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gravator 12-28-2003 06:41 PM

Prices on Kingdoms
 
The prices for diamonds and most player sold items is out of hand, i'm not playing anymore for that reason.

There should be a limit to how many diamonds can be sold to a single buyer in a day or something to fix this mess.


*sigh* If there are ANY suggestions please come post here, I dunno if this is spam, worthless-thread-to-post-because-folks-don't-listen-anyway, or what, but i want this taken care of, you could lose so many new players if this keeps going stefan.



And 60 dias for a simple +7 blessing? go get your own dias! =D

GTXOO 12-28-2003 07:14 PM

Actually

all we really need is just the reset now, what is Stefan doing now to improve on the game?
He's just adding item's, the game should be out of Beta now, I hope they reset it soon.

D1ce2 12-28-2003 10:16 PM

Shouldn't this be in the hello's and goodbye's section?.. Quitting over GK when you paid to play GK, You'll be back :)

Satrek2000 12-28-2003 10:44 PM

It's hard work to get to +7 - last time I checked, it's wisdom 36. Also, everyone can ask whatever they want, and as long as people are willing to pay, that's fine - it's called free economy.
As for a reset, it won't change a thing. People won't suddenly start rping due to a reset, and pkers won't realize their peacefull side when their items are taken. En contraire, rpers will be driven off because they think their character worked for their stuff, just to get it removed if they did nothing wrong, while pkers will remain to annoy others as they do now. You'll still have powergamers, and nothing will be improved. The right way would be to add some good craftable armout, bracers and gloves, at reasonable expense, then do something about the unbalance between fighters and spellcasters, then have a number of events encouraging rping. And get it into people's mind that it isn't about being strong, but about rping. Also, being strong doesn't mean that you don't rp, or abused a bug or such.

thelostviking 12-28-2003 11:32 PM

I dont think that rpers would be driven off.
+ its only levels if your a true rper. nonrpers should ask themself if their not in the wrong game (iam german sry for my english ^^).

levels=time

Ziro_Vitrudestec 12-29-2003 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by thelostviking
I dont think that rpers would be driven off.
+ its only levels if your a true rper. nonrpers should ask themself if their not in the wrong game (iam german sry for my english ^^).

levels=time

(You type better english than even most people with english as a first language who think "you","are",and "why" are spelled "u","r", and "y".)

RPers wouldn't be effected more by the reset as you said. If they are true RPers, they can RP anything no matter what their exp and items are. The people that would be driven off are power-gamers who only care about their items and levels. RPers have a balance concern for RPing and items/levels, so they may still get angered if they have their stuff reset, but the people who will be upset the most are those completely infatuated with items and exp and with no concern for RPing.

thelostviking 12-29-2003 12:48 AM

A true word by a true rper. Kingdoms needs more kings like you o.o.

Satrek2000 12-29-2003 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ziro_Vitrudestec
The people that would be driven off are power-gamers who only care about their items and levels. RPers have a balance concern for RPing and items/levels, so they may still get angered if they have their stuff reset, but the people who will be upset the most are those completely infatuated with items and exp and with no concern for RPing.
I'd say there are three groups: RPers, PKers, and powergamers.
Some RPers will remain, staring anew, while some will leave as their items have been deleted even though they did what they were supposed to be. Items and level can be part of rping, and having them doesn't mean you don't rp.
Some PKers will leave and look for better servers to pk and annoy people. Some will stay, using powergaming means to be better than most, specially newbies, and will continue to harass and annoy them.
Some powergamers will leave, having their efforts whiped away, while some will remain, continue powergaming as they did before, and maybe even switch to be a pker just for fun.

The way I see it, this won't improve pking. It also won't make that many people happy.

Quote:

Originally posted by thelostviking
A true word by a true rper. Kingdoms needs more kings like you o.o.
No, we need more rping players - the kingdom leaders are already quality rpers, and even they can't force their citicens to rp. Nobody can force you to rp if you don't want to.

thelostviking 12-29-2003 01:18 AM

kingdoms shuild be built that you can only rp.
its hard and i dunno how it could be made but i think its the only way to get everyone

Blue_Dragn 12-29-2003 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by thelostviking
kingdoms shuild be built that you can only rp.
its hard and i dunno how it could be made but i think its the only way to get everyone

i hate to keep having to use it as a refrence but another server like Valikorlia wouldnt do, Kingdoms is unique in that it is not like any other server

Sure there are some balancing issues but i dont think a tyrannical style RP server is the way to go...

