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Wind_Master 11-19-2005 08:07 AM

Plasma g-18 gun
 
This has been suggested many times but has never been made or completely thought out.

This will shoot out multiple plasma shots exactly like the g-18. These will do 7 a bullet and will travel at the same speed as g-18. It is preety much a slightly stronger g-18 that shoots out plasma bullets. You will be able to buy this (if it gets approved) for $5,000 from the dropship traders.

1.Anyone got a name for this weapon?
2.Can anyone make a gfx for this gun? (has to be a small gun)

Sulukra 11-19-2005 08:11 AM

Sounds to me like adding something for the sake of adding something.

Whats different about this gun? Its just a more powerful plasma G18. Its something that costs money so that Trials can't get it. It just gives another edge to the P2Ps. Sounds alot like the red rifle. Where is the balance in this gun? Does it have any down sides, other then the cost?

EDIT FOR SAIYAN:Yes, except we don't want even MORE edges. We have 20 more HP then them. I don't want to just have to shoot them 12 times with a plasma G18 to kill someone who could very easily be way more skilled then me.

EDIT FOR JKOOL666:When I say its like the red rifle, I mean its the same sort of idea, not the same kind of gun. A supposedly more powerful (Though as you said, 7 is not more powerful.) version of an already existing gun. Its really not that different.

SayianOozaru 11-19-2005 09:18 AM

P2P's are supposed to have 'Edges', otherwise there would of been no reason why we upgraded, if you don't get anything from it. But back on Topic. $5000 for some rip of a g-18? -_- Blue Riffle and Red Riffle would pwn that gun, and yet the gun still costs more than them? maybe(if it's bought) it'd go for like 1.2k -_-

jkool666 11-19-2005 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sulukra
Sounds to me like adding something for the sake of adding something.

Whats different about this gun? Its just a more powerful plasma G18. Its something that costs money so that Trials can't get it. It just gives another edge to the P2Ps. Sounds alot like the red rifle. Where is the balance in this gun? Does it have any down sides, other then the cost?

EDIT FOR SAIYAN:Yes, except we don't want even MORE edges. We have 20 more HP then them. I don't want to just have to shoot them 12 times with a plasma G18 to kill someone who could very easily be way more skilled then me.

Actually if you must know these would be weaker then G18. Now don't even try correcting me on G18's, they do 8HP per shot and reading windmasters post I belive he said 7HP per shot. Also regarding trials froget them they can buy P2P. Also it is completely different then a redrifle. If it was a redrifle it would be a *rifle* not a pistol. Also G18 has much less long range, when you shoot it you stop in one place (when you hold down the shoot key). And redrifle also has a charged up shot and if I'm correct hits 13 HP? not 7.

DrDrizzle 11-19-2005 06:11 PM

I agree......=D

Wind_Master 11-19-2005 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jkool666
Actually if you must know these would be weaker then G18. Now don't even try correcting me on G18's, they do 8HP per shot and reading windmasters post I belive he said 7HP per shot. Also regarding trials froget them they can buy P2P. Also it is completely different then a redrifle. If it was a redrifle it would be a *rifle* not a pistol. Also G18 has much less long range, when you shoot it you stop in one place (when you hold down the shoot key). And redrifle also has a charged up shot and if I'm correct hits 13 HP? not 7.

Thanks. And sayian 5k is a good amount. I see people like Venom who has 100k if not more. I bealive 5k is a fair price. 1.2k is way to low. A trial could get 1.2k easy.

DrDrizzle 11-19-2005 06:29 PM

Only if there sitting on there ass for like 1 hour or so they mite have nore that 1.2k >=o

SayianOozaru 11-19-2005 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
Thanks. And sayian 5k is a good amount. I see people like Venom who has 100k if not more. I bealive 5k is a fair price. 1.2k is way to low. A trial could get 1.2k easy.

-_- So 3 or 4 people in the game have 100k+, that's no reason to set the price that high. And Rifles cost more than Pistols -_- (Expesially since Rifles do much more damage)

bahamutstevetff 11-19-2005 08:34 PM

i think it should be very good and cost like 50-70k

Wind_Master 11-19-2005 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff
i think it should be very good and cost like 50-70k

50-70k!!!!!!! Thats way too much.

icemaster 11-20-2005 12:58 AM

i think this would be an interestin weap...price-wise tho, theres really nothing u can do...back wen i was a trial, it took me about 6-7 hours to buy a jpack...i wanted to try that thing out so bad XD, if there was a day with me with no life...that sure as hell was it...

edit: im not gloatin about the jpack, just statin a fact...for the ppl who do know me, they know...i dont gloat...and im not ****y....

