New King of Forest
 

I tried this in Forest thread but Chris took it down so I am doing it here.

Due to lack of leadership, I propose to be King of Forest.
I would rule,and govern her, and respect highly her beauty and honor. For by my hand, Forest will be known as a kingdom of power and fairness...


So ponder on the thought and vote for me Tecumseh Ace Cump
The New King of Forest

There is a reason why Chris took it down. :)

Chris is working on revitalizing Forest - I'd advise waiting until his plan unfolds before trying for such a thing.

Haha this is so pathetic too ;p

No offense Chris, but if you had taken care of the
kingdom well, people (like tec) wouldn't be trying
to take command over the kingdom to make it better....

You weren't around when I "took care of the kingdom better" -_-

I prefer it like this than at the same standard of some other kingdoms at this point of time :)

No offense Tec, but aren't you member of KJ? You aren't even in Forest, and I think that high-ranked titles should be worked , not voted for. While I don't know what exactly it is that Chris is planning, I trust that he knows what he is doing, and ursurping him won't do anyone any good...

I think Chris could have gotten members if he wanted to, HE JUST DONT WANT TO, as he already said.

No offense but Chris is the leader and the a really god RolePlayer.

I remember when I used to tryout for Forest and i knew nothing about RolePlaying and i really badly wanted to be a Forestian :(


But im better at RP know, but my English suck :D

chris, chris, he's our man! If he can't do it, tec...err...can't!

Denori for king of dustari ;)

Ruatha for king of Buttered Toast ;)

Tseng for being supreme overlord of the human race

While i secretly pull the strings from behind

I agree, chris has many plans for forest, and actually plans on it having roleplay.
Oh, and that's great news, i'm learning more too, i just keep roleplaying and i learn more.

Yes, Denori for king....
Once he pays me back ~80 diamonds. :)

Yeah, maybe that'll make them stop steal ships.

And make them RP.

Im a great rper, just, my thiveing intentions are a little high ;)

omfg u stole my boat the "S.S. Clean the poop de" the ck got cut out :P

Is it just me, or is Syenergy predestined to be the high overlord of the graalian universe?

mmm...I'm enjoying all this hype and faith you guys have in me <3 for all

Hehe, looks like I may have to raise the member limit a bit over 100 x.x

Hehe, hopefully everything would be sorted out soon :)

First - I wonder how long it took Tec to write this

Second - Its Aran, not King. And I doubt itd be a kingdom of fairness.

Third - Sorry for reviving the thread... somewhat

Actually, it's called "king" no matter what kingdom you're referring to and what the sex of the king is. It's like...special terms for Graal's kingdoms. Each RP group is a kingdom, and each kingdom leader is a king.

Once again, Lance/Tseng Saves me time and says what I think, I am just posting to show my support is here for Chris, Can't wait for Forest to come back and show its true colors.

From what I hear Chris has more plans for Forest than you could possibly concieve.

I Just think this is a sad attempt to claw your way into 'power' Those hungry for power usually hang themselves with the cord rather than plugging it in the socket.

:p :)

I believe it is pathetic that you havent done anything active in your kingdom, or even appointed a temporary leader who can still help the kingdom function.

I havent herd anything about big plans. But I think it is a good developer so i hope on seeing some kiongdom items, and mayeb some improvements to the island itself.

And it is not a sad attempt. Chris is afriad to lose his kingdom so of course he would delete it. Chris is probably the one who is power hungry. I asked him to let his island have a small area like samuari does for NightHawks, and he said no because it would be something he wouldnt have control of. So this isnt true RP'ing because I always thought a kingdom could rise up and revolt against it's government, but obvisouly it cant.

You stoled my quote :(

No i was quoting you <3

<3

:|

"I believe it is pathetic that you havent done anything active in your kingdom, or even appointed a temporary leader who can still help the kingdom function." <---I tried Laser and James but one account ran out and the other was banned. Also, I had to take rights away from everyone because they kept adding houses and recruiting newbies without my permission. Have you also seen what happened to Tseng and Dustari? :) I'm sure he could have also plan a turn around like me.

