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MasterNuke 05-14-2004 10:39 PM

Item ideas
 
Yep... Another item idea threads.. try to be a little more origional guys...

Event item: Monk Sash of Celerity(dam+20)(speed+7)(str+2)(dex+2)(con+1)(ac+ 3)(wc+3)(no weapons)

Event item: Gloves of Iron Fist(dam+14)(str+4)(wc+4)(no weapons)

Dustari Item: Dustarian Bastard Sword(dam+12)(wc+1)

Zormite Item: Crustation Curiass (ac+5)(armour+35)(cha+1)(wis+1)(con+1)

Forest Item: Boots of Shadowstalk (ac+1)(armour+2)(dex+2)(speed+4)(stealth)

Samurai Item: Will of Samurai (helmet)(str+1)(dex+1)(con+1)(wis+2)(ac+4)(wc+1)

Pirate Item: Cursed Bandana of Blood Lust (str+4)(dex+4)(con+4)(int-6)(pow-6)(wis-6)(cha-12)(100% spell failure)(sustinence-75)

Ziro_Vitrudestec 05-14-2004 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterNuke
Pirate Item: Cursed Bandana of Blood Lust (str+4)(dex+4)(con+4)(int-6)(pow-6)(wis-6)(cha-12)(100% spell failure)(sustinence-75)

Put a "cursed" attribute on it! Maybe that attribute can also come back up even after it's removed- like after a few days... or just when you trade it.

Splke 05-14-2004 11:39 PM

Overpowered. People DONT NEED THE WC FROM WEAPONS TO HAVE OVER -50 WC >.<

I love that you thought of a bastard sword, but a bastard sword is a huge, tall, heavy sword. Dam+15 - ish and speed-2 (no shield) would be good.

Also, sustenance seems to be bugged. Sword with +100 sustenance eat your food away at 500 per second (stryker found it)... so, -75 would be like, 75 food per second which could be reversed by Bile.

Also, how come your focusing so much on the top 3 stats Ed? I figure you'd have inovating pow+ wis+ items. :frown:

ZER0_H0UR 05-15-2004 12:24 AM

Good lord, they're all so overpowerd!!!

Brad 05-15-2004 03:11 AM

i want gloves ;[

Python523 05-15-2004 03:21 AM

I want all items removed and just have basic items and just have event prizes have the same stats :\ the game would be much better

Brad 05-15-2004 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Python523
I want all items removed and just have basic items and just have event prizes have the same stats :\ the game would be much better


No way jose thatd be SOOO bad.

Splke 05-15-2004 03:26 AM

Aye... your creations are coming back to haunt you :rolleyes:

Dehitay 05-15-2004 03:58 AM

I want to kill off the AC and WC system
Would be sweet if we needed skill to beat people in a fight

Splke 05-15-2004 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Dehitay
I want to kill off the AC and WC system
Would be sweet if we needed skill to beat people in a fight

AC / WC system is part of the RPG-ish feel to the game. It also makes it so all monsters aren't like Baddies, and that you have a reason to level.

Also, it does take skill. You've got to know how to beat somebody. High ac = magic, high hp = lame, better then you in every way = flaming aura.

Muha_builder 05-15-2004 05:51 AM

The game would be much better without duped and staff created items aswell.

Dehitay 05-15-2004 06:06 AM

The thing about magic
unless they're quick as <insert quickness anaology here>
they can't cast the spell before you smack them
so you could just attack them any time they pull out a wand easy
and with no ac or wc, it would take the reflexes you need on Classic and the other servers
Which means Dehitay would have the advantage
Mwahahahahahahaha

MasterNuke 05-15-2004 07:08 AM

Back from prom... thinking up more...

Event Item: Silken gloves of Wizardry (int+2)(pow+1)(75% cast time)
Event Item: Circlet of Sages (wis+2)(cha+1)(grace_regen+1)
Craftable item: Pearl Battle Sceptre (pow+1)(wc-2)(dmg+4)(wand + weapon)
Craftable item: Spellsword (dmg+6)(weapon + wand)

Monster Drop: Iguanadon Ribcage (ac+2)(armour+30)(regen+1)
Monster Drop: Petrified Demon Hand(amulet) (Random+1)(random+1)(random-2)


If you want balance... balance the game... the reason why everyone has so much stuff is because as everything enters the economy... nothing exits it.

