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XiLe 02-29-2004 06:17 PM

Frozen Legacy News
 
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1. We have our own forums: http://enterprizehosting.com/~urban/...x.php?act=home They're not always up but it's nice to have em.

2. Since some people haven't been able to download our tileset I'll be uploading it here occasionally (couldn't get it to work on our own forums o_o)

Stay tuned for more updates.

Spark910 02-29-2004 06:20 PM

Isn't that a direct Era on the paths anyway and erafied on the others....?

XiLe 02-29-2004 06:36 PM

o_o Bah... so then... I'll have a talk with DrastiC Vendetta and we'll start on pics1...

XiLe 02-29-2004 06:51 PM

Because DrastiC Vendetta never got a forums account and his account is expired and such, I agreed to post this for him:

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Originally PMed by DrastiC VendeTTa
Hello Spark. I understand that you think the tiles I have created are too 'Erafied'. I can see how you can say that. But you must understand. Obviously, Era is a modern server with modern tiles. Bravo is also a modern server with modern tiles, as well as Graal X and more. I'm sure these servers tried their best to make their modern tiles unlike Era as
much as possible. But even when we do, people still log on and say " What an Era rip " just because it is a modern server. The tiles I made are not copied off of Era in any
way. I've tried my best to make my tiles different from Era. But they will still come out in players eyes as " Era ". These tiles should be allowed, regardless what people think,
because Graal itself should welcome more modern servers to compete with Era. No matter how much players all it a rip off, as long as we have not taken a single tile from
Era's tileset, we should not be in any trouble. I strongly recommend you to reconsider your descision and give us a chance.


URBANLEGEND 02-29-2004 06:51 PM

Yeah, FL is going awsome.. I cant wait till it goes public XiLe..



(I host the site, Wee!)

Gman4pwnu 02-29-2004 07:05 PM

and of course my awesome scripting will make it even better xD I cant wait til we go public either, goin to be a long time tho.

Nick1988 02-29-2004 07:22 PM

Heh, I don't see any "frozen" tiles in there.

Damix2 02-29-2004 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by XiLe
Because DrastiC Vendetta never got a forums account and his account is expired and such, I agreed to post this for him:


What his is saying is that the path is not similar...its exactly the same

xManiamaNx 02-29-2004 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by Gman4pwnu
and of course my awesome scripting will make it even better xD I cant wait til we go public either, goin to be a long time tho.
right.....

zell12 02-29-2004 08:37 PM

Wow who cares, honestly. Era made tiles for GraalOnline, so I dont see how another Graal Online server cannt use them. But I don't even think these tiles came directly from Era. Prove it.

XiLe 02-29-2004 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by Damix2


What his is saying is that the path is not similar...its exactly the same

No he's saying he didn't copy it but it's hard because everyone has Era on their mind... that's what I interpreted at least.

If Graal has a realistic oak tree, then I drew one that looks realistic, chances are they would look similar if it's two good artists.

WanDaMan 02-29-2004 09:27 PM

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Originally posted by Gman4pwnu
and of course my awesome scripting will make it even better xD I cant wait til we go public either, goin to be a long time tho.
[sarcasm]O-great I can't wait to log on and see that everything works![/sarcasm]
Looks like a good server, good luck :-)

haunter 02-29-2004 09:34 PM

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt...

Where's exactly is the Frozen, or Legacy part of this playerworld?

WanDaMan 02-29-2004 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by haunter
Been there, done that, got the t-shirt...

Where's exactly is the Frozen, or Legacy part of this playerworld?

Cmon, half of the servers today have no meaning to their actually game play, i.e Babylon.

XiLe 02-29-2004 09:38 PM

Due to a lack of names and not wanting to just be "Graal ______" we just picked an older project that I gave up on due to lack of interest and took the name :) Suggestions are open and we still have plenty of time to change the name.

haunter 02-29-2004 09:49 PM

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Originally posted by WanDaMan

Cmon, half of the servers today have no meaning to their actually game play, i.e Babylon.

But that sounds as if it's the actual NAME of the place. Frozen Legacy sounds like it's describing something within the server...

Dach 03-01-2004 01:03 AM

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Originally posted by haunter


But that sounds as if it's the actual NAME of the place. Frozen Legacy sounds like it's describing something within the server...

could be a metaphor to the server's plot...

hint hint, nudge nudge

XiLe 03-01-2004 02:08 AM

Well we did have an idea but it wasn't thought out enough I don't think, and the server's been changing...

There's this volcano of legacy that's been frozen for hundreds of thousands of years, and it's just started to thaw... but there's strange creatures and evil forces inside... Can you defeat them? Or will you die trying? We never really finished/elaborated on the storyline but that was the basic idea of it.

WanDaMan 03-01-2004 10:00 AM

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Originally posted by haunter


But that sounds as if it's the actual NAME of the place. Frozen Legacy sounds like it's describing something within the server...

Aha I see!. True :)

davidpsy 03-01-2004 11:12 AM

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The paths are very very similer but a tad different as you and I can see. The seats are different but very similer also. I would advise you do change them.

WanDaMan 03-01-2004 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by davidpsy
The paths are very very similer but a tad different as you and I can see. The seats are different but very similer also. I would advise you do change them.
Recolor ;)

Myomoto 03-01-2004 04:43 PM

Pretty close to just be a recolor to me :O

davidpsy 03-01-2004 05:12 PM

actually eras looks like that because I got a screenshot of it in some weird light. So its probably not even a recolor.

ETD 03-01-2004 05:43 PM

think:

1. Sidewalk parts are big and square

2. Everyone would make them 4 tiles large, grey, with a darker outline

conclusion: all sidewalks will look about the same

(this is kinda like that box argument that went on before... people were like "omg, you stole my box!" and then we finally established that boxes will usually look similar o.o)

anyways, I'm not saying if they are copied or not... because they very well could be... but I don't see how you could try to make them out to be a bad server based on tiles which they can not make differently...

basically all you can do to make 1 sidewalk tileset different than another is the little pattern inside it... which you would call 'recoloring'

thrashsoul 03-01-2004 11:57 PM

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Try using dole pink or tan for sidewalks , I did it for pixel life.

XiLe 03-02-2004 12:04 AM

It looks nice, but I don't think it's what we're aiming for... We want to be very realistic... perhaps I will have more things done to the tiles so they look less and less like Era for you people that don't give up... (stones and imperfections in the sidewalks, more texture on the chairs or something)

konidias 03-04-2004 01:44 PM

Um, actually... there are things called smooth sidewalks... That are like... all flat and layed down with concrete, not slabs but cement mix. So it's all one continuous sidewalk. It's not like there is only one kind of sidewalk in the world (flat gray squares placed side by side)

How about making them longer on one side? Like a rectangle. Where I live, most sidewalks are rectangular pieces, not perfect squares. (so there aren't as many cracks to walk over, making it more uniform)

How about a dull tan/gray color. It's like people have no originality these days. 99% of that tileset looks like Era. The floors, the sidewalks, the walls, the chairs. Insipiration is one thing, copying something and changing the colors/pixels is another.

Myomoto 03-04-2004 02:23 PM

The sidewalks where i live is flat cut out stones that fit each other and make a very nice sidewalk that isn't just some sqare concrete plates

MASTERCOLA 03-16-2004 01:58 AM

strange..

Dach 03-16-2004 05:48 AM

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Originally posted by konidias
Um, actually... there are things called smooth sidewalks... That are like... all flat and layed down with concrete, not slabs but cement mix. So it's all one continuous sidewalk.
...

mmm, wouldn't those crack during winter?


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