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Birdbird_0 06-06-2001 02:50 PM

Stefan, please look at this topic.
 
It has become a sort of, Frensey amoung players now to suddenly sell scripts of newmain on newmain! On an avrege 10 min period I get about 4 mass pms of people selling the minning npc,jumprope,birdcatching,ctf,and other tings that are uniquke to NewMain, The Police dont seem to jail them because they are not sure if it is eligale or not. After reading this I hope you will give the say so to jail these people plainly put by Lugie "The NPC black market" out of busness, They should not profiet from your and the other members of the staffs work. Thank you.

Birdbird_0 06-07-2001 02:31 AM

Please tell me your coments on this matter people/

06-07-2001 02:32 AM

I don't think it's too cool, personally. But hey, people are trying to get money in as many ways as they can.

CrazedMerlin 06-07-2001 02:33 AM

It's because when a playerworld goes p2p stefan uploads the scripts to the FTP and on Enigma they were leaked *cough* warcaptain *cough*
The 2 reasons enigma went p2p was because warcaptain wanted a free p2p account and he wanted the scripts.

Birdbird_0 06-07-2001 02:33 AM

::blurs vistion with lcd screen:: wha??:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Cloud_X 06-07-2001 02:33 AM

They should learn to script it themselves =[

06-07-2001 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cloud_X
They should learn to script it themselves =[
Yeah, true. I can't script worth crap, but I don't care. No one will teach me, anyway. :)

BruceLee2000 06-07-2001 02:36 AM

FREE ENTERPRISE!!#

Kaimetsu 06-07-2001 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Garnet_Mithica


Yeah, true. I can't script worth crap, but I don't care. No one will teach me, anyway. :)

You can't teach scripting. Ask Stefan or Kyle or Tyhm who taught them, for example. Skill comes from a compulsive need to make everything neat and perfect and efficient and, luckily for most people, it's a very selective occupation. Only a few people can do it without going too crazy.

activeconvict 06-07-2001 03:20 AM

Yesterday, via e-mail, somebody sent me the bomy pet script. I have no clue why, but I think it's the real deal, it's very long and everything looks right.

Kaimetsu 06-07-2001 03:22 AM

What's that text at the bottom of your sig, James?

Huggles 06-07-2001 03:40 AM

Cloud Strife was trading NW stuff for Graal2001 scripts ;D

Huggles 06-07-2001 03:41 AM

I cannot script worth crap... Thats what bruges for he scripts for me or goku ;D

Lycia 06-07-2001 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


You can't teach scripting. Ask Stefan or Kyle or Tyhm who taught them, for example. Skill comes from a compulsive need to make everything neat and perfect and efficient and, luckily for most people, it's a very selective occupation. Only a few people can do it without going too crazy.

?

Stefan didn't get taught NPC scripting. He is the God of NPC Scripting. He made up the bloody language, for crying out loud.

Kyle, I think learned it on his own with some help from others, and Tyhm learned in the same fashion.

I dunno if I'm arguing this correctly, but, as everything else, I'm probably interpreting everything wrong so I will just shut up now.

Kaimetsu 06-07-2001 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lycia

Stefan didn't get taught NPC scripting. He is the God of NPC Scripting. He made up the bloody language, for crying out loud.

There's a difference between "NPC Scripting" and "Graal Scripting." Besides, he still needs to learn and develop techniques just like the rest of us. After all scripting isn't just about learning all the commands.

Quote:

Kyle, I think learned it on his own with some help from others, and Tyhm learned in the same fashion.
Exactly my point. Same goes for that other great scripter, Kaimetsu ;)

activeconvict 06-07-2001 03:49 AM

Lycia, Graal Scripting is basically C++ in a modified way.



What text? The New World Order text?

Kaimetsu 06-07-2001 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by activeconvict
Lycia, Graal Scripting is basically C++ in a modified way.



What text? The New World Order text?

Ah, I couldn't make out the "Order" bit. Does that refer to Graal NW?

activeconvict 06-07-2001 03:58 AM

Actually it's a group that a whole bunch of my art/image buddies made. You might see some pics by them if you goto a lot of art/image websites. I personally made that one. But in no way is it affiliated with WCW's nWo.

Krakken_2001 06-07-2001 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lycia

Kyle, I think learned it on his own with some help from others, and Tyhm learned in the same fashion.

I did too... I wasnt that great at scripting until I met Kai a year ago... He is the greatest geometrics scripter I have ever seen on graal and he toulght me soo much =)

Kaimetsu 06-07-2001 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krakken_2001


I did too... I wasnt that great at scripting until I met Kai a year ago... He is the greatest geometrics scripter I have ever seen on graal and he toulght me soo much =)

Geometry becomes less useful online, because Graal isn't suited to clientside parametric movements. Moving something twenty times per second does tend to produce a lot of lag. Still, it makes pretteee effects offline ;)

Huggles 06-07-2001 04:40 AM

No cloud strife was trading New World.exe from email for graal2001 scripts

Krakken_2001 06-07-2001 04:43 AM

Hehe... I think I owe most of my NPC scripting career in graal to Kai... hes the greatest =)

TB3 06-07-2001 04:47 AM

ahhhh kia you better teach me some stuff then
 
I learned everything i know by myself completely no help and it was hard in a way but i know it i didnt learn it i know it completely now but i can use much more knowledge especialy in some math departments i know enough but i need more and kia be teachin the best so yous better teach me too O_o and get me a dictionary ! =P

FxChiP 06-07-2001 04:52 AM

Getting back to the point...