"Chris is afriad to lose his kingdom so of course he would delete it. Chris is probably the one who is power hungry."

Of course I'm afraid to lose it, I don't wanna see it turn to thrash after I've put so much work into it. Power hungry? What do I gain?

" asked him to let his island have a small area like samuari does for NightHawks, and he said no because it would be something he wouldnt have control of."

You bleeding imbecile, learn to read, intrerpret, understand before you speak rubbish. I'm against ALL sub-kingdoms PERIOD, I told you if there were to be one it would be another race or so on Forest which I would prefer to have command over in any case as things like this have not worked in the past (refer to: Zurkiba, Brad, Excalibur, Geovanie Legend leading Forest before :) ) As for you; I wouldn't allow you to even join my kingdom, hell anyone that's banned on GK as a matter of fact ;p Haha - what the hell would make you think I would allow YOU to not only make a sub-kingdom on MY island but lead it considering the above? Jeez, the nerve of some people.

Learn this, instead of trying to make yourself sound like a hardass. When I asked you if I could make a sub island, you didnt even give me a chance to explain you already said no. Why would I place a sub island on an Elvan island, if I was going to be like samuari fighter? And I dont know why would wouldnt let me in my kingdom. You and I used to be cool,lol I was even in your kingdom on 3 of my accounts. Then lydnzey got control of samuari and she asked me to join I said yes, and you asked why I left, and again ignored my response and reasoning for leaving. You think you are like superior to the players and me. Your not. Your obvisouly obsessed with the little power you have. Poor Guy. And Tseng decided to leave did he not?I think he was a fine leader. And I was banned for a reason, which was resolved. So the ban has been forgotten, no harm was done. And it wasnt a serious ban either, so careful on what you type.

I don't know about all of you, but I am seeing a pattern that isn't exactly very comforting.

So a number of the self-proclaimed 'hardcore roleplayers' feel that they can retain that title despite their ignorance to a whole part of the player base? So all the roleplaying is restricted to Kingdoms, and all the other kiddies can run along and play?

To be honest, a true roleplayer would see a lot of potential in these clans, or rogue organizations. The Nighthawks might not be the best example of this, of course. Their origins were as a PK group, and they seemed to be non-sanctioned by their patron kingdom when they needed it the most. Of course, anything to avoid potential war amongst kingdoms....

If a clan has an interesting roleplaying theme, and they somehow try to fit themselves within a Kingdom's storyline, then I don't see why that kingdom shouldn't recognize this organization in roleplay, and somehow incorporate them into their own storylines, events, etc. Such a thing would bring more unity among the playerbase, and you'd spread your roleplaying influence amongst more players by doing so, therefore helping to strengthen this roleplaying community with fresh blood and greater numbers.

I will take the Crescent Pirates for an example here. The heirarchy has the Governor as the 'king' or top rank. Below him are the Captains, and each captain has their own ship. Now, each ship has its own name. These ship names could easily become the names of 'clans' if so chosen, since they are individual groups, each with its own crew, own region on the pirate island that they set their houses, etc. In roleplaying, such differences could end up in some interesting situations, such as a crew going renegate and breaking off from the Crescent Pirates, etc. All Rp of course.

Anyway, I just find it rather silly to be called excellent roleplayers and to say you want to be ignorant to the vast majority of the player base. While you might have fun roleplaying within your own group, how does that help the community move forward or grow?

"Learn this, instead of trying to make yourself sound like a hardass. When I asked you if I could make a sub island, you didnt even give me a chance to explain you already said no. Why would I place a sub island on an Elvan island, if I was going to be like samuari fighter?"

It doesn't even have to be on my island - I'd still be against once it's at my expense as it would make me a hypocrite to not liking these things period.

"And I dont know why would wouldnt let me in my kingdom. You and I used to be cool,lol I was even in your kingdom on 3 of my accounts."

You got on my bad side by harrassing me and other staff members on numerous occasions <3

"Then lydnzey got control of samuari and she asked me to join I said yes, and you asked why I left, and again ignored my response and reasoning for leaving."

