Originally Posted by ZanderX

Dustari's past is being neglected? >:O

Originally Posted by Nappa

Request thirded.

Originally Posted by GoZelda

Fourtid.

Originally Posted by busyrobot

*sigh*, Explain what you want this time.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Dustari's history is being neglected... Zoe even had the nerve to tell me I've done nothing for Dustari.

Originally Posted by busyrobot

You have done nothing for Dustari in ages. History has its place but it doesn't replace hard work in the present.

As usual, I am sure your interest in Dustari's 'history' has to do with those lands you long since abandoned that you feel you should still hold title to. And as usual, you ignore the part of Dustari's history where you subjected those lands to a long length of neglect.

Speaking of history we held an observance on the 3rd of this month for the fall of Erik Heimdal, but do make any suggestions you like on what elements you feel we are neglecting, assuming they are not tied to long since settled land disputes.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Did I mention land? Nope
Yet you use it as a 'defense'

And I TRIED to help Dustari, instead I was ran off by Zoe. Insulting me, calling me a Racist and Woman hater, calling me un-American. Then later harassing me by PKing me when I was in peaceful mode. So no, I've gave up on trying to help the current fascist leadership.

You never replied to my actual post. You just started to blabber on about my lands.

You did it on the 2nd, and the topic here is Dustarian history. Granted the invasion is history. But if that's as far back as you go then you are in a sad sad shape.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Did I mention land? Nope
Yet you use it as a 'defense'

And I TRIED to help Dustari, instead I was ran off by Zoe. Insulting me, calling me a Racist and Woman hater, calling me un-American. Then later harassing me by PKing me when I was in peaceful mode. So no, I've gave up on trying to help the current fascist leadership.

You never replied to my actual post. You just started to blabber on about my lands.

You did it on the 2nd, and the topic here is Dustarian history. Granted the invasion is history. But if that's as far back as you go then you are in a sad sad shape.

Originally Posted by busyrobot

Yet again, you completely refuse to be specific at all and instead reword or original very vague statement, and of course insult Zoe (who actually is a leader of Dustari)

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

Zoe lead what? The only true RP Event Dustari's done in what, months? Was prepared by you. And it took you so much work to do so too. A whole two days, if I remember.

Zoe's leadership, in all instances where she has acted alone, has proven to promote inactivity, stunt Roleplaying, reject good members, and promote horrid ones.

Originally Posted by busyrobot

She has done a lot of good for Dustari, I know you don't get along with her but what does that have to do with Zurk harassing her and myself? What does it have to do with his *****ic statements where he says things like "Please accept Dustari's past" and acting like he's on crack while never actually making a statement with um, a single detail?

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

Without a single detail, eh? Could you, please, then, detail the good Zoe's done for Dustari? In detail, please.

Originally Posted by Brad

lol busyrobot got owned

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

He's not changing the subject, you're just hijacking the thread to defame me. Nothing more.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

I've already given you detail, according to Zoe basicly noone has led before her. She was just the start and the end. It was if Dustari just magically appeared and she was the leader, as if nobody worked to establish Dustari.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

What Zoe leads is partially the offspring of people such as myself, Gryffon, Tupper, Kamuii (just to name a few on the forums here). There are many more, but apparently they never existed.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

I dont harass you or Zoe, that's just an excuse to get me in trouble now adays. 'OMG ZURK IS HARASSING ME' then the staff dont look into it and pillory me. In reality the truth has shown that she wont stop harassing me.

Originally Posted by busyrobot

Zurk, you are an idiot

Originally Posted by busyrobot

Zurk, you are an idiot, it is honestly hard to comprehend how you manage to walk upright with that big beloated head of yours.

If you want to have a 'discussion' stop stating BS without backing it up, you say truth motivates you, yet you refuse to speak it like its painful to you or something.
You judge the value of each of your words by its grandness of scale, with no bearing on whether it even makes sense.

My I remind you, you have made both started this thread, and then made FIVE posts that made demands WITHOUT STATING a SINGLE detail of what your demands were, until finally you do now, with nothing but a series of obviously and demonstratably incorrect statements with no purpose other than to clearly defame others.

You really need to start a cult or something, everything about your mannerisms and style would fit perfectly with those who are impressed by proclamation and grandeur and never try to think or analyse a person's words they'd rather believe.


The subject was about Dustari ignoring its history, you started the thread, but without any details to the subject given, no content, just the proclamation of your feelings, and then you refuse after multiple requests to actually give a single example of just how you feel we are ignoring our history.

Naturally, I ask if you are begging for lands again, and you fly off the handlebars like I just assaulted a nun. Get yourself together already.

I am insulting you because you have started a thread on the guise of constructiveness without adding a single detail as to what the heck you feel is actually, specifically missing. I can insult you a lot worse, but it is not exactly of interest, all I want is for you to see the way you look to people in general when you act this way, since you have become an embarrasment to yourself and your legacy.

Fact: I have not hijacked this thread, nor was it ever posted as an indictment of Zoe's leadership skills. Gryf was the first to even mention that and it wasn't even on the topic of Dustari's history.

Don't claim I am hijacking a thread when I am not, its not constructive.

And did you quote this from The Book Of Zurk or did you channel it from the Spirit World?
First, as I said, you have not stated a single detail anywhere in this thread other than at the very beginning, "Please accept Dustari's past" meaning that for some reason, you had felt we had not. The only other place Zoe even came up was when we talked about the land dispute briefly in this thread, still not on the topic of history.