If you don't like the system... sudgest to junk the whole thing or don't play... I'm just back because I'm sick of every other system.

WanDaMan 05-15-2004 10:28 AM

ac + 5 = no!!
enchant to +10 *wazam!*

I like the random though :cool:

Splke 05-16-2004 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WanDaMan
ac + 5 = no!!
enchant to +10 *wazam!*

I like the random though :cool:

In the end... AC+5 only gives an extra 1-2... It's nothing special, just looks big.

MasterNuke 05-16-2004 05:45 PM

So... is anyone else going to make some ideas?

Event Item: Cursed Phantom Blade(str-3)(dex-1)(con-2)(wc+2)(dmg+9)(attacktypes:physical, ghosthit)

Craftable Item: Leather Armor(ac+2)(armour+25)
Craftable Item: Studded Leather Armor(ac+2)(armour+28)(dmg+1)
Craftable Item: Reinforced Leather Armor(ac+3)(armour+25)

GoZelda 05-16-2004 07:44 PM

Event/Alchemy: Dagger of Cunning - int+2 dex+2 con-3 ac-2 wc+1 dam+3
Craftable/Alchemy: 2-handed Sword - str+1 dex-1 wc+2 dam+15 (No Shield)
Monster Drop/Event: Giant's Axe - str-2 (heavy!) dex-2 wc+3 dam+30 (No Shield)
Craftable: Ogre's Club - dam+15
Event Item: Moon Shield (When day/light is implemented)- ac+2 armour+4 and bonus at night: magic+1 pow+1 resist magic+10
Shadow Orb: (like talisman, with day/night) Stealth, see further when dark

Monkeyboy_McGee 05-16-2004 08:50 PM

craftable - leather armlet (bracer) (ac+1) (armour+1)
craftable - leather gloves (ac+1) (armour+1)

gap needs to be closed, i guess.

Myomoto 05-16-2004 09:17 PM

Leather armor: +1ac (+15 armour) weight: 10 kg, doesn't slow you down, craftable, takes 3 cloth, 1 skin, 2 boards, made in the Bogneria armor crafting place...

Monkeyboy_McGee 05-16-2004 09:22 PM

Hey yeah, leather armour that doesn't slow you down sounds pretty neat actually.

Myomoto 05-16-2004 09:29 PM

should still cause spell failure though ;P

thelostviking 05-16-2004 11:58 PM

Craftable: Jesus Ring str+20 dex+20 con+20 wis+20 int+20 pow+20 cha+20 dam+10000 food+100

Iam not serious with this, and i hope you were'nt serious with your recipes. They would unbalance the game even more.

MasterNuke 05-17-2004 12:02 AM

No it's just ideas... maybe spark a few inspirations. There are way too many items that make no sense.

axman36 05-17-2004 03:57 AM

big damablade: (attack:20) note, if you bless it, all what happens is that the attack goes up by 1.

Dehitay 05-17-2004 05:18 AM

Ring of Artics (resist cold +100)
Ring of Magma (resist fire +100)

osrs 05-19-2004 06:39 PM

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Well, this ring should be added too. ^^

Dach 05-19-2004 07:11 PM

My suggestion, new battle system. Not just "ooh look I hit dir+s and it shows a different attack with different pow" o.O. Rather, you have attack combos (think Zelda, PSO, any fighter game, so many other games I don't remember) that are divied as thus;
-strengths-
low -> quick
medium -> medium
high -> slow
-directions -
high
middle
low
sides (straffing)

obviously a full array of attacks would be sever overkill for Graal (2d sprite game = hard to tell what is going on with complicated attacks), so maybe just kill the high and low attacks (where you are attacking) and keep the quick, medium, and powerfull strengths with head on and side attacks. This would allow battling to be much more fun and less of a hit-n-run type deal (you can still hit-n-run but that would be your choice).