6-7 hours aint much, on a weekend for some1, they could make that money then use it neway...so price i dont think matters...5k sounds pretty good tho if a price were to b made

off topic: were there gunna be armor and stuff? i rem jesse tellin me about it WAYYYYYY b4 i even conisdered p2p lol... (sry to b off topic :P)

bahamutstevetff 11-20-2005 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
50-70k!!!!!!! Thats way too much.

thats what i mean, very very few ppl wold have it,it would be very good weapon but terrorbly hard to get.

Wind_Master 11-20-2005 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff
thats what i mean, very very few ppl wold have it,it would be very good weapon but terrorbly hard to get.

It should be 5k as I said.

Huwajux 11-20-2005 10:49 AM

I think "All" such weapons should be raised in price. Too many people can make a quick buck and loot every store weapon there is.

bahamutstevetff 11-20-2005 12:11 PM

yea what dark said

jkool666 11-20-2005 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux
I think "All" such weapons should be raised in price. Too many people can make a quick buck and loot every store weapon there is.

Agreed.
Redrifle- 7k (its now 4k)
Bluerifle- 6.5k (its now 3.5k)
and G18-Plasma Idea 6k

But also I already have all these and I wouldn't mind the prices being raised becasue it doesn't effect me at all. So if theirs a way to give us back our money and re-buy it that would make things fair.

MisterMastermind 11-21-2005 03:04 PM

Yeah I agree with jesse, after maxing out my knives i now have cash to spare.

EDIT:Crap! I still needa max out goonadier (876 ammo and going)

Shadox 11-30-2005 04:23 AM

im sorry, is jesse suggesting that the game give us a low amount of money that can be made in an hour and a half, and strip us of our weapons? (for those who don't know Bluerifle is the only gun I use, I prefer it over Redrifle)

MrsMastermind 12-06-2005 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jkool666
Agreed.
Redrifle- 7k (its now 4k)
Bluerifle- 6.5k (its now 3.5k)
and G18-Plasma Idea 6k

But also I already have all these and I wouldn't mind the prices being raised becasue it doesn't effect me at all. So if theirs a way to give us back our money and re-buy it that would make things fair.

Some people (*cough* me *cough*) can't even afford those at their regular prices, I don't want their price going up.

jkool666 12-06-2005 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadox
im sorry, is jesse suggesting that the game give us a low amount of money that can be made in an hour and a half, and strip us of our weapons? (for those who don't know Bluerifle is the only gun I use, I prefer it over Redrifle)

Yes. Thats exactly what I'm saying. We can all re-buy them. I'm sure you have enough for a more expensive bluerifle. If not earn it. Thats what should happen to these guns. You stated it yourself they can be easily earned in an hour and a half. Whats the challenge in that? On other servers it takes much longer to earn the money or skill to upgrade to better weapons.

Wind_Master 12-07-2005 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jkool666
Agreed.
Redrifle- 7k (its now 4k)
Bluerifle- 6.5k (its now 3.5k)
and G18-Plasma Idea 6k

But also I already have all these and I wouldn't mind the prices being raised becasue it doesn't effect me at all. So if theirs a way to give us back our money and re-buy it that would make things fair.

Why should they be raised in price?

jkool666 12-07-2005 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
Why should they be raised in price?

When you player other servers its a challenge to get lots of money. As a trial your brother got a jetpack... As a trial, which proves its no strugle at all anyone who plays for 1-2 hours can get them. And look at zones difficulty to get better items compared to other servers. UN, I have 70-80 hours online and I don't have all the items. GK, I'm a complete noob to that server and I have quite a bit of online time. Zone, got bluerifle before I was soldier rank... I got soldier on my first day as member (mind you I was excited to be a member so I played a lot).

Wind_Master 12-07-2005 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jkool666
When you player other servers its a challenge to get lots of money. As a trial your brother got a jetpack... As a trial, which proves its no strugle at all anyone who plays for 1-2 hours can get them. And look at zones difficulty to get better items compared to other servers. UN, I have 70-80 hours online and I don't have all the items. GK, I'm a complete noob to that server and I have quite a bit of online time. Zone, got bluerifle before I was soldier rank... I got soldier on my first day as member (mind you I was excited to be a member so I played a lot).

Good point but maybe more items should be sold instead of raising the prices.

Huwajux 12-07-2005 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
Good point but maybe more items should be sold instead of raising the prices.

