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Torankusu 07-20-2006 05:16 AM

Restoration
 
Who was the genius that took 999+ food away from the restoration prayer? Without that, restoration is useless. Refer to: Cure Poison, Cure Disease, Major Heal.

thanks.

SayianOozaru 07-20-2006 07:56 AM

this happened along time ago...try searching the threads...i no there was one or 2 posted about this...it wont be changed...we already tried...

Craigus 07-20-2006 01:56 PM

Bring back the super foods! summoning waybread +500 food at any wisdom level was great..

Sam 07-20-2006 02:36 PM

Instead of restauration, we have now a restaurant. ^^
And maybe it will not be the only one...
It's much more fun to go in the Misty Mug Tavern and order a delicious steak and a grape juice instead of casting a spell to get full.

Jaquet 07-20-2006 03:41 PM

yeah well when your far away from the mug, and there are no mmt members on to serve your needs.....your kinda screwed. I say bring it back.

Damix2 07-20-2006 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam
Instead of restauration, we have now a restaurant. ^^
And maybe it will not be the only one...
It's much more fun to go in the Misty Mug Tavern and order a delicious steak and a grape juice instead of casting a spell to get full.

Actually it isn't. Stop talking for everyone.

Sam 07-20-2006 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Damix2
Actually it isn't. Stop talking for everyone.

Calm down, Damix this is not the forum for people being abrasive. If you don't prefer to RP and refill your foodbar by clicking it's the wrong game you are playing.

Googi 07-20-2006 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Torankusu
Who was the genius that took 999+ food away from the restoration prayer? Without that, restoration is useless. Refer to: Cure Poison, Cure Disease, Major Heal.

The staff got mad because nobody was using the restaurant they made so they removed the food recovery from restoration.

Zero Hour 07-20-2006 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi
The staff got mad because nobody was using the restaurant they made so they removed the food recovery from restoration.

Well, that was part of their incentive - the farming system was being overlooked entirely... although I'm not sure if this was the right way to fix that problem ;)

Besides, the prices at the Misty mug aren't so bad, and as far as I understand you can get delivery now!

Spiker 07-20-2006 10:09 PM

Yes, but when you wanna buy ALOT of food just to take on a journey, you can, they only let you buy 4 pizza's at a time, which fills my food bar with 1 pizza left, that really doesnt do any good. Either start working harder to sell ALOT of food, or bring back restoration, because I dont plan on planting stuff every day of my graal life just to get food!

Zero Hour 07-20-2006 10:30 PM

I believe the original suggestion was that restoration food+ should be adjusted, not removed.

KuJi 07-20-2006 10:35 PM

Amulet of sustenance + pray to bile.

Your food will last you AT LEAST a day (from 999)

Zero Hour 07-20-2006 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KuJi
Amulet of sustenance + pray to bile.

Your food will last you AT LEAST a day (from 999)

Bile turns you permanently undead.

Spiker 07-20-2006 10:44 PM

ok, so what about my idea. And what if us people dont wanna bless bile, govannon works as a good money getter

Damix2 07-20-2006 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam
Calm down, Damix this is not the forum for people being abrasive. If you don't prefer to RP and refill your foodbar by clicking it's the wrong game you are playing.


Excuse me? You don't tell people how to play a game.

Zero Hour 07-20-2006 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Damix2
Excuse me? You don't tell people how to play a game.

I also don't enjoy RPing.

Sam 07-20-2006 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Damix2
Excuse me? You don't tell people how to play a game.

Before starting to contort someones words, you should learn to read the posts exactly!

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Originally Posted by Sam
It's much more fun to go in the Misty Mug Tavern and order a delicious steak and a grape juice instead of casting a spell to get full.


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Originally Posted by Damix2
Actually it isn't. Stop talking for everyone.

I don't see where I was talking for everyone or any other one!

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Originally Posted by Sam
...If you don't prefer to RP and refill your foodbar by clicking it's the wrong game you are playing.

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Originally Posted by Damix2
Excuse me? You don't tell people how to play a game.

Did I tell anybody how to play a game? No.
So, damix and you should better stop trying to provoke me and read the rules (especially 2.)Content >> i)).
If you have any questions feel free to contact me via PM.

dNeonb 07-20-2006 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi
The staff got mad because nobody was using the restaurant they made so they removed the food recovery from restoration.

Actually no. This was suggested a long time before we even thought about the MMT and not the other onew which Val wants to open.

I already wanted it done when the new alchemy came up.

Waltz5 07-21-2006 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb
Actually no. This was suggested a long time before we even thought about the MMT and not the other onew which Val wants to open.

I already wanted it done when the new alchemy came up.

That's fine. However staff always fails to address the following 2 points:

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Originally Posted by Torankusu
Without that, restoration is useless. Refer to: Cure Poison, Cure Disease, Major Heal.

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour
I believe the original suggestion was that restoration food+ should be adjusted, not removed.