So - what detail have you already given me, as you claim? Where in this thread, does it appear?
Also, cite one example of why you think Zoe believes dustari magically appeared when she became a leader here? Why would you even try to say something, that is so obviously flawed?
Are you playing some weird trolling based drinking game?


Why do you feel they don't exist? You also forgot Larrien and Charles, and those are just leaders, not the tons of great people that have made Dustari great just by being here when it has counted over the ages.



You have harassed Zoe on many occations, including myself and others. You even got someone to add you to Zormite so you could sneak into the castle and you refused to move, dispite staff telling you to leave.

The reality is you do not know, apparently, how to not bother people which I suggest you attempt, first by only making genuine attempts to work with others and secondarily, state cases and not proclamations.

If something bothers you, state what it is and what you think can fix it, then don't fly off the deep end if your idea turns out not to work verbatim and gets debated and perhaps modified or scrapped.

Originally Posted by busyrobot

Why do you feel they don't exist? You also forgot Larrien and Charles, and those are just leaders, not the tons of great people that have made Dustari great just by being here when it has counted over the ages.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Read my posts, then you can have able room to argue. Until then you just blab and blab about everything that doesn't include the issue at hand.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

It's not 'BS', but you're too hard headed to even explain things to. So why should I waste my time fighting? No use, I could go argue with a brick wall instead.

Ah, the main point of the thread is history, Gryffon has brought up a valid point about history. Yet you want to insult me.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Zoe told me herself.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

I'm not begging for my 'lands' nor have I ever begged for them.

I didn't forget Larrien and Aftershock, I was merely trying to point out people on the forums that people could relate to. It would be as if I said Billy Bob helped too, no one would know who he was and therefore wouldn't care.

So Padren, please start to read posts before you go mindlessly flaming me.

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

In no particular order:

Kamuii, Asuka, Zulithe, Guy, Larrien, Charles, Khallos, Tupper, Elizabeth, Scarlett, Arthur, Alkaren, Hurumi, Shadow, Adam, Jin, Kirtis, Tseng, Twusk, Adam, Oryan, Zeik, Googi, Aestus, Zandit, Saria, Kramer, Patricio, Hiro, Cody, Antonio, Raziel, Ed, John, Grirahan, Hiroshima, Shawn, Karsh, Nicholas...and the list goes on.

But the "leaders" Zurkiba's listed are so listable BECAUSE THEY HAVE DONE THINGS TO MAKE DUSTARI GREAT. If I were to ask ANYONE currently in Dustari to take a short test, a written and an application test on both BASIC, RUDIMENTARY RP skills and even the simplest Dustari history (ie, Dustari's capitol is, who was king before Padren, when was the last time you even saw Zoe on, for that matter, do they even know WHO the Queen is?) ..how many would pass?

Originally Posted by busyrobot

How many in Forest could answer the name of Erik's right hand man during the Astri wars?

History was your pet project when you were in Dustari, and if you think we have ignored 'the past' I may remind you both Zoe and I asked you to be Prince a long time ago, so when we retired an 'oldbie' would be the next leader, and while I don't blame you for not wishing to, you can't ignore that we have both cared about the past.

Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

Cared about the past by offering to appoint me the Prince? Let's just think on the logic of the past here for a second: Gryffon is over nine centuries old. Just run the logistics yourself ;) . But as for you caring about the past, Padren, you and a select few are the only ones. And which ones these people be, if I listed them? The leaders. The ones you just tried to verbally cruxify Zurkiba for listing as the main factors behind a kingdom are the same way you defend yourself against an argument.

Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Why is the thread now based around me? Is your only purpose to defame me? To make me look bad?

Why does the answer have to come from me? Why not someone else? An Answer is an answer. But no, you just want to call me stupid.

I've already answered your questions, so it's rather you cant read or you're not reading the posts. So dont get mad at me because you dont read the posts, you just jump in and start replying 'OMGZ ZURKIBA IS STOOPID LAWLZ'.

Originally Posted by busyrobot

If I went into the Forest forum, posted "Please accept the past" and then when asked by someone wtf I meant, told them I'd PM them, then when asked by Chris wtf I meant, I just rephrased the same statement as a vague "Forest needs to accept its past" and when queried on wtf I actally meant for a second time, just simply had a spaz attack and said 'OMGZ CHRIS IS STOOPID LAWLZ' without adding a single either critisism about how history was being neglected nor a single constructive statement on how it could be rectified......I'd expect Chris and every intellegent person there to flame me.

Originally Posted by GoZelda

Forest != Dustari.

Originally Posted by busyrobot

You are kinda thinking like zurk now, you are looking for problems. Recall, you were actually playing with starting a whole new character, and did some RP to that effect about that time, and having a player become prince is not the same as having a character become prince. If you were less confrontational right now you'd have realized that your self.

Also, I never spoke any ill to Zurk for mentioning those names, those are fine names, and I wouldn't say otherwise. I am angry at him, because he is yet to say in what manner Dustari is failing to respect her history. He has yet to say "you know guys, you are doing things like such and such, but if you were to do this and that, you could improve how Dustari relates to her history" or something constructive like that. So far he has offered nothing at all, and that just angers me because its so useless, and yet he's so offended because no one knows what the heck he's talking about.

Originally Posted by GoZelda

If they're not identical your comparisement makes no sense.