use their own profile
- support for bigger icons
- you can access the position and extent of nodes (read only)
- you can hide the first vertical line by setting firstLineVisible to false
- the width of the box and the space between lines can be modified with the variables boxwidth and statuswidth
- onMouseOverCell(node,dotname,slashname) event

- GuiTextListCtrl improvements (this also includes controls which are copying functions from this, like GuiContextMenuCtrl):

- the selected row is correctly moved when the list is sorted or a new row is inserted
- rows can use their own profile
- support for bigger icons
- onMouseOverCell(entryid,entrytext,entryindex) event

- in GuiMLTextCtrl there is support for more html tags: <b>boldtext</b>, <i>italictext</i>
- for GuiWindowCtrls where the inside of the window border is round, you can define profile.backgroundinset = {5,5,5,5} (left,top,right,bottom) to define where the background layer should be displayed, instead of at the border bitmap offset

Network improvements
- /ping command on servers (will eventually be accessible for scripts later)

Matt 07-27-2006 09:42 PM

Very nice, great work ! ^^

Malinko 07-27-2006 09:48 PM

I can speak one thing, WOW.

I LOVE the new serverlist! It's awesome for people who wish to be on games with friends!

Also, for developers, great improvements with vectors. I heard a lot of new scripting is in it, so I can't wait to see who creates some cool, new stuff!

I can not wait for betting of global gralats!

Oh, and I love UN's server icon, it's me! ;);)

Zero Hour 07-27-2006 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami
Sorry but I do NOT like it. It's not Graalian and just looks cheap.

The current one is fine and should stay that way. That or make it optional?

I think it looks nice. I have another option to suggest; Ignore you!

KuJi 07-27-2006 09:50 PM

Awsuem :O

Maniaman 07-27-2006 10:00 PM

How do you access the events list and chat stuff now?

Eagle 07-27-2006 10:04 PM

I like it, but found 1 bug :

When you are on a server, and hit f8 (while the playerlist is still open) and there are mass messages, if you answer them on you're playerlist, you still see them flashing in the playerlist build into the serverlist.

Kappa00p2p 07-27-2006 10:06 PM

Is Graal3D going to be open for trial and classic accounts?

Loakey_P2P 07-27-2006 10:11 PM

waiting for it to download but from stefan and unixmad's post it sound's promising .

link master111 07-27-2006 10:18 PM

can't wait

-Ching 07-27-2006 10:18 PM

Shame I cant see it, my GFX is dying and I can only see white squares around gfx and random objects. Looks nice on the SS's though

excaliber7388 07-27-2006 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami
Sorry but I do NOT like it. It's not Graalian and just looks cheap.

The current one is fine and should stay that way. That or make it optional?



...Flash and graal don't mix, or so I think...

Sometimes you guys need to look back and wonder "is this REALLY graalian?"

Party pooper!

I love it, I can't wait to take advantage of the flash things. The DR computer was going to have movies with gfx and a sound file, now we can use flash ^_^
This opens a lot of doors, I really like it ^_^
Good job guys!

Loriel 07-27-2006 10:25 PM

So are you actually importing flash animations or merely vector graphics? If vector graphics, why did you decide against supporting svg files?

Dach 07-27-2006 10:27 PM

sounds good,
We did ask for cool things on login 1 to do that weren't necessarily related to Player Worlds.

Of course, I would like to know why I am getting this http://www.imagesocket.com/view/ActiveXmyarseaa8.PNG when I know I have ActiveX, since that is how my firewall gets updated.

Edit: working on figuring it out

link master111 07-27-2006 10:27 PM

Oo its here

Darlene159 07-27-2006 10:31 PM

Great job!
I love the games part!

Crono 07-27-2006 10:31 PM

That Games menu looks horrible. Like a children's multiplayer flash game section where 11 year olds play chess together or something. That entire F8 menu should be transperant like the current one and hold one color pattern rather than red and blue.

That or make 4.1 completly optional, meaning we can continue using the current public version of graal instead of 4.1, because frankly by the looks of it some people including me aren't going to enjoy this upgrade x.x;

Admins 07-27-2006 10:33 PM

The table creation will also be used for creating sparring rooms on servers, it should fit quite nicely to that.

Thallen 07-27-2006 10:35 PM

You are ruining Graal, and turning it into ever other elitest game on the internet.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159
Uh, what?
Looks like it has the same gameplay to me, just the log in menu has changed, and we can do more stuff. What is the problem?


Graal isn't going to be Graal much longer, if it already is. You're adding too many things and it's not the simple, fun game it once was. Why does it only seem like the STUPID people enjoy updates like 'Graal3D' and this new little 'Fun and Games!' crap?

Darlene159 07-27-2006 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallen
You are ruining Graal, and turning it into ever other elitest game on the internet.

Uh, what?
Looks like it has the same gameplay to me, just the log in menu has changed, and we can do more stuff. What is the problem?

ir1337 07-27-2006 10:38 PM

You know what pisses me off? The fact that graal comes out with VIP, promissing you all this and all that, then by the time it all comes out, our VIP has expired.

petro1212 07-27-2006 10:41 PM

I like it, except for the hidious new login screen; looks rather amateuristic. The script commands/improvements have been anticipated by alot of people and thank god that they are finally here ;)!

Good job, Stefan!

