Bomboria Pub...dumb rules
 

I got pillored by Sam the other day because Sam's pet, Gambet went and told on me for playing my war horn in the pub.. Claiming i was disturbing others. I would just like to point out that the warn horn is an npc specifically made to be played. It serves no other purpose. I should not be restricted to being able to play it in certain areas. What if i want to play it while in the pub buying stuff like everyone else? All they have to do is turn sfx down on audio in general options and the problem is fixed. It will not interupt any other sounds on the persons computer. Personally i think this is just an example of Bomboria staff looking for dumb reasons to pillor peoplle. I understand when someone gets pillored for using magic in trade because when you cast it says its not allowed. Therefore casting a spell is abusing a bug. I am not abusing any bug by playing my horn. I should have the right to play it anywhere i want to. I am not breaking ANY rules what so ever. They have the option to ignore it.

*Waits to be flamed and for a list of lame excuses from Bomboria Pub staff*

I must agree with Deo, and not just because he's my friend. Although the war horn is terribly annoying, playing it anywhere is not against the rules. Like Deo said, if it bothers anyone, they can turn the volume down. It's the same with masses. If it bothers anyone, they can turn masses off. PKing- if it bothers someone, they go to peaceful mode. If you pillory someone for being annoying, then you'd have to build more pillories, enough for half the server or more.

Were you asked to stop by pub staff?

LOL

This is a stupid idea anyway, giving more people some power to abuse.

For every day that I work in the pub, there is always someone that is running around, harassing the other customers and staff of the pub. To tell you the turth im rather tempted to run to Samurai and start pilloring people for harassing me. GK doesn't even have a really active staff member to control these people. Maybe we just need security that can kick someone out for a day or so...

Raziel makes good points as well. And why does it matter if i was asked to stop. Why can i play horn anywhere else on the server and not get in trouble except for the pub. It can be annoying in trade, it can be annoying in farming, it can be annoying anywhere but it only matters in one building. That is bs to me. And like i said they have the option to ignore

It is annoying as hell, and you're doing it just to piss people off / bother people. That is disturbing others, it's against the rules of GK. Deal with it.

He was asked to stop playing it, and then continued. Deophite knows he's wrong, he just feels like he has something to prove.

This shows that you wanna provoke and don´t respect others. You are talking about the human Gambet not about an animal.

Right it´s a war horn. It must be escaped you, that the pub is a place of peace, we disabled PKing, and also pet´s are not allowed in there.
Playing a war horn is annoying the guests and so it isn´t allowed.
You have a lot of space outside the pub to play your horn. I think there isn´t anyone who take offence at your acting and so you don´t do it.

If you would know me you wouldn´t say that. I am always talk to the people to stop their acting, than I give them a warning and if nothing helps I punish them if needed.

Pillorys are a part of the role play, they are not a punishment if you cheating or so.
You break the rules of the pub when you don´t know how to behave in a restaurant/pub, nor stop it when pub staff aksed you to stop.

Wrong!
You have the option to stop it. Not ALL others have to put sound off, ´cos ONE have no behave.
And btw Raziel: same for masses. When some people need to discuss personal problems or mass insults they act against rules.

Sorry, but thats also not allowed. Sending someone in kingdom pillory for acting wrong on main (except it´s a kingdom specific part of your kingdom and the person is a member).
We dont need more staff to punish people, we only need people that treat with respect.

Sam Owner of Bomboria Pub

How come peoples apostrophies come out as reverse ` 's. :[

Because they think they are too cool for conventional punctuation.

Goddamn bastards. But seriously, howdya do it¿ Is it some leet crazy cool ascii¿

It could be that they have it as a standard key on their keyboards, or maybe they're just using the charmap.

I have a german keyborad, because I am german and these inverted commas are looking so : ´`. I don´t have others.

Are you sure? I've seen plenty of Germans using standard apostrophes.

I have this ' also, but in germany we dont use them as apostrophes. Other countries foreign ways...

This isn't Germany. This is the internet.

ZH, I was asked to stop but i didnt because it ISNT against any rules. I am not wrong. It is annoying im not argueing that. All i am saying is playing a horn is not breaking any rules...non that i have ever heard of. Don't pretend like this rule exists or was just made because it doesnt and like Raziel said if ppl were pillored for being annoying then half of GK would be pillored. People put about 30 pets in farming. I find that very annoying. Why dont you go pillor the 4 newbs who did that hmmm? You must still be mad that i insulted your buddy Lance. Etiher that or you are simply trying to get back on the good side of staff to get your measly job back.

Argo, you are simply disagreeing with me because of the other thread from a few days ago. You know if it was you who got pillored for playing a war horn in the pub you would be *****ing as well.

Then you're an obnoxious brat and you deserve everything you get. Staff are permitted to act on their discretion, and I'm glad they did so in this instance.

:redface:
Excactly so accept that other countries use other punctation marks, I am sure that´s not too deep for you.

Aren't you listening? How are Germany's customs relevant? This is not Germany!

Other countries use other languages too, but I notice that you're not speaking German.