I gave Lyndzey Samurai :) I don't recall too well, either way I don't think I really cared much hence I ignored your response and reasoning.

"You think you are like superior to the players and me. Your not. Your obvisouly obsessed with the little power you have. Poor Guy."

Irrelevant
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"And Tseng decided to leave did he not?I think he was a fine leader."

No he didn't, read my response in that one thread in the Dustari forums about it. I agree, he was a fine leader - no-one can fit in his shoes.

"And I was banned for a reason, which was resolved. So the ban has been forgotten, no harm was done. And it wasnt a serious ban either, so careful on what you type"

Refer to "You got on my bad side by harrassing me and other staff members on numerous occasions <3"
Note: I'm not refering to your recent attempts to pk me and ruining an event :)

Narkotic guy:

The reason I hate sub-kingdoms and such is because the player-base is too small to have many + fill kingdom members. People can be in both one of these and a kingdom at the same time which = not good if not the respected the kingdom to it. They aren't always neccessarily an "rp group" either, I'd use nighthawks for that example :) I hate to see them attempt to take over an island or so by going on a pk spree or standing on the island while it's abandoned.
Oh, and if one were to get an island - they all would want and quite frankly I wouldn't want to see that happen considering nighthawks island has things that shouldn't be there (refer to booze in shops for around 2 gold coins - booze = rare alchemy item in shops for profitable recipe.)
I agree with you too, I like what CP does but I don't consider that a sub-kingdom or RP group/guild. Forest actually has both humans and elves as it is and different leading categories for each ^-^

I was just using CP as an example; there is actually potential there for a subguild situation, although I'm sure no one will ever see it.

It's the very nature of being a pirate, if you ask me. The captains are the leaders, a governor, someone of a landlubber state, wouldn't be the leader of such a band of people. I dunno, I view the Crescent Pirates as more of an alliance than an actual kingdom. A pirate wasn't a nationality, a race, a kingdom. It was a name for people who did dasterdly things on the sea.

I agree that the player base is small. It is one of the smallest ones I've seen for an MMO. It also seems at times that the small player base has already outgrown many of the areas that are in the game. There are crowds in specific areas, mostly because there's really isn't a better spot to find the particular things that they seek, or the experience they crave.

Random alchemy, heh. I wish there really was such a thing in the real world. There honestly should be static recipes there, just make finding the ingredients random.

I think it'd be great if we had a way to distill certain things in the game. Then we'd be able to make our own alcohol, to sell and such. It'd be great to use different incredients to create different alcohols. Rice makes rice wine, tomatoe would make something disgusting... heh. Of course, they would just be rp items, with a food bonus or such, or negatives like poisoning or disease.

I was just set off about the comment in ignoring all the clans and just recognize the kingdoms. Eventually the population will increase, there's no doubt in my mind about that. The problem in my mind is, the recognition of roleplaying groups that exist NOW should start, to bring further encouragement by the others who do not follow that path. Ignoring them won't help anybody, or help them grow into respectable roleplayers.

You're right in mentioning that these groups would probably want invalid items available on their islands. This is a problem of course, but then again the higher ups authorized it or else it wouldn't be in. I think more restrictions should be put in place about that. But then again, what's more dangerous, some booze or a unique shield or sword that's accessible for their clan only?

I am eager to see what you have planned for the Forest Kingdom, and hope to see it swiftly come and difficulties not be present. Please don't take my comments as hostile, I just have my own views and opinions on the state of RP to date and hope to contribute in my stay here with the Graal community. If my ideas and comments are redundant and have already been said before (as most things are anyway, nobody really has anything unique to mention these days), then I apologize. Perhaps more focus needs to be on them then, if they are repeated so often ;)

Also, please, call me Norm. The username doesn't do me justice, just something common that I've used along my travels in many other MMORPGS.