I think that everyone who sells a script should be banned. I wouldn't have any problem with it if it was one of my scripts that I worked on because I was bored or something, I wouldn't care much. But if I worked hard on it and I didn't want it distributed, and that's what they were doing, I would get pissed. I'm sure that Stefan and all the other scripters feel the same way.

Also, I think that it's illegal to sell those scripts. Aren't they copyrighted?

FxChiP 06-07-2001 04:53 AM

Oh yeah, didn't feel like editing the last post, but I realize I contradicted myself.

I think that anyone who sells Graal 2001 scripts should be banned, because of all the hard work Stefan and others put into the scripts.

activeconvict 06-07-2001 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FxChiP
Getting back to the point...

I think that everyone who sells a script should be banned. I wouldn't have any problem with it if it was one of my scripts that I worked on because I was bored or something, I wouldn't care much. But if I worked hard on it and I didn't want it distributed, and that's what they were doing, I would get pissed. I'm sure that Stefan and all the other scripters feel the same way.

Also, I think that it's illegal to sell those scripts. Aren't they copyrighted?

I'm pretty sure they are. So I see it as, it's illegal to sell them, we need Mafukie to make a new rule. Otherwise I have no power to do anything about it.

galen 06-07-2001 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Huggles
No cloud strife was trading New World.exe from email for graal2001 scripts
I bet 'New World.exe' was a trojan

Huggles 06-07-2001 07:02 AM

Nope Im pretty sure it was Graal-NW and alot of levels of Tespan levels....

Cloud strife offered me it gave me access to his email.......

Its there alright... and I dont think he was joking.

Admins 06-07-2001 09:02 AM

Buying scripts would be really stupid.
When a server is upgraded I am uploading
scripts to their ftp, also I give them the
Graal2001 scripts if the owner asks me
for it. Since the npcserver scripts only work
on npcserver it will not be of much use for
other people.
Some scripts like mining are not released yet,
I would wonder if someone has it.
The other scripts (e.g. jump'n'run and bomy
player race) can be used offline too and
also on free servers, but servers will be shut down
if its used without asking me (bomy player race
is disallowed, but jump'n'run would be ok,
better than the crappy scripts used on some
places on Graal ...).

activeconvict 06-07-2001 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
Buying scripts would be really stupid.
When a server is upgraded I am uploading
scripts to their ftp, also I give them the
Graal2001 scripts if the owner asks me
for it. Since the npcserver scripts only work
on npcserver it will not be of much use for
other people.
Some scripts like mining are not released yet,
I would wonder if someone has it.
The other scripts (e.g. jump'n'run and bomy
player race) can be used offline too and
also on free servers, but servers will be shut down
if its used without asking me (bomy player race
is disallowed, but jump'n'run would be ok,
better than the crappy scripts used on some
places on Graal ...).

Haha, Stefan. :-)

Watch your language!

Hehe, just kiddin'.

XilosTinsu 06-07-2001 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
The other scripts (e.g. jump'n'run and bomy
player race) can be used offline too and
also on free servers, but servers will be shut down
if its used without asking me (bomy player race
is disallowed, but jump'n'run would be ok,
better than the crappy scripts used on some
places on Graal ...).

Can you send me the jump'n'run script???
[email protected]

KJS 06-07-2001 10:45 AM

here it is
 
it is ez really

if(playertouchsme)
toweapons jump rope;
if(weaponfired)
setani skip,;

(well I am not sure if that is the exact from 2001 but that is how I would script it)

XilosTinsu 06-07-2001 06:05 PM

DOH not the jumprope script I already know that, the Jump'n'Run with Gravity etc.

Fai 06-07-2001 06:08 PM

DONT GIVV OUT G2K1 SCRIPTS

06-07-2001 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fai
DONT GIVV OUT G2K1 SCRIPTS
Another intelligent post by Fai (not sarcasm). This one is almost as good as "DELETE PWS".

toad1413 06-07-2001 07:30 PM

Could I please have the Graal2001 Jump'n'run script Stefan because I am trying to make a new Jump'nrun hangout for the Zormites. Why did you take that and the Zormite Morphing tool away anyway?

my email is [email protected]

Kaimetsu 06-07-2001 09:04 PM

Re: ahhhh kia you better teach me some stuff then
 
Quote:

Originally posted by TB3
I learned everything i know by myself completely no help and it was hard in a way but i know it i didnt learn it i know it completely now but i can use much more knowledge especialy in some math departments i know enough but i need more and kia be teachin the best so yous better teach me too O_o and get me a dictionary ! =P
I refuse to teach people who don't spell my name correctly.

Krakken_2001 06-07-2001 10:33 PM

lolz... try Kaimetsu... thats hard to mess up for some reason..

CJH 06-08-2001 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Garnet_Mithica
I don't think it's too cool, personally. But hey, people are trying to get money in as many ways as they can.
Your right, but he has a point too, the GP's should know what they have to do =/

Kaimetsu 06-08-2001 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krakken_2001
lolz... try Kaimetsu... thats hard to mess up for some reason..
People always call me "Kaimestu". Or, on bad days, "Kiamiaemiutsteu".


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