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Nemesis 09-10-2002 04:37 AM

About "that" thread
 
I deleted the GM thread...it's been said..Ibonic will handle the Gold Servers...what happens to me is whatever...I dunno anymore...I just know I love this game...kinda mad...kinda frustrated but what can you do...nothing x_x

I'll say more as I can...Sorry about deleting your voice was heard...by me...thats what I feel is the major importance of graal...Democracy...but anyhow x_X

bigkow44 09-10-2002 04:47 AM

Re: About "that" thread
 
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Originally posted by Nemesis
I deleted the GM thread...it's been said..Ibonic will handle the Gold Servers...what happens to me is whatever...I dunno anymore...I just know I love this game...kinda mad...kinda frustrated but what can you do...nothing x_x

I'll say more as I can...Sorry about deleting your voice was heard...by me...thats what I feel is the major importance of graal...Democracy...but anyhow x_X

So your quitting Graal?

gokux33 09-10-2002 04:59 AM

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Originally posted by bigkow44


So your quitting Graal?

If he does, i'll go over there and whack him with a frying pan, feel sorry and end up buying him the Disturbed CD.

Nemesis 09-10-2002 05:23 AM

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Originally posted by gokux33
If he does, i'll go over there and whack him with a frying pan, feel sorry and end up buying him the Disturbed CD.
LOL....Maybe you should :: thinks about the free cd ::

no pain no gain :)

anyways...as for "quitting" if I did/do you'd know...I'd make sure..as of now I'm seeing what people have to talk to me about...I was told important things needed to be said so I must hear it out

gokux33 09-10-2002 05:25 AM

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Originally posted by Nemesis


LOL....Maybe you should :: thinks about the free cd ::

no pain no gain :)

anyways...as for "quitting" if I did/do you'd know...I'd make sure..as of now I'm seeing what people have to talk to me about...I was told important things needed to be said so I must hear it out

Yeah, like me wanting to be PWA, etc.. >.>;;

haunter 09-10-2002 05:58 AM

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Originally posted by gokux33
If he does, i'll go over there and whack him with a frying pan, feel sorry and end up buying him the Disturbed CD.
hay bishnish you stole me fryin' pan!

Birdbird_0 09-10-2002 06:06 AM

told ya just to take it losely

gokux33 09-10-2002 06:09 AM

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Originally posted by Birdbird_0
told ya just to take it losely
4000th post.

Knuckles 09-10-2002 06:19 AM

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Originally posted by gokux33
If he does, i'll go over there and whack him with a frying pan, feel sorry and end up buying him the Disturbed CD.
Amen.. :rolleyes:

gokux33 09-10-2002 06:21 AM

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Originally posted by Knuckles


Amen.. :rolleyes:

He lives no more than three hours away from me. ^^;

zell12 09-10-2002 06:31 AM

What happened o.O
If Nemesis is quitting, I'll give up all hope in Graal.

Knuckles 09-10-2002 07:17 AM

If Nemesis quits or gets fired or depromoted or somthing... We should all go on strike..

we'll probably only last about 3 day's without Graal, but it's a long enough time to get our point across O_o.

albus777 09-10-2002 07:20 AM

Who manages Classic servers?

zell12 09-10-2002 07:36 AM

Nemesis or Contegto, I think...

gokux33 09-10-2002 07:54 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
Nemesis or Contegto, I think...
Nemesis, silly. He's still Asst. GM.

zell12 09-10-2002 07:55 AM

No, I am talking to him, he wouldn't tell me that if he wasn't sure.

Legondary_MyTH 09-10-2002 08:31 AM

wts...
 
who is ibonic?

bigkow44 09-10-2002 08:32 AM

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Originally posted by Nemesis


LOL....Maybe you should :: thinks about the free cd ::

no pain no gain :)

anyways...as for "quitting" if I did/do you'd know...I'd make sure..as of now I'm seeing what people have to talk to me about...I was told important things needed to be said so I must hear it out

Dont quit. Just dont quit. Its that simple.

Torankusu 09-10-2002 08:42 AM

Re: wts...
 
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Originally posted by Legondary_MyTH
who is ibonic?
man, I really can't believe you people don't know who Ibonic is. Look through past news articles on the site.

Nemesis 09-10-2002 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by gokux33

Nemesis, silly. He's still Asst. GM.

that doesn't mean I do it...it's up to unixmad...x_X

Nemesis 09-10-2002 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
man, I really can't believe you people don't know who Ibonic is. Look through past news articles on the site.
He faded away and now has surfaced again...it'll take people a while to remember him...

I have to run things by you...if you'd like to hear them later

gokux33 09-10-2002 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by Nemesis


He faded away and now has surfaced again...it'll take people a while to remember him...

I have to run things by you...if you'd like to hear them later

Run some things by me, too. -winkwinknudgenudgepokesthepmlogsfromearlieronbabyl onlolol-

Graal2001_NAT 09-10-2002 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by zell12
Nemesis or Contegto, I think...
how did contego get in on this o.o

gokux33 09-10-2002 09:53 AM

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Originally posted by Graal2001_NAT

how did contego get in on this o.o

He was a candidate for GM.

Valder 09-10-2002 10:18 AM

I personally think that stefan and unixmad need to hire someone new. Maybe Aftershock.

gokux33 09-10-2002 10:26 AM

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Originally posted by Valder
I personally think that stefan and unixmad need to hire someone new. Maybe Aftershock.
I think Nemesis is doing just fine.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 09-10-2002 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by Valder
I personally think that stefan and unixmad need to hire someone new. Maybe Aftershock.
I can't, I'm not 18.

gokux33 09-10-2002 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_

I can't, I'm not 18.