"You're right in mentioning that these groups would probably want invalid items available on their islands. This is a problem of course, but then again the higher ups authorized it or else it wouldn't be in. "

Stefan didn't inspect the levels I believe, he trust his staff but obviously the Samurai level maker abused this priviledge :)

"think it'd be great if we had a way to distill certain things in the game. Then we'd be able to make our own alcohol, to sell and such. It'd be great to use different incredients to create different alcohols. Rice makes rice wine, tomatoe would make something disgusting... heh. Of course, they would just be rp items, with a food bonus or such, or negatives like poisoning or disease."

Dude you think identically to me <3

"I was just set off about the comment in ignoring all the clans and just recognize the kingdoms. Eventually the population will increase, there's no doubt in my mind about that. The problem in my mind is, the recognition of roleplaying groups that exist NOW should start, to bring further encouragement by the others who do not follow that path. Ignoring them won't help anybody, or help them grow into respectable roleplayers."

The population would have to like multiply itself a couple of times for this to work then there'll be diplomacy problems with so many existing. Encouraging it isn't going to benefit anyone in the future but only cause more trouble with them wanting islands and such. It's better to help the official and current kingdoms grow even if the playerbase was large :) Ignoring them may actually help them grow into better role-players as the official kingdoms (which are already well recognised) should have higher standards and policies they would have to follow =D

"I am eager to see what you have planned for the Forest Kingdom, and hope to see it swiftly come and difficulties not be present. Please don't take my comments as hostile, I just have my own views and opinions on the state of RP to date and hope to contribute in my stay here with the Graal community. If my ideas and comments are redundant and have already been said before (as most things are anyway, nobody really has anything unique to mention these days), then I apologize. Perhaps more focus needs to be on them then, if they are repeated so often"

Thanks Norm, hehe. I like your attitude, you seem like someone that can make it big here ;)

FYI, our crews do already have as system of taking a region of land on the island. Each crew has a "town" (whether it just consists of playerhouses, or playerhouses and NPC houses) on the island. And we're working to have some RPing fun with situations of crews having fueds with eachother. However, they're not sub-kingdoms. They make up the kingdom itself. In order for it to be a sub-kingdom, it would mean we have a base set of members besides the crews. Such is not the case. In a sense, you can say the "Crescent Pirates" are the "United Crews of the Crescent Pirate Island" *bomits at that thought* x.x

*"bomits" at all Ziro's thoughts*

RP Groups as just an easy way for someone to gain 'power' They're too lazy to earn it in a real kingdom, so they decide to make their own, this is (almost) always the reason RP groups are made, and then they aren't rp groups at all, they're just someone trying to control people because of the little respect they get in a 'real' social sittuation. (Stereotype)

Some (few) leaders are actually out to do well for the game (Chris, Wren) from what I've seen (I don't know Padren or Zoe, so I'm not going to pass judgement.) But rarely this does (and will) occurr.

But hey! Who the f... am I, I play this game too, why should you listen to me? Simple. Don't listen to me, Listen to that little voice called Logic, Just take a second to -Think- about it.

hey tec its me Musashi ILL SUPPORT U 100 % towards this because i know ur fair and understanding and ummm a lotta other good stuff to lol :grin::whatever:

I'm going to say only this:
Since when do people NOT in Forest get to say what happens in Forest? I'm in Forest and I'm happy and proud to have Chris as leader. I haven't heard any complaints from other Forest(though a Forest on tag is rare right now).

Fact is, Chris has done and continues to do a lot for Forest.

Tec, you're not in Forest, so drop this idea of yours. It won't happen.

Yo! I am currently enlisted in the ranks of Forest, and I am not against his leadership. Although, it would be nice to see more members online...

I guess this is going off topic....but maybe Forest should never recruit again. It'll make a forest membership become like a "rare item". People who can add members (only Chris?) will be offered all these rare items and hundreds of diamonds just to be put into Forest. If I were as much of a jerk as people would like or believe, I would even consider trading leadership of CP for a Forest membership in such a case :O But I guess if Chris has some kind of plans for success of the kingdom, it's kind of hard to have both- membership being as valuable as I suggested while kingdom still being successfull. It's not impossible to do both, but it's unlikely. You would need a bigger playerbase for GK probably.