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Thallen 03-24-2006 08:02 AM

Graal coping with hackers?
 
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Not sure if this has been recognized before, but recently I realized Tenexia (or Tenex, Eclipse) is now "Market Supervisor" of Maloria after constantly hacking UN, Maloria, and other servers. I most especially remember him starting CTF on UN and ending it to give players free EP and warping players to his illegally uploaded level on Maloria, somehow. He's pretty advanced when it comes to hacking, he can reset people's accounts, ban people, and upload his own levels somehow... and now he is staff on Maloria? I got into an arguement with a friend of his earlier on Maloria and he's threatening to ban and reset my account... I thought Malinko said this guy was ID banned? If Tenex even sees this post, I'm sure he'll find some way to reward me on several playerworlds...

Oh, and here's a good little screenshot of him spawning about 50 spiders in one spot to let this anonymous person level quickly. Level 11 in 10 minutes! Notice the "+180 EXP." Fire this guy and ban him... seriously. Maloria is a really good playerworld and this guy makes a joke of it.
And unjail me on Maloria while you're at it.

Edit: Wow... more screenshots. I logged off at the perfect time, before he could reset me, I guess. What a "lucky pricky" I am.

Clash 03-24-2006 08:10 AM

Welcome to Graal the Adventure.
Please enjoy your stay Thallen.

Warcaptain 03-24-2006 09:21 AM

for real :-\ i remember when Ghost Hacker was like... manager of some PW way back when there were only a few PW's after he had done all this crap.

NeoJenova 03-24-2006 02:24 PM

I could add input on this person seeing how I was Admin and Manager during his numerous attacks on Unholy Nation, but I feel the need to stay out of this situation and see how it plays out.

I will give my information to a member of Graal Administration if they choose to take action of course.

Loriel 03-24-2006 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Thallen
he can reset people's accounts, ban people, and upload his own levels somehow [...] he is staff on Maloria

I do not think you fully appreciate the connection.

Tom 03-24-2006 03:47 PM

I know the hacker personally, and he only resets those who say things to him or act like complete somethings. I dont agree with it at all, but thats normally the reason he actually does stuff.

Maloria staff have banned and attempted to remove him from maloria, but he always returns, and for complaining your probably his prime target lol Being police of maloria, what can we do to a hacker that if we jail, will just walk happily right through the door.

Id recommend you take Neos advise and keep out of it :)

Loriel 03-24-2006 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom
Being police of maloria, what can we do to a hacker that if we jail, will just walk happily right through the door.

Who runs your scripting team?

Maniaman 03-24-2006 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriel
Who runs your scripting team?

*****s ran the scripting team at one time, now the non-*****s are busy trying to fix a bunch of junk up.


Also, Market Supervisor isn' technically a staff position.

D4rKv310c1ty 03-24-2006 05:00 PM

Instead of insulting hackers, you should praise them for their work.

Tom 03-24-2006 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by D4rKv310c1ty
Instead of insulting hackers, you should praise them for their work.

Could you possibly explain why we should praise them lol?

Chris 03-24-2006 05:17 PM

Hacking? Doubt it. More like he has hidden codes within the levels. Perhaps an inside job by one of the other staff members that happens to be a friend of this 'hax0r'

CidNight1142 03-24-2006 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom
Id recommend you take Neos advise and keep out of it :)

I don't see how that justifies his actions in any way. If you're having problems with a hacker you should talk to global admins...not give him a staff position and the tools to do more damage.

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Originally Posted by D4rKv310c1ty
Instead of insulting hackers, you should praise them for their work.

I'm hoping you just forgot the old [sarcasm][/sarcasm]s here.

xAndrewx 03-24-2006 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris
Hacking? Doubt it. More like he has hidden codes within the levels. Perhaps an inside job by one of the other staff members that happens to be a friend of this 'hax0r'

Yep. I don't think this person can upload levels.

Tom 03-24-2006 05:21 PM

I think i actually fell right past the sarcasm here rofl Trust me to do that.
Maloria staff are fully aware, but just give globals as much information as possible and they will might hack down on him.

Thallen 03-24-2006 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriel
I do not think you fully appreciate the connection.

"He's pretty advanced when it comes to hacking [...] he can reset people's accounts, ban people, and upload his own levels" - Or maybe you don't appreciate that connection. He doesn't even have RC on Maloria.



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Originally Posted by Tom
Id recommend you take Neos advise and keep out of it :)

Is this what Graal Online is made of? The game, now becoming a business, just 'giving up' and surrendering to a hacker? That's pretty pathetic, and I, at least, won't have him abusing what he can do towards me, at least as a paying customer...