@Gerami: Graal is notting more than a game engine; Deal with it. *Gives lollipop* stop crying! :P

@Unixmad: Fire Kevin! Seriously the gui is hidious. Probably even an idea to introduce a select skin option of some sort for players and releasing a bunch of decent gui skins.

link master111 07-27-2006 10:42 PM

I for one think its good.

Well done lll staff who made it.

Crono 07-27-2006 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thallen
You are ruining Graal

I agree on this point. If we want to play flash games, we go on another website and play. Wanna play with graalians? Pm them the link to the flash game and enjoy.

Graal clientwise is -fine- the way it is now. How can people like the new F8 menu? :/

Quote:

Uh, what?
Looks like it has the same gameplay to me, just the log in menu has changed
Screw gameplay, the menu changed for the worse.

Quote:

and we can do more stuff. What is the problem?
Such as? The new menu looks too childish and cheap. The current one is awesome, why change it? -.-

Quote:

@Gerami: Graal is notting more than a game engine; Deal with it. *Gives lollipop* stop crying! :P
Elaborate. Graal is a GAME, Graal has an F8 menu which has just been ruined.

*Gives ribbon* stop sucking up

hampy 07-27-2006 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159
Great job!
I love the games part!

ditto

Sam 07-27-2006 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159
I love the games part!

Yes me too. and just right now while I dont be able to play GK anymore. !pissed!

Dach 07-27-2006 10:51 PM

Okay, apparently I had to go to http://www.adobe.com/ and install some player thingy.

now fix those freaking array bugs! http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=67422

Skyld 07-27-2006 10:53 PM

Selecting skins would be a nice improvement; people could design their own skins and submit them.

Darlene159 07-27-2006 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skyld
Selecting skins would be a nice improvement; people could design their own skins and submit them.

Yea, that would be fun. I love to be able to customize things
^^

KuJi 07-27-2006 10:57 PM

Hey.. look at the non-vips cry ;(

http://www.graalx.us/lolstef1.bmp

Haha @ stefan :P

excaliber7388 07-27-2006 10:57 PM

Wow, I really like it lol.
Different tastes I guess.
Maybe have some kind of skins thing, allowing people like crono to have a different skin.
*edit: just saw that was mentioned already lol*
Although I think it looks awesome

Dach 07-27-2006 10:58 PM

Come to think of it, having a chat server with games scripted with the Graal engine would be cooler. You know, something like what Jagen has been working on.
Now that I know these are just chinsy flash games.

Crono 07-27-2006 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by excaliber7388
Wow, I really like it lol.
Different tastes I guess.
Maybe have some kind of skins thing, allowing people like crono to have a different skin.
*edit: just saw that was mentioned already lol*
Although I think it looks awesome

I want more than a skin. I want the current one exactly the way it is as an option. If so then I'd be happy and tell unixmad and stefan "good job". Until then im angry and will be killing many people on many servers.

:)

KuJi 07-27-2006 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami
I want more than a skin. I want the current one exactly the way it is as an option. If so then I'd be happy and tell unixmad and stefan "good job". Until then im angry and will be killing many people on many servers.

:)

God do you really want to play that bad.. man.. 25$.. z.z

*Edit* Another pic - I beat unix :D

http://graalx.us/lolstef2.bmp

Andy0687 07-27-2006 11:09 PM

I dont like the sounds of it at all, I came here for one reason, to play a game that was like Zelda online. Not to play a bunch of second-rate flash games for "Gralat".

I did not come for a 3d game, there are tons proceeding this one.

I did not come for Vector graphics and horrible loading times on people adding a ton of stupid BS to the servers.

Graal isnt a game anymore, its a development tool, and the development tools, arent even that good either.

This update is just wrong in so many ways to me ;/

excaliber7388 07-27-2006 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami
I want more than a skin. I want the current one exactly the way it is as an option. If so then I'd be happy and tell unixmad and stefan "good job". Until then im angry and will be killing many people on many servers.

:)

Did you take your meds this morning? :D
I know I'm on your hit list if you didn't ;)
Anyway, you see it for about 3 seconds if you don't like it. And if you like the games.....well, ignore how it looks, and enjoy the gamez ^^

Tyhm 07-27-2006 11:10 PM

The GEuro
 
So are Gralats going to be exchangeable for PW monies? Will I be able to go into the Graal Classic Bank, check the exchange rate (probably monstrous given how common money is on Classic), and exchange 10,000 Classic Gralats for one GEuro? Then exchange that GEuro on Kingdoms for 1 Plat?

Skyld 07-27-2006 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159
Yea, that would be fun. I love to be able to customize things
^^

Go team!

Crono 07-27-2006 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KuJi
God do you really want to play that bad.. man.. 25$.. z.z

*Edit* Another pic - I beat unix :D

http://graalx.us/lolstef2.bmp

Uh, what the hell? Where did you get this idea from? I'm complaining about the looks of this new version, where does me actually playing or not come into this?

Quote:

Did you take your meds this morning?
I know I'm on your hit list if you didn't
Anyway, you see it for about 3 seconds if you don't like it. And if you like the games.....well, ignore how it looks, and enjoy the gamez
I don't takes meds. You're on my hit list for ever and I want to see the current F8 stay. I don't see the big hype in this whole flash games thing.

You people act like you've never ever played flash games before with other people. Seriously now...

CJ should be concentrating on quality servers at the moment, not some silly flash games or ruining the nice looking F8 menu. Oh well, to each his own I guess.


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