Of course i could be wrong? :)

DragonX 12-29-2003 03:56 AM

Stefan is not going to reset GK
I am not going to waste my time explaining why either, it's been said in many, many threads before.
That's that.

foxyrain 12-29-2003 07:07 AM

Re: Prices on Kingdoms
 
Quote:

Originally posted by gravator
The prices for diamonds and most player sold items is out of hand, i'm not playing anymore for that reason.

There should be a limit to how many diamonds can be sold to a single buyer in a day or something to fix this mess.


*sigh* If there are ANY suggestions please come post here, I dunno if this is spam, worthless-thread-to-post-because-folks-don't-listen-anyway, or what, but i want this taken care of, you could lose so many new players if this keeps going stefan.



And 60 dias for a simple +7 blessing? go get your own dias! =D

I have a better idea - you go get your own 36 wisdom level :D

D1ce2 12-29-2003 10:01 AM

I think that shows lazyness to you all. O your getting killed by people leveld 35+? Level up your self if you don't want to die don't go Battle mode x.x. It's a game and it isn't illegal to play it and get better is it now?

Satrek2000 12-29-2003 10:22 AM

It's actually close to real life. You need to work hard to become good at something - which involves both knowledge and equipment. If you aren't good, don't go out and challange others. When someone comes to pk me in any way, I usually run, as I'm not a fighter and magic can't keep up with a sword or bow in melee. I have no problem with running, specially as this is probably what the High Mage would do if something came at him that he can't defeat. Then again, if a player came along and would try to rp some demon lord, with a proper background, I'd love to set some small story up, discussed by both sides via pm, and if it fits I wouldn't mind dieing (i.e. getting severely injured).

My point is this: it's neither server nor items that keep you from rping, nor can they ever force you. It's up to you whether you rp or not.

D1ce2 12-29-2003 11:06 AM

Well I guess you have a point there.

thelostviking 12-30-2003 02:16 AM

Only because some kids cry for their weapons and random alchemy armor.
Like NO OTHERS MAY NOT HAVE THE SAME CHANCES LIKE I DO!
btw.: youll say that its not much better, but I say, it sells for a whole lot just because some people want to have them at any cost and there are always people to buy them.

Satrek2000 12-30-2003 12:32 PM

I see "kids" crying for a reset because they want to get a chance they concider equal. But life isn't fair, and it's the same in every game, if you start later you have the disadvantage of time and a bunch of missed chances. Those who own strong event- and alchemy items most likely worked for them, either by winning the event or getting enough values amassed to buy them. If there are some who abused bugs, is it justified to punish all the others for that? And is it just to punish all the rules-abiding players, who don't have such items either, and actually do rp, only because some players grew strong by either working hard or abusing bugs?
I say it doesn't matter. Fix these bugs, and see to bringing balance by making new items craftable or give them out as event items. The game is about having fun and roleplaying. It's not about being strongest and to 'pwn'. Now if someone would give me a penny for every time I said that recently... :\

thelostviking 12-31-2003 03:09 PM

It cant be so hard to add arches and new smithies =/ instead of that they make stuff noone really needs like eventisland, well nothing against the island but it doesnt improve the rp or anything.

gravator 12-31-2003 06:34 PM

changed topic?
 
wow, this went from my concern over everyone thinking it's ok to charge 300 for a diamond just because one or two ppl started to because they were rich enough to pay that much.


to the resetting of GK, i just want the prices to go back down, this is graal people, NOT as most of you claim, "just like the real world" yea it's great to have cheap diamonds, alot of folks have openly complained about it, but those same folks keep selling diamonds for 300 each and that doesn't help.

thelostviking 12-31-2003 07:43 PM

and dont compare rl with mmorpgs

Monkeyboy_McGee 01-01-2004 01:46 AM

Re: changed topic?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by gravator
wow, this went from my concern over everyone thinking it's ok to charge 300 for a diamond just because one or two ppl started to because they were rich enough to pay that much.


to the resetting of GK, i just want the prices to go back down, this is graal people, NOT as most of you claim, "just like the real world" yea it's great to have cheap diamonds, alot of folks have openly complained about it, but those same folks keep selling diamonds for 300 each and that doesn't help.

Every single thread does.... *keels over and dies*


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