EDIT(forgot about the combos): when you hit 3 strikes in succession, the time to attack is lessened on more powerfull attacks and weak attacks are strengthened (either like PSO where you can do combos anywher, or like WW where you have to be hitting something to do a combo (I prefer WW myself)) it would also be cool to have different ganis stringed together for the combos, slice horiz left, horiz right, jab or so

Instead of the WC/AC system *cough*makesGKitembased*cough* base them on players level directly. It seems silly that one could get strong weapons/armour and bless/EA/IWD it out the arse and restart their char, get the items back and lvl up to 20 in no time at all. Kiling the system altogether isn't really neccessary either, since you could just limit the effect items have on your WC/AC and just tie it to your char's level (AC/WC + lvl*someconstant.75orso). That way items still have an effect, but not as much.

These suggestions would require a hefty renovation of the current system, but it would make a better game IMHO. (current replay value of GK = null, save for the community... y'know cause there are soo many cool/nice people :rolleyes: )

MasterNuke 05-20-2004 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dach
My suggestion, ...

Thanks for going off topic... go post in the suggestions forum.

Craftable: Riding Slacks(body slot)(speed+1)(horse speed+1)
Event: Cloak of Flames(attuned: Fire)(resist fire+20)
Craftable: Heavil Skin Gloves(attuned: cold)(resist cold+10)
Craftable: Dievil Skin Gloves(attuned: fire)(resist fire+10)
Event: Holy Halberd of Haste(naginata type attacks)(dam+11)(speed+2)(attacktypes: physical, blinding) wt. 6.0kg
Event: Boots of Plainswalk(speed+2)(wis+1)(int+1)
Event: Ring of Resistance(resist all +10)

Brad 05-20-2004 04:21 AM

weapons and wands dont work or something weird

or no im wrong wands cant have stats on them like int +1

Splke 05-20-2004 04:57 AM

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i hate this new vbulletin

it said TWICE so far (after making a 20 item list) that the link was invalid -.-

I remember Alarid made this, gfx for a rednblack sword, and i wanted to see it made into a

Crude Tulwar of Quickness - Dam+11 Speed+2 AC-4 Wc+1 (duel weildable ; wc stacks, ac stacks negatively)

^.^ Great for breaking AC, but leaves you vunerable. ^.^

exm. 2 Weilded, One blessed too Ogma+8, one blessed to Dianchect +3

Ogma+8 = +12 ac (based on D&D rules) and -9 WC
Dian = +7 AC -4 WC
Speed = +4 for both
Dam = +22 for both

So, it would bring your ac down (+)

+19 ac
and give you (-)
-13 WC

Sounds good to me! Just would have to make a script for it, and change the values on one of them, making it a shield type, that added damage. Not sure how the GFX would look, but hey, I'm sure it would be an AWESOME pirate look.. (cross slashs, merciless double jabs.. -drool-)

darkreign3 06-10-2004 05:06 PM

The items sound good..... but we all know what will happen the strong eople who allready have -60 wc will get ahold of them and become stronger.... no weak person gets any good item because every one hogs the god ones.

Medabee5111 06-17-2004 09:47 PM

Ideas:

Flipsword (may be changed) (Attack + 5)(WC+1)
Notes: heres the neat part about this sword, if you hit a player with it, their AC and WC will temporarily be switched! (long enough to get 1-2 hits in) making this sword pretty damn usefull agains't AC bastards, also gives good reason to not only have AC, but also try to get WC, and blessing this sword makes the effect last about 1 slash longer per 2 bless levels, so bring it to +10 and it's effect lasts for 6-7 hits, maby thats a bit too much, but all the variables can be switched around and stuff, i don't really care.

Ring of the Dreadlord (Life Steal)
Notes: This ring ONLY gives the specile effect of life steal, wich makes it turn 1/6 of the damage you do into HP for yourself, pretty nifty, but maby it should only steal 1/8 or 1/10 of the damage you do, maby it should depend on your attack power? open for possiblilitys

Gong Shield (Defence +3)(AC+1)
Notes: when you block with this shield, it'll make a gong sound that shakes you around alot and makes the enemy hit you 10% less for 1 secend, each EA level increses miss % by 2 and duration of the effect by half a secend, any of these variables may be edited around a bit

i'm open for comments/suggestions/flames about me or my item ideas

EDIT: NOT ONE OF THESE should be event items! thay should ALL be alchemy items!

