Desert
 

Alright a few weeks later and the Desert is right where it was when I left it. (Probable the same with the whole server) So seemingly the desert isnt going to get done unless I do it myself. So expect it to be done in a few days. That is assuming I can get those graphics I needed done. Probably not...

Well what I did isn't going up obviously, since I have no rights.

*LAFTER*
graal bomy moon staff is in great shape

They need equal staff. NO manager, NO admins. Just equal staff. People who are lower in staff mostly work ahrder as they want to earn a high position.

I know I wasnt critisizing you Kyden. But if you put it in the uploads folder I'd appreciate it so I can do the other half of it.

So everyone has level 4 RC and can mess with others' rights. Not to mention, one could go beserk and delete all of the levels, npcs, etc.

Nah dont need equal staff we need people to just do stuff. I dont want more rights or any thing else. I just want stuff to get done. Most importantly graphics that I ask for and weeks later am still waiting for.

What I meant was I have no rights, as in no RC.

wtf what happened to it?

I presume I was fired for being inactive.

And honestly I don't care, I don't like working for Jeff. The only reason I stayed around as long as I did was I was hoping Jeff would get out of there.

merde x.x well that explains why I havnt seen you on the past few days or so. Suppose that means more work for me x.x yay

Stop talking about it and get to work.. If you guys don't bring back G2k1 I'm gonna cry.

Post removed to hide my stupidity.

Jeff's firing everybody? First I heard.



Kyden, if there was a mistake in the firing process, I apologize for the inconvenience. However, now you have shown your true colors, I cannot hire staff who openly detest me. It hurts morale.

And you hurt Bomy Moon. It's not detesting you, it's basically a fact. I don't want to work for someone who works on another server more than the one they own. But that isn't the point of this thread.

Anyways, ummm.... good luck Mad.

So you know, I haven't been doing terribly much for Classic lately either. I've been rather busy, and for that I apologize profusely.

I'm trying to do more than I do :)

Do you realize how stupid you sound. If you're going to talk please get a clue first. 2k1 was in bad shape before he took over. It just really hasnt gone any where so at worst you could say Jeff is failing to improve the state of GBM. Which isn't entirly his fault. If people would stop dinking around and get off there butts and bother to do something aside from playing with staff toys then GBM would be some where. The only failure Jeff has thus far is lighting a fire under peoples arses and getting them motivated. He needs to get more friendly with the Fire people stick in my opinion. Maybe then people will start taking him seriously and do there damn jobs rather than GAT's playing with test levels giving themselves hats etc... or NAT's playing with candy npc's and other gizmo's. That is the only thing Jeff has failed at so far Motivation. He's not killing 2k1 and to say so is pure stupidity. It's already dead you cant kill something that was dead before you got ahold of it. If you people are so concerned about it why dont you get ahold of the staff and hound them to do the job they were hired to do. I know for a fact I've asked for graphics to be made for a month and I'm still waiting on those graphics to be started. The same is what I've heard from a few NAT's there is a general lack of communication between staff. People need to be assigned projects from either the Admin of that department or the Manager and every one needs to stop crying and belly aching about how its all Jeff's fault when thats just complete bull ****. It is only partly his fault the rest falls on the staff of GBM myself included.

He fired Tseng, who was, from what I collected, the only one actually doing anything. Then again, I don't know anything, and you proved it to me, so maybe I should just stop giving my input and let 2k1 die a horrible death :)

Yes you should. All Tseng was doing was bad mouthing Jeff and being powerhungry trying to remove him as staff. If some one showed that much disrespect that they would be opening flames telling me how I should be removed as manager I would fire them too. Not to mention Tseng was going against what Jeff wanted by remaking and Replacing staff toys such as those stupid candies that Jeff had removed. So yes unless you have a clue dont speak. :)

I know Tseng semi-well. He would never do that. From what I understand, Tseng was fired for "inactivity."
onos staff toys end of teh wurld :(!
You don't fire people for goofing around with staff toys, unless they give people tons of cash, or some other unfair advantage. (Exception, I'd say: Staff boots.)

First part look back he even made a post about it. When you specifically delete something and say dont. Then some one specifically puts it back after the manager deletes it knows the manager deletes it and knows the manager wants it gone then yes you do. I'll put my response to the other thread here as well. As soon as you stop making stupid posts I'll stop bashing them. I'm not targeting you I'm targeting stupid or ignorant posts. It's not my fault if you just happen to be the person who is posting them.

What.
The posts aren't stupid. And you seem to be targeting me. Because the last few bashing threads I've seen were from you to me.

There is a thread some where in this forum that was started by Tseng on how Jeff should be removed and he made Manager. Which in my opinion is just pure stupidity to do something like that then be surprised when you're no longer staff shortly after. Jeff even didnt fire him right then and there he waited a while until it became clear. Which is more than I would have done I'd have given him the boot right when the post was made.