Damix2 07-21-2006 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam
Before starting to contort someones words, you should learn to read the posts exactly!

I don't see where I was talking for everyone or any other one!

Did I tell anybody how to play a game? No.
So, damix and you should better stop trying to provoke me and read the rules (especially 2.)Content >> i)).
If you have any questions feel free to contact me via PM.

I'll post here, thanks.

You might want to learn the definition of provoke before you try to bring the rules out on me. But apparantly you are reading posts like me, so I forgive you.

Simply put instead of saying your opinion, you are talking for the majority of people, unfortunately the majority does not agree with you. I choose not to role play, why should I be punished for playing this game. If you wanted a roleplaying game, you obviously failed in the development.

Splke 07-21-2006 03:26 AM

GK ISNT FOR RP

It's for big IWD'd up weapons and brutal'ing your phys level day in and day out then PKing then getting perfect gear then selling it all. That or getting stopped halfway by somebody using their Event Master tag to PK you.

Anyways. Resotration not restoring food is retarded. MMT fails, so does carrying around agrip of food to restore yourself. Not to mention a person with regen+ (BDA/RoWs) eats up 999 food in probably 10 minutes. Sorry but the idea of enforcing RP by removing Restoration fails. Miserably.

Deophite18 07-21-2006 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb
Actually no. This was suggested a long time before we even thought about the MMT and not the other onew which Val wants to open.

I already wanted it done when the new alchemy came up.

You should really stop pretending you know what's best for GK.

Sam 07-21-2006 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Damix2
You might want to learn the definition of provoke before you try to bring the rules out on me.

Provocation is a conscious provoking, which has as a goal to cause excessive reactions. Provocations can be exaggerations up to the violation of rules. (behavior e.g. standardize-hurting). (from lat.: provocare; from: pro = per + vocare = to call)
And this is exactly what we want to point out in the rules.
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Originally Posted by Damix2
Simply put instead of saying your opinion, you are talking for the majority of people, unfortunately the majority does not agree with you.

I didn't talk for anybody else and I never said that it is everybodys fun to do this or that. Posts are reflecting mostly an opinion of a person also my posts. Beside this it's my job to moderate the threads and lead them.
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Originally Posted by Damix2
I choose not to role play, why should I be punished for playing this game. If you wanted a roleplaying game, you obviously failed in the development.

I didn't develope it. But you pass the ball to me: This game was created for RP.
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Originally Posted by GraalOnline - What is Graal Kingdoms
Graal Kingdoms is an adventure-based massively multiplayer online role playing (MMORPG) experience with 3-D terrain in a 2-D environment. Battle monsters, forge friendships, and collect treasures!

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Originally Posted by Damix2
I choose not to role play, why should I be punished for playing this game.

Strange, let me ask why do you chose an RPG, if you don't want to RP?
For what we have all these cookers, farming stuff and so on, if people don't need it to get full? Many people complains they are bored, why?
To play an RPG especially an MMORPG you need to get in action and work for things.
I say: we need to find back to the roots of this game, instead make everything easy to get.

Torankusu 07-21-2006 10:25 AM

calm down. all i wanted to say was I liked being a priest and being able to cast a revival spell such as restoration on myself and not have to waste time gathering food.

Sam 07-21-2006 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Torankusu
calm down. all i wanted to say was I liked being a priest and being able to cast a revival spell such as restoration on myself and not have to waste time gathering food.

Don't worry, I take it calmly. :cool:

Draenin 07-21-2006 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam
Strange, let me ask why do you chose an RPG, if you don't want to RP?

Because of the G part.

Sam 07-21-2006 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin
Because of the G part.

That makes me really sad if you are serious Draenin. I am not sure if you will find success as leader, if you don't want to role play, or did I misunderstand something?

Draenin 07-21-2006 02:32 PM

Roleplaying can't happen only in a restaurant, and that's about the direction things are headed in.

Sam 07-21-2006 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Draenin
Roleplaying can't happen only in a restaurant, and that's about the direction things are headed in.

Ah, okay thanks for correct this misunderstanding, it looked ambiguos because you answered on my general post:

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Originally Posted by Sam
Strange, let me ask why do you chose an RPG, if you don't want to RP?

with
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Originally Posted by Draenin
Because of the G part.

I was confused because I thought you talking about GK as RPG, not the single part of restauration.

But I think it will not be helpful to add the filling up part of restauration spell again. Quite contrary we need to look for other things, that obstruct game parts like cooking and hunting.
The more easy things gonna be, the more players getting bored, I think.

Draenin 07-21-2006 04:37 PM

Things don't need to be easy, sure, but they don't need to be impossible either.

lordbosh 07-21-2006 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Splke
GK ISNT FOR RP

It's for big IWD'd up weapons and brutal'ing your phys level day in and day out then PKing then getting perfect gear then selling it all. That or getting stopped halfway by somebody using their Event Master tag to PK you.