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Originally Posted by Chris
Hacking? Doubt it. More like he has hidden codes within the levels. Perhaps an inside job by one of the other staff members that happens to be a friend of this 'hax0r'

That's a very good possibility, but even then, why do playerworlds have staff members who support these people? Why haven't PWA realized this yet? What exactly do they do?



Now that Stefan and unixmad have decided to create Graal Online into some kind of business for themselves, things like this shouldn't just go unrecognized. If Graal was free, I could easily understand this, but when you have administration on a server on the game actually supporting a hacker, cracker, or whatever Tenex is, that is not good.
Thanks for taking care of my part of this Mania, but I seriously think you should try to get this guy off of your back. While you guys might see him as someone who only does this to 'people who bother him,' it's still a threat. Good luck with that, and I'll help all I can.

Maniaman 03-24-2006 05:56 PM

Ok I have unjailed you. I'm also planning on killing a few people next time I see them online :)

Tom 03-24-2006 06:27 PM

lol i never surrender, im pretty much saying be a snake in the grass ^_^

Loriel 03-24-2006 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Thallen
"He's pretty advanced when it comes to hacking [...] he can reset people's accounts, ban people, and upload his own levels" - Or maybe you don't appreciate that connection. He doesn't even have RC on Maloria.

So you actually believe that someone can ban people and upload his own levels and sticks to annoying people on Maloria?

Chris 03-24-2006 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Thallen
That's a very good possibility, but even then, why do playerworlds have staff members who support these people? Why haven't PWA realized this yet? What exactly do they do?

Because the PWA is infected with this very same behavior.

Warcaptain 03-24-2006 08:28 PM

It's silly to see people arguing so much about such a stupid thing. If someone is hacking, tell Stefan or Unixmad and they will remove them from the game. Period.

They have dealt with big hackers before, and they know how to deal with them. If this person is hacking, abusing or anything of the such they will deal with it.

If we actually had any non-corrupted PWA members they could Police this situation and take proper steps to remove the player, but that wont happen. So just PM Stefan or Unixmad.

And in the mean time, fire him from Market Supervisor and computer/IP ban him. Keep an eye out for him on other accounts, any suspicious behavior at all.

Simple, done.

irule13 03-24-2006 10:24 PM

you realize tenex has like 40 accounts right

excaliber7388 03-24-2006 10:28 PM

If he is this good, why doesn't he take over the world? :p
Or at least graal/maloria
Anyway, just ban him if you catch him, delete what he does.
Personally, anyone that good at hacking should work FOR graal. If he's that good, have him help design anti hacking software. Or am I giving him too much credit?
I jail hackers using trainers, they're not all that smart. But people hacking without a trainer, they should be banned

irule13 03-24-2006 10:32 PM

he doesnt use trainers
and hes good alright hes also bug admin on maloria

Loriel 03-24-2006 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388
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You know nothing about hacking. Get out of this thread.
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Originally Posted by Loriel
I am Loriel!


Tom 03-24-2006 11:43 PM

He's not a threat at all, he can't ban or reset x-x Anymore atleast.

Lord Sephiroth 03-25-2006 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Thallen
Graal coping with hackers?

I see this as well. Known 'hackers' of graal are being made staff all over the place, which they promptly abuse and are never punished for. Graal as a whole has seemed to give up in the fight against hackers, and is more or less supporting them.

NeoJenova 03-25-2006 02:08 AM

What happened to never negotiate with terrorists!

Yen 03-25-2006 02:16 AM

Yeah, Tenex is definately staff.
His IP can't be compared, though.
It's Maloria's staff's failure for hiring him.

They knew he was there, hacking.
Everyone knows about him hacking the extremely insecure systems to reset other players.
As it stands, Maloria has no security. While calani was there, she created a system that catches people hacking god mode and added some security to the drop system, but it's still very much hackable.
If anyone with half a clue were to look at the reset system, it would be simple to see how he used it to reset others. It's incredibly easy for anyone with even basic knowledge of hacking to log on, create some items, 1 hit KO a few people, and then reset everyone online and log off all the while leaving no trace of who did it.

excaliber7388 03-25-2006 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel
You know nothing about hacking. Get out of this thread.

I know a bit ;)

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Yeah, Tenex is definately staff.
I would say this is more of a case of corrpt staff then. Maybe he was given too many rights?

irule13 03-25-2006 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Yen
Yeah, Tenex is definately staff.
His IP can't be compared, though.
It's Maloria's staff's failure for hiring him.

