Trial Account / IP Address
 

It would be nice if Trial Accounts retained the 'Last IP' portion of their playerworld data... :mad:

Re: Trial Account / IP Address
 

Indeed.

It would be even better to just get rid of trial accounts. =P

Amen to that ;o
They are abused

A majority of people aren't allowed or can't afford a P2P account, so getting rid of trial accounts would be a bad move.

Yes, they're abused. But just because some people abuse the privilege doesn't mean the other people who use them correctly should suffer.

Exactly, trial accounts are half the population of graal, and lately i have been advertising and stuff, trying to get more members, mainly gold.

Trial accounts should have a time limit on them for how long they can be used. People just use em' so they dont have to pay. If trial accounts are half the population, then GO needs to open it's market and attract by putting adverts in gaming magazines.

Atleast make it so trial accounts can only be used for a limited time then your IP cannot register another trial account period, thus making it so people dont abuse that.

Kinda funny hearing this from a person who admitted to sharing accounts.


Anyway, I think they should give a full access pass for like a week or something instead of the current system.

Incorrect. If the person (or who ever holds ownership of the PC and/or ISP connection) can afford both a computer and an ISP connection then there is no excuse for why they don't pay. Its thier choice and that is the consequences thereof. To say that they can't afford it is a blatant lie. Not being allowed is a different case, but that is thier problem, not Graal Online's.

Why should GO be penalized just because Mr. Newbie's parents won't pay for the upgrade or that he won't pay for it on his own? GO does not own your money except that which you pay to them for the upgrade(s), so they are in no way obligated to treat all players the same. It isn't right to give equal parts to those who pay and those who don't/won't. It makes spending that money for those benefits a waste since you could've gotten them free.

Thats how all businesses work. If you really want it you'll pay for it, otherwise, you'll have to deal without. Graal isn't based on Socialistic ideals. What incentive would there be if, for example, all the playerworlds had to follow a very strict ruleset that limited all forms of creativity or originality with the exception of the company servers? Everything other than GK, Graal2001, and Classic would be boring and bland.

...I think I've gone a bit off topic :x

How can you speak for everyone on whether or not they can afford to upgrade their account?

I think the trial accounts should only work for 30 days, this is time enough for them to make up their mind if they want to pay or not. Then they should be blocked so they cannot make another account. Do the accounts like trial software 30 up it doesn't work nor can you use it till you buy it. Graal does have the means to put files in the registery(by way of the graal.exe and the setup of Graal) of someone comps that will block the account till the account is paid for by use of an unlock key code over the 30 day trial period. This I think would be the best way to address trial accounts. It also can do a snapshop of someones comp so the account cannot be used by anyone other that person on that comp, much like Win XP does.

Stefan and Unix probably put some kind of limit on trial accounts when they finish more of the projects they've been working on. Probably put some ads out then too

The little brats can get a job if they want to play GO so much.

hmmm. Don't you have to be 18 or over to sign up for a paypal account? I'm not speaking for everyone, but most parents have the last word on whether or not they're allowed to purchase an account.

My parents said no :D . It doesn't seem like I was 18 when I signed up for Paypal though.. whoops prolly shouldn't have said that

You dont have to pay by PayPal. I believe you can send in cash or a cheque.
Edit: Also, there are plenty of underage PayPal users. Obviously they cannot prove how old you are over the internet. Also with PayPal if you do not have a Credit Card you can use a Debit Card. Most children should have a bank account if they have a job.

:p My parents also said no, but eventually they agreed to buying an account.

Yeah, I think you can still send cash or a cheque, though I never found where those options were...oh well. There used to be the option to pay by phone, but I don't think that option is available anymore. Also, in America, isn't there a certain age you have to be before you can apply for a job?

Depends on your state. I had a job at 12 doing a paper route. 50 bucks a week isn't bad for spending one hour a morning throwing papers onto driveways.

The age here is 16.

Although I can't get a job because of school, I allow myself to do random yard jobs for people.

So basically it depends on what type of job it is? Over here, it's 14 years and 9 months any part-time job. :(

Heh, and I thought 14 years and 9 months was bad. :p

Most states are 16 but the have alot of restrictions on when you can work. Like you cannot work on school days during school hours. They limit the hours not only on how many you can work on weekdays but weekends too, you can only work about 20 hours a week I think it is.

What's to stop me? Its the truth. If 'Family A' is too poor to afford to pay for an online game how can they afford either a computer (that is capable of running Win98 or better) or an internet connection? If they have both then most likely its affordable.

Heck, all I need is VIP since I don't play on gold servers much. I spend a lot of time posting here. So $20 is more than affordable, wouldn't you agree? If anything, I'd venture to say that a good portion of our trial users are of the anti-graal crowd. Yeah, I'm sure a few might have an upgraded account (legal or not) to do with for thier own purposes.

Welcome to the world of real life where life isn't fair. :)

Which, of course, is to prevent companies that employ a lot of under-aged workers (17 and under) from taking advantage of them. I wouldn't doubt that it does happen, though. Just probably in more subtle ways than one would expect ;)

The registry wouldn't be a good idea because you could just delete the value within the Graal hive that defines it...Of course, you could force graal to check for that value in the hive and if it's not there, deny access.