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matt8891 12-10-2004 01:54 AM

Make player accounts more secure...
 
I think i posted this in the right place...

Would their be any possible way to make accounts more secure when logging on. I mean hackers hack account passwords left and right for their own pathetic reasons. I was recently banned on N-Pulse and Jailed on Unholy Nations. I play those servers the most and to have someone hack my password and do this is rediculous...Accounts should be more secure in some way such as :

IP and if your on another CPU you would need that password to change your IP to the current IP your connected to..Graal Account and IP changer for the account would have to different passwords to make it more secure. The focus of this thread is'nt ONLY for my reason but this has happened to 2-3 of my friends and alot of other people im sure. And to have hackers get the passwords with ease is rediculous. Especially for a player who only plays 1 server (Yes some do this). So it's basically a waste of their money having to upgrade an account and get it banned where they play the most. Something needs to be done..Changing your password all the time still doesnt fix the problem

Kaimetsu 12-10-2004 01:57 AM

These "hackers" don't get your password unless you give it to them. It's hardly Graal's fault, and I don't think sensible people should be put through extra hassle because of it.

matt8891 12-10-2004 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
These "hackers" don't get your password unless you give it to them. It's hardly Graal's fault, and I don't think sensible people should be put through extra hassle because of it.

I for one DONT give my password to anyone....and believe or not...Theirs ways to get passwords...Im sure theirs plenty of password crackers out there >.>

Kaimetsu 12-10-2004 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by matt8891
I for one DONT give my password to anyone

Then nobody has your password. It's that simple.

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believe or not...Theirs ways to get passwords...
What, through arcane divination? Telegnostic rituals? I'm not saying the victims intentionally give away their passwords. They're just too naive, ignorant and/or stupid to protect themselves.

matt8891 12-10-2004 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
Then nobody has your password. It's that simple.

It's not that simple considering im banned and jailed on 2 servers over only a 3day period. I dont even have "Save password" checked.

I all i want is some improvements in account log-ins if possible. Im sure this can happen. It wouldn't hurt to try..

zokemon 12-10-2004 03:06 AM

SOmeone could have put a keylogger on your computer

Slash-P2P 12-10-2004 04:25 AM

Graal should make you email validate every different IP you use (atleast if the first 3 numbers are different).

xAndrewx 12-10-2004 10:08 AM

You are responcible for your own account.

NicoX 12-10-2004 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by zokemon
SOmeone could have put a keylogger on your computer

yes, a keylogger or a trojan....
maybe someone sent you a file via AIM or MSN or ICQ or whatever with a virus and got acess to your passwords..so its your fault =/

Kaimetsu 12-10-2004 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by matt8891
It's not that simple considering im banned and jailed on 2 servers over only a 3day period

I guess you should be a little more careful, then.

NicoX 12-10-2004 02:50 PM

u should buy a antivirus programm or a firewall to save ur computer..

Spark910 12-10-2004 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
These "hackers" don't get your password unless you give it to them. It's hardly Graal's fault, and I don't think sensible people should be put through extra hassle because of it.

I agree with Kai. It would only increase the work load by people IP locked out of accounts, not what we need. Lots of people dont get their account stolen, and personally I have never had mine taken and there is nothing stopping anyone going on client if they have my password. But I don't signup for fake global staff applications, leave my password in an email in an insecure hotmail account or give it out to spark9ii on AIM!

NicoX 12-10-2004 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Spark910
But I don't signup for fake global staff applications, leave my password in an email in an insecure hotmail account or give it out to spark9ii on AIM!


xD löl

Loriel 12-10-2004 05:05 PM

No, it should not.

Slash-P2P 12-10-2004 09:57 PM

I've never had my account stolen. Don't give your password out to anyone, memorize it, don't log on computers that someone else could use your password from (or scramble it once your done), and if you can't memorize your password, write it down. Don't keep your password on your computer.

Crono 12-10-2004 11:57 PM

VISITING HAX SITES, CONNECTING TO 1337 HAXORS ON AIM, OPENING SUSPECIOUS FILES, AND MESSING WITH TRAINERS WILL GET YOUR PASSWORD STOLEN DAMNIT.

Seriously how can people get "haxed" on graal? You'd have to be an idiot to have your password taken.