They knew he was there, hacking.
Everyone knows about him hacking the extremely insecure systems to reset other players.
As it stands, Maloria has no security. While calani was there, she created a system that catches people hacking god mode and added some security to the drop system, but it's still very much hackable.
If anyone with half a clue were to look at the reset system, it would be simple to see how he used it to reset others. It's incredibly easy for anyone with even basic knowledge of hacking to log on, create some items, 1 hit KO a few people, and then reset everyone online and log off all the while leaving no trace of who did it.

to my knowledge he can not reset people anymore
they fixed the hole in the system he used

irule13 03-25-2006 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Yen
Yeah, Tenex is definately staff.
His IP can't be compared, though.
It's Maloria's staff's failure for hiring him.

They knew he was there, hacking.
Everyone knows about him hacking the extremely insecure systems to reset other players.
As it stands, Maloria has no security. While calani was there, she created a system that catches people hacking god mode and added some security to the drop system, but it's still very much hackable.
If anyone with half a clue were to look at the reset system, it would be simple to see how he used it to reset others. It's incredibly easy for anyone with even basic knowledge of hacking to log on, create some items, 1 hit KO a few people, and then reset everyone online and log off all the while leaving no trace of who did it.

im posting this for shadowboy987 aka josh xanadu since he can not post here

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Josh- The Shadow of Darkness Envelops us all into a Cold Abyss says:
about the Calani
Josh- The Shadow of Darkness Envelops us all into a Cold Abyss says:
adding that thing
Josh- The Shadow of Darkness Envelops us all into a Cold Abyss says:
that would be Mr. Worry
Josh- The Shadow of Darkness Envelops us all into a Cold Abyss says:
Not Calani
Josh- The Shadow of Darkness Envelops us all into a Cold Abyss says:
Calani was to busy
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removing
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Our staff members
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to worry about our well beings .-.

napo_p2p 03-25-2006 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lord Sephiroth
Graal as a whole has seemed to give up in the fight against hackers, and is more or less supporting them.

It seems to me that 'hackers' have also given up in the 'fight' against Graal.

Loriel 03-25-2006 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Sephiroth
Graal as a whole has seemed to give up in the fight against hackers, and is more or less supporting them.

"Hackers" have stopped attacking Graal as a whole. It is not only individual playerworlds having retardedly insecure scripts. This is not a concern of Graal as a whole.

Crono 03-25-2006 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriel
"Hackers" have stopped attacking Graal as a whole. It is not only individual playerworlds having retardedly insecure scripts. This is not a concern of Graal as a whole.

To be honest Graal was more fun when hackers did attack, it added a fun factor of fear and "fighting back".

Loriel 03-25-2006 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami
To be honest Graal was more fun when hackers did attack, it added a fun factor of fear and "fighting back".

Oh god do not remind me of the fighting back. I remember how we infiltrated one of their bases, effectively negating its usefulness! And then we accidentally blew it up. :frown:

Crono 03-25-2006 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriel
Oh god do not remind me of the fighting back. I remember how we infiltrated one of their bases, effectively negating its usefulness! And then we accidentally blew it up. :frown:

Atleast you got to do something. Nowadays there's nothing to do.

SilentOne1988 03-25-2006 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom
Could you possibly explain why we should praise them lol?

Without me, Maloria would still have their insecure trade system, all that pie and gold sure got the staffs attention quickly, its unfortunate that it has to come to abusing it to get the problem fixed. Then there was blackjack which still manages to be insecure, theres some lame encryption scheme on it, still can freeze your score at 21, but most of graal is too stupid to figure out how to do that, with the weak encryption even.

As for no more hackers on graal.... Graal has grown too complex for the graals stupid people to hack. The dynamic memory allocation is a real pain in the arse, for example, every time the players chat is set, there is a new memory address it moves to.

Loriel 03-25-2006 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentOne1988
The dynamic memory allocation is a real *****, for example, every time the players chat is set, there is a new memory address it moves to.

Can you not just find the memory that holds the address of the memory that holds the chat, and make that point to your own memory that holds lots of hilarious swearwords?

excaliber7388 03-25-2006 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami
Atleast you got to do something. Nowadays there's nothing to do.

I know, the other day someone said a hacker was on. I was ready for some action...
as it turned out, he was an ex staff member who still had his boots...lame :whatever:

Loriel 03-25-2006 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by excaliber7388
I know, the other day someone said a hacker was on. I was ready for some action...
as it turned out, he was an ex staff member who still had his boots...lame :whatever:

"Action"? What kind of action did you expect?


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