Monkeyboy_McGee 06-17-2004 09:59 PM

Gong shield doesn't make sense since gongs vibrate to make their sounds, and if you get hit on a shield that's going to vibrate like a *****, then it will make you vibrate too, which means your attack would probably go down rather than up because you're standing there looking like something made outa jelly in a cartoon lol o_O

Oldbie 06-17-2004 11:10 PM

I actually had an idea of making Double swords...The gani could throw the shield on your back like the bow does, naturally it wouldn't do a LOT of damage because you'd attack a lot fast....Does that sound good?

Medabee5111 06-18-2004 01:44 AM

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which means your attack would probably go down rather than up because you're standing there looking like something made outa jelly in a cartoon lol o_O
LOL! your right! i edited it, now it shakes you around a bunch wich makes the enemy(s) hit you less often. (% to miss)

also, more ideas!

Flash Dagger (Attack+2)(Speed+1)
Notes: this dagger swings REALLY REALLY FAST (wich explains attack+2), and gives speed+1 so you run around faster

Air Boots (AC+1)(Speed-1)
Notes: these allow you to walk on water, very nifty indeed, gives speed-1 BUT WHO CARES! also it will allow you to get those dang fish you need for sushi! ME WANT TUNA ROLLS!

Glider
Notes: ok, this thing goes into your weapon slot when in use, and when you pull this out, your running around with a hang glider type thingy, and if you can run fast enough, you can glide! you press S to take it out, once it's out, you press S to jump or A to get off, if you jump from the top of a hill, you go farther, you can also stick your boat a bit out at sea and then just jump to it, or line up a few boats and hop across them, or jump a fort wall if you get a good hill to jump off, could help alot with wars, also makes positioning a fort a little harder cause you gotta take gliders into account, the possibilitys are endless! and it can't really be used to travel across the water cause, well, you just land in the water

Comments/Suggestions/Flames are accepted in every Masaki's Weird Ideas Shop around the world ;P

Zero Hour 06-18-2004 02:28 PM

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Dark shield (ac+1) (armour 11)
7kg

Craftable.
3 iron
2 coal

Monkeyboy_McGee 06-18-2004 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour
Dark shield (ac+1) (armour 11)
7kg

Craftable.
3 iron
2 coal

Tasty, although the shield is a bit dark and bland :s

Medabee5111 06-18-2004 10:28 PM

more ideas ^_^

Boomerang (Attack+3)(WC+1)
Notes: Ever gotten bored of just having swords, bows, nagintas, ect.? well heres the answer, a boomerang! it goes into the slot every other weapon goes in, pressing S makes you throw the boomerang, and once it goes as far as it can, it tracks back to you, there could be many boomerangs, and their even bless-able! downside of it is, if it misses the target, you gotta wait untill it comes back to you to throw it again, actually even if it hits the target you gotta wait.

Claw (Attack+4)(WC+1)
Notes: Another new weapon type! the Claw, it basicly looks like a glove with sharp metal blades sticking out of the front, has 3 attacks: Horizontal Slash, Vertical Slash and Stab, bless-able, downside of it is it's close range like a dagger.

Comments/Suggestions/Flames are accepted at every Masaki's Weird Ideas Shop around the world, as always, thank you.

Oldbie 06-18-2004 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyboy_McGee
Tasty, although the shield is a bit dark and bland :s

Hense the name you Jack @$$

axman36 06-19-2004 07:07 AM

pet ring:one hug(with ring on) and the pet loves you 100%
grow up ring:1 hug(with ring on) on a baby horse and it will be full grown
breed ring:if you get a white horse and a brown horse, even if they have the wrong gender bug(needs to be fixed), theyll breed.
instant kill animal ring:hit an animal with your sword(with the ring on) and food will be right where the animal was.


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