You can always lie.

Nemesis 09-10-2002 11:58 AM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_

I can't, I'm not 18.

Doesn't stop the promotions you deserve..as well as others...Lets hope I get a chance to impliment them into the graal system x_x

gokux33 09-10-2002 11:59 AM

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Originally posted by Nemesis


Doesn't stop the promotions you deserve..as well as others...Lets hope I get a chance to impliment them into the graal system x_x

Yeah, like the promotion I should get into that thing I PMed you about on Babylon. :p

R0b1n-NPC 09-10-2002 04:38 PM

is there one GM for graal gold, and one for graal classic, or is it just one for the whole of graal?

::edit::
im pissed "that" thread got taken away, my post count got made lower :(:(

zell12 09-10-2002 05:57 PM

Main = Unixmad
Gold = Ibonic
Classic = Nem or Contegto

Nemesis 09-10-2002 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by zell12
Main = Unixmad
Gold = Ibonic
Classic = Nem or Contegto

Unixmad told me this morning before I went to class that I would remain on staff and as the Classic / Playerworld GM

Don't know the details of rc and everything else...but I do know that we can move forward...Hopefully I can get a chance to accomplish a lot now... :)

Thanks for your support and everything, and I do greatly appreciate it :)

btw I am currently at school

Glory 09-10-2002 07:44 PM

<3 (Not Spam, k?)

albus777 09-10-2002 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nemesis


Unixmad told me this morning before I went to class that I would remain on staff and as the Classic / Playerworld GM

Don't know the details of rc and everything else...but I do know that we can move forward...Hopefully I can get a chance to accomplish a lot now... :)

Thanks for your support and everything, and I do greatly appreciate it :)

btw I am currently at school

Try and be as available as you can :)

Nemesis 09-10-2002 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by albus777

Try and be as available as you can :)

I was available for 12 straight hours yesterday x_x

I'll be on after school...but I will be on the forums and forum pm's work well if you wanna drop a line (please make sure it's important :P )


Otherwise wait for me on graal...I'll be on classic first, than from there I'll jump around :)

screen_name 09-10-2002 10:03 PM

I must have been away way too long.

What exactly is happening??

R0b1n-NPC 09-10-2002 10:52 PM

I ::Think:: unixmad was going to hire either nem, con, or someone called ibonic who i dont know to be Gold GM.

And nem got really pissy and immature showing some bad qualities (please dont hurt me, k?)

I think in the end ibonic is gold gm and nem is classic gm and con is bugger all

I think, if im wrong, correct me.

Tyhm 09-10-2002 11:21 PM

Things would be helped considerably if the website was updated, or at least updatable. I mean, it still says for people to submit .gifs with their levels, and to email NPCWs directly to Olorin basically. =_=

We have a structure. Nobody understands it, and nobody follows it. Until that changes, we can't really expect to get anything done.

The structure as I understand it is as follows
1) Owners/GMs: Stefan - coder, Unixmad - server
2) Asst. GM's: Nemesis - Classic tab, Ibonic - Gold tab, Galen - forum?
3) PW "Owners" (since PW Managers/PW Admins tends to refer to the reviewers)
4) PW's admins (GP Admin, Police Chief, LAT Admin, FAQ Admin, etc.)
5) PW Staff (GP, FAQ, LAT)

If you have a problem with a 5, report it to their 4 - ie tell Chronos if Soul is abusing his GP priveleges, and tell Tyhm if Soul is abusing his reviewer priveleges - not that Soul would, but he's a good cross-staff example.
If you have a problem with a 4 (such as they blew off your report or acknowledged it and laughed at you or something), report it to their 3. If Chronos gave you a wedgie for tattling on his best friend, you come to me.
If you have a problem with a 3 (which really shouldn't happen), you proceed to their 2. If a Gold admin messes with you, tell Ibonic. If a Classic server (not just Graal Classic, any non-subscription PW) owner messes with you, you tell Nem.
In the catastrophic event that a 2 is being abusive (and assuming you didn't skip a few steps - you can't expect Nemesis to give a crap about every GP on galbadia, nor know their names and emails), then and only then do you nag an owner about it.

That's always been my understanding. This way, every admin has to watch over at most like 30 sub-admins. You don't get the crossover trouble that we usually get, such as Lycia crowning herself Queen of the FAQs because two GMs thought it was the other one who approved it, you don't get the uber admins meddling with things they don't understand such as the famous...well, I won't name names, but some of us remember Stefan giving promotions to people who had a lot to learn about PR...it's a simple and effective system, but it needs a framework before we can realistically expect anyone to follow it.

zell12 09-11-2002 02:27 AM

Usually how its setup is that there is:
Manager
CoManager
Asst. Manager (If Needed)
Head Admin/Head Developer
Admin/Developer
GP Chief/Levels Admin/NPC Admin(If needed Guild Admin, etc...)
Captain(s) of their respected fields
LAT/NAT/GP
FAQ

If thats what you talking about after the GM stuff :O

Anyway, I hope you do stay Nemesis and try to focus on all the servers. Mabey you should make some new rules, like about the .gif images. Or Images like door.png can be diffrent on another server. This in turn overwrites the last one there, and you end up downloading them all over again. Mabey images made by the server should have the apprivation before the name. :)
Hmm, what else... Aww, we should all complain to get full power to Nem over classic servers, not so much so he can delete/create a server, but so he can edit accounts unixmad would only of done before, fire managers, restart npc servers, mass account resets on servers, etc... Reason being is because Stefan says he is always busy, and Unixmad is never on to ask...


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