Anyways. Resotration not restoring food is retarded. MMT fails, so does carrying around agrip of food to restore yourself. Not to mention a person with regen+ (BDA/RoWs) eats up 999 food in probably 10 minutes. Sorry but the idea of enforcing RP by removing Restoration fails. Miserably.


/agreed

wtf bosh agrees with argo on gk for the first time in 5 years :O:O:O:O hows my laptop?

Torankusu 07-21-2006 11:31 PM

Okay, so, now that restoration has no food, and I refuse to kill shell bomys for food, I decided I would take a tour of the Misty Mug Tavern to get some food. Here is my adventure, which, I am sure everyone else has shared before, as well.

So, I walk in, ~300 food left. I decide to try one of their combos, with the Two steaks and a bottle of Rum for some plat or so.

I sit at a table, 4 people working, Sam and Yann there as well. After a few minutes of waiting, and no one to take my order or assist me, I walk to Sam. I ask for some assistance because I am hungry. No response, as usual, because he is idling his GK along with Yann.

So, I leave hungry and have to find food on my own since I can't simply cast restoration which is what the spell was used for.

If you guys are finding it so hard to believe that that was the original purpose of the spell, I will recommend you find the english definition of the word restoration. It was intended to RESTORE a person, not BULL**** a person. It basically does NOTHING for 60+grace. It is rather obvious, that the Misty Mug Tavern is not serving its purpose now.

Sam 07-21-2006 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Torankusu
...I sit at a table, 4 people working, Sam and Yann there as well. After a few minutes of waiting, and no one to take my order or assist me, I walk to Sam. I ask for some assistance because I am hungry. No response, as usual, because he is idling his GK along with Yann.
It is rather obvious, that the Misty Mug Tavern is not serving its purpose now...

That proves you are not thinking before posting!
1. You know NOTHING about the things I am doing while "idle". (at this time I have to bann several people, sadly...)
2. Yann is not a waiter and wasn't on his security tag the whole day! ( and security staff dont serves food...)
3. I am not a waiter too.
4. Feel free to kill shell bomys, there is no duty to buy food in MMT.
You should not beat at persons if you dont have any clue about their function.

Torankusu 07-22-2006 12:28 AM

Yeah, you're still ignoring the stuff you don't have a solid argument against.

You and your duties are not the point of this whole thread. It just so happens to be that the topic of debate is the usefullnes of Restoration now that it does not restore food as well. And, your alternative to that was: go eat at the misty mug tavern for food.

So, I did so, seeing as I wouldn't mind giving it a try. When I did, I got no service, even though there were 4-5 people on tag, and in the room. I noted you two in particular because you were there as well. I never expected you two to serve me.

MasterNuke 07-22-2006 02:46 AM

Umm... spam them with a wall of text until they give you food. But yeah, giving back food with the restoration prayer would be awesome. It may not be a problem now... but in the future, dungeons could get bigger and monsters could have the DEPLETION attacktype, which drains food. I wouldn't want to have to run all the way back to the tavern to get food only to run out again in less than 10 minutes and less than a quarter through the dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Sam
That proves you are not thinking before posting!
1. You know NOTHING about the things I am doing while "idle". (at this time I have to bann several people, sadly...)
2. Yann is not a waiter and wasn't on his security tag the whole day! ( and security staff dont serves food...)
3. I am not a waiter too.
4. Feel free to kill shell bomys, there is no duty to buy food in MMT.
You should not beat at persons if you dont have any clue about their function.

"That proves you are not thinking before posting!"
You may not think it, but that can be taken as a provokative sentence.

1. Sam isn't really there. You're better off assuming he is spacing out.
2. KAY.
3. See 1
4. "Food" is heavy.

sage_scooby 07-22-2006 03:43 AM

I have a neat alternative that I think would work well also. Let us be able to inscribe create food. Then we could carry food scrolls.

Craigus 07-22-2006 11:54 AM

There is a very simple solution to all of this! you go into the misty mug tavern you ask for 6 jerky (thier food order limit) then you receive the jerky you say now can i have 6 jerky, you repeat this process till you have 100 jerky (This actually works if you get a pirate serving you)

Sam 07-22-2006 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Craigus
There is a very simple solution to all of this! you go into the misty mug tavern you ask for 6 jerky (thier food order limit) then you receive the jerky you say now can i have 6 jerky, you repeat this process till you have 100 jerky (This actually works if you get a pirate serving you)

Indeed! These pirates are smart people. They are knowing how to interpret a rule in their own sense!

Obs311 07-22-2006 11:59 PM

And this is where high Wisdom is handy. I make Tuna Sandwiches that weigh .005 kg and give 200 food. I never need to eat there.

BTW..1 more level and i can make beer (food+250)

Devotchkas 07-24-2006 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam
Instead of restauration, we have now a restaurant. ^^
And maybe it will not be the only one...
It's much more fun to go in the Misty Mug Tavern and order a delicious steak and a grape juice instead of casting a spell to get full.



its really not
the service sucks


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