Graal2001 graphics and illegal software!
 

So, a lot of the graphics I had designed for Graal2001 were done illegally using unlicensed software. I decided to purchase the same version of the software (I think it's the same version. PSP7.0 or something) which is very outdated, and I bought two of it just to try to make ammends for my crime.

Now, all the bomy-bopot graphics I had made I think did use that illegal software. Would it be wrong to continue to use these graphics? If so, Graal2001 has illegitimate graphics. Otherwise, if I have righted a wrong (corrected a mistake), then that could not only help explain the seeming grand success of this server now, but it can also put me personally at ease knowing I have done the right thing. Moreover, it may put the software owners at ease knowing that they got their money's worth.

In fact, I am even choosing to not use the software CDs, so they have received money from me without my use of the software. Perhaps they would prefer I use the software, as I doubt they designed it to be not used...but I am trying to fix this debacle. Perhaps I already have.

Oi, I knew this would be coming eventually.

If you want my honest opinion, Antago, on a cosmic scale I think the universe won't condemn you for pirated software that you bought and then some.

Just pretend you used free software like everybody else :confused:

Consider it a "trial" period.

It would neither be realistic nor healthy for me to pursue delusions.



Thank you Griffyn. I am concenred about my karma, though. I saw a woman on T.V. today carrying the head of the husband she killed around. Eventually she decided she wanted to throw it over the Golden gate bridge, but the police found her.


I don't want to be the woman who carries her husband's head around...nor do I think anyone else wants to carry this head around. So, I choose to continue to take it seriously. For the record though her husband abused her and she carried the head to prove to herself that she did it for her safety, not out of fear. So, I am wondering if this movie is a sign to me (did I use stolen software for my safety and health, to express myself? And, so, it is not criminal, nor is it criminal to carry the head around/the graphics because honestly it's about the art and well-being, not about a sickness).


I know it might sound strange to some of you, but I support her. I think that if she killed someone who treated her so badly, and she wanted to carry the head around to show that she loved him and had compassion for him but that the abuse was what she didn't want, it's a courageous thing to do and also will benefit her ultimately to have proved that much

Once when I was like 6 or 6 I caught my first fish. After fishing was over, the fish was long dead. I brought it home and cut it up with a butterknife as a 'disection'. I still feel bad. :(

Being atheistic is awesome, I suppose.

I don't think making some graphics using pirated software is quite the same as murdering your spouse and carrying their head around.

Maybe I'm mistaken though.

Haha, this thread is awesome.

what.the.****.

"It would neither be realistic nor healthy for me to pursue delusions."

Yet the boy believes he is telepathic.

Maybe I should buy some tuna and not open the cans... hmm...

Surely that would appease the fishy souls of the slaughtered tuna, to simply go to waste.

I am surprised that so many of you can speak on such profoundly deep levels. I am also delighted, so thanks

No but the situation is not entirely secluded from principles. For instance, is it okay to carry a piece of a crime if the crime itself is justified? Can the crime be justified? The answer is yes.

Murder is, in most cases, not justified by abuse. Especially cutting someone's head off? Come on man. No sane person carries around a human head to show that they care for someone.

Also, you using illegal software can not be compared in a logical sense. You used software that someone made without asking and/or paying for it. While this man abused his wife and put her through hell. If you think that the two are comparable, then you have no idea what the woman went through and you don't understand the situation at all.

I never said they're 100% applicably comparable in that they are sychronized as almost parrallels, but that the story serves it purpose to me at all because it's a story I've heard of, a part of my experience, and I deserve to make sense of it.

And, the point is, I was not able to pay for programs when I was younger, I did not have friends, people around me used drugs and got into lots of fights, and I did not have people that really honestly cared for me, supported me, and wanted to help me out to being myself. Instead, I spent my time away from these negative, destruction, abusive forces, and because of the oppression, sought to express myself artistically for my health and vitality. The major means was graphic work. I was also young, in middle school and highschool. So, I think that if you look at the contrast here (we were both looking for a better life, and looking out for our own sanity and health, even if it meant commiting a crime), they are comparable.

Also, I personally do think that her carrying around his head could me a means of sentimentally communicating the fact that it was not that she didn't love him and wanted him to go away completely, but that she couldn't live with his abuse. She communicated with his spirit while carrying around the head, but eventually decided to throw the head away over the bridge after some time. So, I don't think there is evidence here to call her crazy. Afterall, many people rely on funerals to get the sort of closure they need with a person, even if it is the whole body it is simply a pile of dirt that happens to be in the form of a person. In fact, many tribes and cultures actually do carry around the dead bodies, including the person's ashes as a means of outleting their love and expressing it. So, I am not sure why people honestly freak out and think, "Oh no! She carried his head! That is soooo weird," meanwhile they have probably cried at a funeral and paid respects to a corpse their self.