Who says there won't? ;)
The prices should be raised, it is a little too easy. I asked a few Era people why they prefer Era, it isn't because they have classic membership yet they said "Zone is too easy". They were talking about how easy weapons are gained.

Wind_Master 12-08-2005 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux
Who says there won't? ;)
The prices should be raised, it is a little too easy. I asked a few Era people why they prefer Era, it isn't because they have classic membership yet they said "Zone is too easy". They were talking about how easy weapons are gained.

They are but people like me dont play zone very long. I play maybe an hour a week. So that doesnt get me items fast and neither does it for most people.

Sulukra 12-08-2005 02:13 AM

Jin, we can't make exceptions for a few players. If it'll hold a majority of players there longer, then they should do it. Even at the risk of alienating a few players, they should do it.

Wind_Master 12-08-2005 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sulukra
Jin, we can't make exceptions for a few players. If it'll hold a majority of players there longer, then they should do it. Even at the risk of alienating a few players, they should do it.

I know, im not saying they should keep the prices but why raise them so high?

Akoalin 12-08-2005 03:46 AM

Why should the good guns go to the best players?

Wind_Master 12-08-2005 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Akoalin
Why should the good guns go to the best players?

huh? Who said anything about this happening?

Huwajux 12-09-2005 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
They are but people like me dont play zone very long. I play maybe an hour a week. So that doesnt get me items fast and neither does it for most people.

yeh i think the ppl who dunt play it shud get all the gd wepons, they realy deserv it

Akoalin 12-09-2005 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Wind_Master
huh? Who said anything about this happening?

Having it cost a large ammount of money. Plus, we already have too many pistols, and if it's just a G18 ripoff that's energy using, then it's pointless.

jkool666 12-09-2005 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Akoalin
Having it cost a large ammount of money. Plus, we already have too many pistols, and if it's just a G18 ripoff that's energy using, then it's pointless.

You know your right. I've been actually thinking that to. We shouldn't add to many more guns. If anything we should take a few out. Anything that people call lame was caused by good players. Newbies don't make up lame tacktics on their own. They see better players use it then use it to. So yeah no more guns for a bit and maybe get rid of one or two... Oh and focus on editing guns VS their strength. Balance them out a little.

Wind_Master 12-10-2005 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jkool666
You know your right. I've been actually thinking that to. We shouldn't add to many more guns. If anything we should take a few out. Anything that people call lame was caused by good players. Newbies don't make up lame tacktics on their own. They see better players use it then use it to. So yeah no more guns for a bit and maybe get rid of one or two... Oh and focus on editing guns VS their strength. Balance them out a little.

Guns I bealive should be out of the game:

Chaingun: Does way too much damage
Mines: All they do is cause more lame
Mortars: Are these weapons even used for anything but base laming?

bahamutstevetff 12-10-2005 07:15 AM

*cough*handgun*cough*

MisterMastermind 12-10-2005 07:19 AM

Dunt forget the shotgun. >_< 45-55dmg per hit.

jkool666 12-10-2005 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind
Dunt forget the shotgun. >_< 45-55dmg per hit.

Shotguns need to be in every gun game but I agree they are cheap as it is. Decrease their hp per bullet along with the distance of the shot. And also I was thinking these guns need to be out for good.
Redrifle
Handgun
Pipebomb
And edit the percentage of the other guns.

MisterMastermind 12-10-2005 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jkool666
Shotguns need to be in every gun game but I agree they are cheap as it is. Decrease their hp per bullet along with the distance of the shot. And also I was thinking these guns need to be out for good.
Redrifle
Handgun
Pipebomb
And edit the percentage of the other guns.

Redrifle would be fine if you had absolutely no stun time.
Pipebomb's are easy to dodge in my opinion.
1. Stay close
2. Move Fast
3. Don't move in a easy pattern.
4. Pray you your god(s)/goddess(es) you don't have to reload.

jkool666 12-10-2005 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterMastermind
Pipebomb's are easy to dodge in my opinion.

Yes but when your inside a base and you don't see it coming it can get a little tricky... Expecially if you normally lag when you enter or exit buildings while on zone.

Wind_Master 12-10-2005 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkool666
Shotguns need to be in every gun game but I agree they are cheap as it is. Decrease their hp per bullet along with the distance of the shot. And also I was thinking these guns need to be out for good.
Redrifle
Handgun
Pipebomb
And edit the percentage of the other guns.

Agreed, alot of wepons such as appripper do way too much damage.

bahamutstevetff 12-10-2005 07:33 AM

Ripper is fine.


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