I guess it's easier for him, man. I've never seen a German keyboard, so I wouldnt know, but it must be a habit for him. Either that, or it's formal to use that type of apostrophies in Germany. Yes, it's the internet, but the internet is accessed all over the world. Some people just type differently since they are use to it, I suppose (or, because it's the correct way to do it in their country). It's not really a big deal.

Deo:

You were pillored once, and then yesturday you were blowing the war horn again, taking advantage of the fact that Sam was not on at the time. Your words were "I dont care, it's worth the 5 minutes in the pillors". This quote shows that you know its innapropriate, but you do it anyways to annoy the players.

Raziel:

If you thought in any way that Deo was right, then that just leads us to believe that you posted this as a friend.

Most of the GK rules are logical. Just common sense things. If magic is disabled in one area, but you find a glitch to use magic, and you start using magic and think that its legal...well...then maybe you are not as educated as you or others thought. If you went to a restaurant and started playing on something as loud as the war horn (in real life of course), then they'd kick you out of the restaurant. If you refused or put up a fight, then you'd be arrested.

The fact that you posted this thread and truly believe what you did was just, well, I guess that tells us something about you.

When writing, maybe. But I'd be very surprised if his version were standard when typing. It's simply less efficient.

Besides that, there are very good reasons to adhere to standards. In this case, it makes searches much easier. What if I want to search for a string that contains an apostrophe? Should I be forced to try every different variant?

It's not like that in this case, so you wont need to worry about it.

Wha? Please define "it" and "that".

I'm disagreeing because you are simply wrong.

And honestly, if I was doing something that assinine and plain annoying - I would kill myself.

Scout's honour?

Do any of you have any meaningful arguments at all? I meen seriously stop dodging the points that i am making. The only thing any of you can say is uhhhh deo its annoying so we gonna pillor you DUUUUUR. If i get pillored for playing a war horn in the pub for it being "annoying" I want you to pillor all the people who put their 34 pets in farming and leave them in front of trade so it is hard to get in sometimes. The difference is , I cant do anything to avoid or stop the pets. But people dont have to listen to my horn. But i guess none of you will ever admit that you have no valid arguments instead of dancing around the subject.

As for you Gambet, just because i said that does not meen i think its wrong. I was simply rebelling and doing it still because i know it is wrong to pillor me. You just got mad because your precious admin wasnt on and you could not do anything about it.

We all know the staff of GK are just so superior and know everything so their view on this subject is perfectly ok. Anyone who is against it is automatically wrong.

The only 'point' you've made is that there aren't any rules about playing warhorns in pubs. That's great. But there don't need to be. Staff are free to act on their discretion in dealing with disruptive idiots.

People shouldn't be forced to alter their settings just to deal with an attention-seeking brat, especially if it means they can't hear other things anymore.

GK is not ran as a democracy, so what in the world are you talking about? What you have done will most likely set a precedent for future events. One of which will be disabled the war horn in the pub. Until then, the staff have all rights to pillor those annoying the players. If the players are annoyed then they will leave the pub, and thats no good at all. You know what you're doing Deo? You're testing the staffs patience. Do you know why I know you're doing this to annoy the players? Because you're doing it in the pub, knowing that it's against the rules. If you felt so strong about your opinions, then as a smart person, you wouldve played your horn somewhere else. Agitating the staff and testing their patience is not smart. You are obviously not as bright as I thought you were, and it wasnt a very high thought to begin with.

Well.. no not really, as I'm sure I've done it. =p

Not necessarily offensive masses, but some people get annoyed by constant advertisement, for example. I don't see how it is any different from playing a horn.

Buying FID!
Buying FID!
Buying FID!
Buying FID!
Buying FID!
Buying FID!
Buying FID!

Would you agree that this is annoying? Well, then you could turn masses off, or put the person on ignore. By the same token, if someone is annoyed by a war horn, they can turn the volume down.

1) Although it's annoying, those kinds of masses do serve a purpose other than getting attention by irritating people.
2) The PM system has the ignore feature as you point out. It's possible to selectively silence other players. If that were the same with idiots and horns, there wouldn't be a problem. But since the players need to sacrifice something to silence one stupid brat, there is.

If something disrupts people's gameplay, and an admin asks/tells you to stop, and you don't, they have every right to take action....read the graal rules, you will find it in there =)

If he doesnt want to stop he doesnt have to stop because his horn is ment to be played. Don't like it? script something to disable it in the pub.

No. But he has to face the consequences if he doesn't.

A dude was singing today through his mic. I found it annoying. Plus, his singing sucked. I turned the mic volume down. Problem solved. Someone else, though, might like his singing, and decide to leave the volume on so he can hear it. YOU CAN'T PILLORY HIM BECAUSE YOU DON'T LIKE HIS SINGING!!!

I suggest you read that post by Moonie, meth.

Ok once again:
The new Bomboria Pub was made to endorse role playing. So it is different to mass messages (btw Raziel, I am not allowed to set somebody on ignore as staff, cos it could be he needs my help).
So when people in the pub role playing and anyone disturbs the guests staff can tell him to stop it or to leave the pub.
And when someone don´t stop and provokes me and all others I pillory him. And if he would go too far, I dont have a problem to ban him for a moderate time.

How about making it so you can right click on people and have a set of options to ignore chat, ignore mic, ignore sfx, etc.?