I think her carrying the head was a means of honoring the man she loved but whom she could not allow to live with her physically anymore because he was physically abusive, and her life and many children needed much better.

This requires GIMP :D

What the hell are you talking about? She was carrying around a human head. In public. A human head. Just the head.

Yes, the head, but if you'll look at society, let's see if what she was doing is really all that religiously strange when you consider other religious practices:

Embalming a body.
Mummification.
Carrying around property from a deceased loved one (perhaps a lockette or something).
Having funerals.
Burying a body in an expensive casket with expensive clothing and stuff.
Visiting graves where the active mind is no longer pravelent.
Carrying around deceased love ones' ashes.
Making an altar of a deceased loved ones' ashes in your house.
Shrinking heads in ancient cultures and carrying them around.
Descalping victims during the French and Native American war and keeping the scalp.


There are many others, but the point is, people do these sorts of things, and she wasn't carrying it bare in public, but rather in a white tupperware type container inside a leather handbag.

Yeah, I see where you are coming from...but didn't you say she was from California? This isn't an everyday practice that she is familar with.

I believe in reincarnation. Some of us have such long histories in various cultures that adjusting ourselves to changes becomes much more difficult.

For instance, people who incarnate as female for many lifetimes in a row and then incarnate as a man may be very feminine and even homosexual for quite some time, perhaps their entire lifetime or even multiple lifetimes until they become familiar with dealing with things in another way.

There are a lot of people who come from a long, long line of various spiritual practices. In fact these are often why many people become gothic, because for many lifetimes they have lived in that way. When it comes to conforming/adapting to new ways of living and the present level of evolution on earth, people might find they are now incompatible. Earth is a school and is a realm. It is a dense/manifest realm that is meant to be stable so that energy may share it and incorporate theirselves into it, building up societies that have the potential to crash. With the possibility of recylcing (the limited use of material here, as opposed to dreams with endless possibilities), we learn lots of things about ourselves. It's another way of existing/expressing ourself and growing, learning, etc. Eventually there will be new realms, and in fact probably are new realms being formed all the time.

My point here is that it's not fair for any of us to blame, judge, and call someone crazy for having been a part of cultures and other various vibrations/realms/experiences that lead them to carry a head around as a religious practice, because we cut so much slack to people already. In fact some people have their lovers frozen in a freezer, or in embalming fluid. Some people actually carry their lovers' bones around on necklaces, a vile of blood, their teeth, etc. It's obviously strange, but for someone who has lived among many tribal incarnations here on earth, there has been much practice with the exploration of the use of physical form of people beyond simply allowing it to decay and be eaten by bugs. For her, perhaps it felt inhumane to dispose of the body herself, and she wanted more so she kept the head as a reminder, as a means of connecting with his energy, and to bring closure when she felt so guilty.

For that, I say, "You go girl. Go throw away your guilt."

Antago it's me Cubes(TeknikkMCL) :) <3

An apology over using stolen software has turned into a philosophical discussion of beliefs, wtf.

This really is the stupidest topic ever.
Wtf man?

... I seriously wonder where the people responscible for bringing us the soap opera get all their free time from.

Anyhow, redemption for piracy. I highly doubt piracy would hurt your Karma =o.. seeying as how my Dogma ate your Karma (.. nvm)
I think Boedha or whatever devine entity you place your trust upon, has way better things to do than to worry about the income for Jasc/Corel. Boedha uses a Mac and doesn't care for Corel software.

You pirated paint shop pro 7 and your feeling bad about it rofl. Man your not even in my league Im already up to paint shop pro 9. Not only that I gave it to other people. Thats like killing your husband and eating him for breakfast atleast right?

Just make sure you obey the pirate's code and always seed after you're finished leeching.

what, are you ****ing nuts?

Worry not young one. I have spoken with an enlightened individual who commented that, as long as your attempt and intention were there, your karma would not be bad.

Everyone should just use GIMP, its enough for Graal porpuse.

I have to say, that I hate illegal software. There are people working hours and hours for that stuff you just download.

If you are not willing to accept things like that, that people make software to live and survive, just take Gimp or something else under free licence.

hi :-)

Oh my God that is the most life saving advice I have ever read

What would Earl do?
That is the underlying question here.

Who is Earl? And, anyhow, I am not a particular follower of any particular soul, be it Buddha, Jesus, or some other teacher. A lot of these brilliant teachers disagree on many topics, although their basic message is very much the same. So, I do not need to look for absolute truth in anyone, but rather simply from within myself as I believe I have all the basic necessities to finding out. It would be a disaster if anything did not.

Screw Earl, Go Brain Boitano!
What would Brain Boitano do if he was here today? He'd make a plan and follow trough!

Antago sounds like an exsistentialist.

This is the funniest and most retarded thread I have read, ever

Oh, thats just purdyful...

He sounds loopy. And I don't mean the infinite kind.