Banning religious people
 

Am I allowed to ban religious people from my server?

Sadly, I doubt it.

If your server is private or under construction, it is your right to ban whoever you desire. Servers that are on Hosted, Classic, and Gold tabs aren't allowed banning people for reasons beyond those that specifically violate the Game's Code of Conduct.

I thought you wern't allowed to ban if you were a private/uc server?

Oh, and he's hosted.

So can I jail them infinitely?

Sure you could. But that doesn't mean that they will remain jailed infinitely.


@Yen: Can I ban *** people from my server?

Sure you can, other servers do it.
Actually, that's where this stems from. I'm getting sick of people PMing me crap with 'omg r u rly ***??? i dont have a problem with ***s or anything but u do kno god wont let u in heven?? u should change!'

Pretty sure you can't. So far I've seen 2 people globally banned by Ibonic for banning other accounts with a reason like that. Might be because the language was inappropriate, or the overall reason.

This is very subject to change, and you certainly should not be banning people from any server on a discriminative grounding.

Seems like they've been listening to Shirley Phelps-Roper too closely.

If that's the case though, I don't think the ban would be based on religion, but if they are being persistant about that sort of thing, it would probably constitute as harassment.

You can ban people for whatever reason you want. It's just that sometimes you have to make up a fake reason for banning them.

Are you allowed to ban religious people? Why, because they believe there is a almighty person? Or because they are ask you to allow them to wear a headscarf? Or because they knock at everybody door to convert people and selling holy Bibles?
Serious, I dont get the reason why you will ban a group of people without knowing them or their behavior.

They SELL holy bibles at your door now? Dang.

The Jehovah's Witnesses does. :/

Yen, just do what N-Pulse does. Ban people for whatever reason you want and claim you witnessed them using a trainer or any sort of hack. Easy.

I don't think you really read the thread. It's not so much banning anyone with a religion, as much as banning people who harras others because of religion.

The question she asked in her first post was:
so I correlated that in my answer.

As we later read she gets harassed, because of her sexual orientation as I understand it right.
I thought it was meant as a joke, to ask that, because it's out of question. She is allowed to ban people who harasses her or anybody else because of her sexuality, her religion and so on.

I've gotten kicked from Maloria events (by Kevin btw) for 'crossdressing' :\
Anyway, unless a person is saying stuff like "BELIEVE IN MY GOD" :YOU'RE GOING TO HELL ***" etc. I see no reason to ban them :\

Yen is a guy not a girl.

You can't ban religious people but you can ban for sexual harassment. If I randomly pm you saying "LOL ***Z SUK U PPL SHOULD STOPDOING DDAT UR GOING 2 HELL BITHC" then that should = atleast a hardk0re jailing

if you ban religious people we ban ***s.

R U IDIOT? DO U GO 2 SPESHUL SKOOL?

Who votes we ban retards from the forums?

I vote.

Was that a vote based on the hope that I would get banned along with them? :p

What? Can't handle discrimination going both ways? This is a stupid ****ing thread and an offensive idea.

What I can't handle is people who post threads when only reading the first post. Try reading the thread and then understanding why I said that. If it's still too hard for you to understand, ask your mommy or daddy to help you.

hehe
I was going to say the same thing.

Son, it's not my problem if the OP was vague or 'didn't mean' clear cut what they wrote in the first post. There's an edit button, the OP should utilize it or have a mod help them. If they are harassing him, he can obviously ban them for "Harassment." -unless he's too slow to realize that, it's clear that he wanted to start a thread inflammatory towards religious people.

Yes daddy?

Watusay?

Nah, he'd do it in the non-graal-related forum. It happens all the time there.

What's the reason for asking the GraalOnline Communication Center? I recommended asking the members of the Accounts Support staff or members of the Playerworld Administration. The players who post on the forums, their decision doesn't matter?
Correct. Stefan did state this, though, if someone contacts a global staff member wishing to be un-banned for a reason, then the player has the right to be un-banned, if there was no legit reason to ban someone.
Man, stop being stupid.
I'm sure quite a number of staff ban homosexuals.
Then ban them for the reason that the player is talking about sexual related things, which is not allowed on GraalOnline. Just because they are religious about a certain opinion, that's no reason to ban them. Of course, banning them for sexual related comments is quite bannable! In your case, I'm sure it's harassesment. So ban them?
Stefan stated staff can ban players who interrupt their development. Why would what Stefan said be changed? It seems fair. Ban whoever interrupts your development. You pay for your own private worlds, so you should have some rights to it, until becoming Hosted or Classic.
Okiesmokie is so the coolest kid on the GraalOnline Communication Center.
That isn't fair!
Take it to them, Sam. Kingdoms staff rock.
EVILDOOM!
Oh wow. If N-Pulse does infact do that, then someone should speak with them! That's not fair. Plus, the GServer has sever options to detect trainers, so that would provide some proof of trainers, not just someone seeing it. I would report it to Ibonic.
Sam rocks.
Man, report Kevin then.

Other than that, what reason is there for someone to ban someone for expressing their beliefs and opinion? People do it here all the time!
Crono is God.

Believe in Cronoism, or just get off GraalOnline.
GraalOnline isn't a democracy! Your vote won't count!
Banning Okiesmokie is against the rules. If someone attempted to ban him, then that person should be banned.
Man, read the thread.
Man, tell him to get off your lawn, Okiesmokie.
Knowledge is power!
OR, JUST MAYBE, YOU COULD READ THE THREAD. I think so! Gosh.

I don't expect someone to make a clear cut statement in the original post, with a title that reinforces that statement, and then completely alter it later in the thread. "Can I ban religious people?" was the sole question presented, nothing more, nothing less. It's not my problem if by page 2 or 3 they change it to be "Religious people who harass me."

It's obvious he can ban ANYONE who harasses him, for "harassment" which is against the rules. If he was too stupid to know that, then he shouldn't be running a server. This was obviously a thread meant to provoke a response- he got mine.

this.ego++

there is your reason then

That...was....perfect. :D

Anyway, I think Yen just wanted a shocking thread title, and religious people can be annoying sometimes, for example, massing "REPENT, GOD IS REAL, JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY, DON'T GO TO HELL!", etc. See, that can be annoying too (although I would place it in the spam catagory for jailing/banning). Anyway, you can't ban a person for their religion on a hosted/clasic/gold server. But as for dev, anything goes! (WHICH IS A TERRIBLE RULE).

Ban them for harassment then.

1st tell them their church is lying to them, and they're fools to believe it.
THEN ban them for harassment ^^

QFT. Was really simple, this thread's just here to get people riled up.

Erm, then at least quote THE FIRST POST, rather than some other post! THAT WOULD MAKE LOGICAL SENSE, RIGHT?! Right.
Ego? You don't need an ego, Crono. You are God, our life is to boast an ego for God.
Reasons?! That's BLASPHEMY!
Thanks! Though, nothing was perfect, so I assume I did a good job! It's appreciated, so once again, thanks!
Man, religion is apart of this world, can't change that. Whether liked or not, it's not right to just punish someone for being accustomed to a religion that he or she learned.

It's not a terrible rule! If someone interrupts development, then get rid of them! I'm sure when working, no one wishes to be interrupted.
I think this was suggested.

*Re-reads the entire thread*
Yes, it was suggested.
That's wrong.
QFT?

I didn't quote ANY post in my post. Obviously that implies I'm replying to the first post. I don't know where you got that I quoted 'some other post.'

"Quoted for Truth"

An astute observation.

Then make a rule that dev servers can ban if a player gets in the way of developement. Instead of allowing people to ban because they don't like someone.