Just the last couple have been in the same catagory and have fallen under my hammer. I'm not targeting you and if you look I've even condensed two of the threads it so as to limit bashing. Also I've done no bashing in this thread as everything you have said is perfectly logical and intelligent. Perhaps you're right and the post themselves arnt stupid. But in the way you post it it sounds stupid. Maybe if you made the posts sound more logical such as this last one people might sit up and pay attention to what you're saying. But when you go around saying Jeff needs the boot (not literally what you said) Or GBM is dying we need to get rid of jeff! No one is going to pay much attention. How ever if you had posted it to sound more diplomatic people might have given you support posted reasons that support your own etc.. Right now it just sounds like attacks on Jeff. Which probably isnt how you intend it to come out but in the end it did.

I did not see this post. Link please.

You know what? You're right. I was bashing jeff. Sorry everybody, sorry jeff... I just personally think Jeff needs to do a little more with his server, and hire some more people... It seems like nothing's getting done.

http://forums.graal2001.com/forums/s...1&pagenumber=1

I'm not so sure more people need hired as much as a fire needs lit under the arses of the current staff. They need to get motivated and projects assigned and what not. Then if not fire and hire some new people. It does seem like nothing is getting done at times. There are things being done but its hard to get anything finished in a timely manner with out all the various staff members helping each other and running as a well oiled machine.

ahh u beat me to it :(

to what the link?

Ok, well, it seemed to me more like Tseng was asking Jeff to step down, not flaming him. And that's not a very good reason to fire sombody. Sure, it's somewhat insulting, but still...

Anyway, all of that aside, yea. "Lighting a fire under their arses" would work too.

It's under mining Jeff's authority But that wasnt the sole reason for it. I just prefer not to list the rest as it was a private staff issue.

i know what would lite the fire....................moving the server to classic.

why should jeff get so much respect? what has he done good for graal2001? Else than be a crappy manager i dunno what

Where did I make any reference to respect?

I have a distaste for staff who, instead of working (Or even doing nothing!) let on they can be Manager but do not even work much as a developer! Also (not to bash, but it needs to be said) Tseng was *****ing about how I wouldn't give him back all the rights (i.e. ban) he lost when he resigned as comanager.


Admittedly newmain isn't much better off than it was around the end of Kamuii's managership, but sometimes we manage to have 20 or so people on.


Also I want you all to know that I am doing the best I can do, but I am rather busy right now getting ready to graduate from high school.


As for the people who think I should hire more staff, I have open hiring and I get applications all the time. Just recently I've hired Spanky as a new Head Level Maker and Gryffon as a second Kingdoms Admin (though Gryffon was really hired by Wryoko, heh).

Madmartigan, correct me if I'm wrong, but GBM had 40-70 players on it after it was reset for about 1 1/2 weeks. And now it has dropped back to the dismal 0-10 range. To me, that's killing it.

thats like stabbing it in the back all over again

No you actually have to do something to kill it. Such as release a major update that every one hated. After a reset for less than 2 weeks isnt a valid point. Why? Because it was just a bunch of people playing newbie again once they got back what they had they left again. You're logic is flawed Jeff got it Reset and brought the player count up to 40-70. So how is that killing it when he got the playercount up even temporarily? Think people..

and funnylink I'm still looking for that reference to respect.

It's killing it because it's back down to 0-15. He had the opportunity to add new things to keep the players there, but he didn't. Instead he fired Tseng (or Tseng left because of him), got scared of Birdbird's 2k1 and reset it. Then did nothing of the sort to update it besides auctioning bomys when all along Tseng had a great plan to atleast attempt to keep the playercount after it was reset.

It's not all lost. You just need a HUGE update to get the players back in. Once the players are back in, you need to update it more.

Or just overhaul the server, and keep the updates constant.

Constant updates = Constant players.

So Tseng was going to do all this stuff but yet he did... nothing! You can place blame all you want on how its Jeff's fault and that Tseng would have if he wasnt fired the second time around. But it was infact his own fault. Jeff hasnt killed anything it was already dead he temporarily revived it but it was dead long before he got it. Wether or not he's the problem on it not going back up and staying up is a seperate issue.

My final thoughts on the matter of Tseng. Plans are like gas... it's nothing but a bunch of hot air and most times all that comes from them is a bunch of stink and nothing more.

Yes I had plans to join the army at one time but I didnt and its all Jeff's fault!

Yes but its hard to get decent staff to put in much effort on something that seems like a lost cause. They feel like they're working for nothing more than a hope that people might come back. One thing GBM needs is motivation which falls under Jeffs jurisdiction. He needs to start taking an active role in assigning projects to the admins then having the Admins asign those to the staff under them and then get project updates on how they're doing. Fire any one who isnt pulling there own wait. Give a weekly/biweekly update on the forums to let us know how things are going. This is at least one possible way to accomplish it along the lines of what you said but it will take alot of determination and devotion to GBM to get it done. The key to it all is Motivation and not letting the stack slack off.