Nitkizi 12-11-2004 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami
VISITING HAX SITES, CONNECTING TO 1337 HAXORS ON AIM, OPENING SUSPECIOUS FILES, AND MESSING WITH TRAINERS WILL GET YOUR PASSWORD STOLEN DAMNIT.

Seriously how can people get "haxed" on graal? You'd have to be an idiot to have your password taken.

<3

matt8891 12-11-2004 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by zokemon
Someone could have put a keylogger on your computer

Iv'e heard about this from numerous people...How would i remove this keylogger?

NicoX 12-11-2004 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by matt8891
Iv'e heard about this from numerous people...How would i remove this keylogger?


a keylogger is a virus
so u should delete them with an "antivirus programm" :)

Kaimetsu 12-11-2004 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoX
a keylogger is a virus

No.

NicoX 12-11-2004 10:18 PM

ehr ? someone send it to you so it gives him acess to ur passwords or ?

Kaimetsu 12-11-2004 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoX
ehr ? someone send it to you so it gives him acess to ur passwords or ?

You think that is the definition of a virus?

NicoX 12-11-2004 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
You think that is the definition of a virus?


ehr if u can get passwords from him u can say its a virus
but whatever ?

Kaimetsu 12-11-2004 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoX
ehr if u can get passwords from him u can say its a virus

Your definition of 'virus' is 'something that gets passwords'?

NicoX 12-11-2004 10:26 PM

O.o it gets the password from other ppl so yes ?
it gives u acess to his computer datas or forum passwords or whatever x-x

Kaimetsu 12-11-2004 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NicoX
it gives u acess to his computer datas or forum passwords or whatever

What precisely do you think the word 'virus' means?

NicoX 12-11-2004 10:29 PM

virusses can give u acess to a computer or can even destroy it X_X

Kaimetsu 12-11-2004 10:31 PM

That is not how the word is properly defined.

Zurkiba 12-11-2004 10:33 PM

I'm going with Kai and Gerami on this one...

Hackers just dont go
OH ACCOUNT matt8891
the password must be I23ntFG4 (not a real password)

Sure, they COULD go through the terrible task of trying every single combination, doubtful though.

How did they get your password and your friend's passwords? Simple, you downloaded malficious items. These include Graal Trainers.

NicoX 12-11-2004 10:33 PM

hrm
so? then tell me :D

Kaimetsu 12-11-2004 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Zurkiba
Simple, you downloaded malficious items

Dude, stop saying that. It's not a word.

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Originally Posted by NicoX
so? then tell me :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_virus

Zurkiba 12-11-2004 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
Dude, stop saying that. It's not a word.

I only recall it being said once on my part ;)

And it seems like a word :(

Kaimetsu 12-11-2004 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zurkiba
I only recall it being said once on my part

You have used it twice! I held my tongue the first time, but after the second I could stay silent no longer!

calum 12-11-2004 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by matt8891
I for one DONT give my password to anyone....and believe or not...Theirs ways to get passwords...Im sure theirs plenty of password crackers out there >.>

Maybe you shouln't download dodgey programs or visit suspicious websites.

Zurkiba 12-12-2004 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu
You have used it twice! I held my tongue the first time, but after the second I could stay silent no longer!

Oh well.. I mean look what state I live in

matt8891 12-12-2004 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by calum
Maybe you shouln't download dodgey programs or visit suspicious websites.

I dont do any of that.

Loriel 12-12-2004 12:50 AM

So if you say it is not the players' fault that their accounts get stolen, are you implying that there is a weakness in Graal's systems?

If that is the case, why do these evil hackers not steal Stefan's account, or mine, or some other admin's, instead of accounts of people no one cares about?

Slash-P2P 12-12-2004 01:58 AM

Good point, Loriel.

If you want a free program to remove keyloggers and other junk, I use Spybot: Search & Destroy

Loriel 12-12-2004 02:49 AM

format C:

matt8891 12-12-2004 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel
If that is the case, why do these evil hackers not steal Stefan's account, or mine, or some other admin's, instead of accounts of people no one cares about?

Because your accounts are more secured....Joking :whatever: ...Im not saying theirs a problem with Graal im just saying their could be improvments made to decrease the ammount of problems with accounts.


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