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G_yoshi 02-19-2002 11:39 AM

New NEW NeW nEw Tilesets for Doragon Koden!
 
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Yesterday while transporting containers to our new home, my brother was rumaging through one of them and came across an old drawing I had done when I was younger. This drawing was of an mountainous island with various structures and what not. But that's not where my new tileset idea came from...rather it came from the shape of the land and mountains...which was basically a rip from Super Mario World. Now, before you get the wrong impression, I did not, REPEAT, did not rip anything from SMW (well, maybe took a screen shot to get a couple colors :D). But anyway, here is the new default_tiles.png. It's sorta unfinished because I'm trying to decide if I should add like little grass sprigs to the 16x16 grass tile...otherwise, it's plain :(

Let me know what you think :)

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ 02-19-2002 11:50 AM

It's pretty good. Mix of the old and the new. I would only find one problem with the trees. It seems to be too plain around the trees, and the julel (cliff edges) need to be a bit more detailed. But definately, your on the right track, good work :)

Frolic_RC2 02-19-2002 11:52 AM

Heh yeah, GYoshi those trees don't match anymore. Heh I would suggest, though, you keep your old tileset so my trees don't get replaced :D.

G_yoshi 02-19-2002 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by Frolic_RC2
Heh yeah, GYoshi those trees don't match anymore. Heh I would suggest, though, you keep your old tileset so my trees don't get replaced :D.
Yeah...I suppose you're right...but I like the shape of the trees...so I guess I can reduce colors in it...give it a more cartoony-Earthbound-like feel :)

homeless1 02-19-2002 01:35 PM

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in regards to the tiki statue thing in the south-west corner of the tile set, that you changed to blue.

You missed the 2 tiles that were made for those dudes so they can overlap each other diaganol to one another. They are the 2 that i outlines with red in the gif i attached.

Spanko 02-19-2002 08:22 PM

You should add a little bit of texture to the grass, it's a bit too pure green at the moment.

G_yoshi 02-19-2002 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by homeless1
in regards to the tiki statue thing in the south-west corner of the tile set, that you changed to blue.

You missed the 2 tiles that were made for those dudes so they can overlap each other diaganol to one another. They are the 2 that i outlines with red in the gif i attached.

heh, I already knew that...I plan to replace that statue anyway...but until I can find anything worth replacing it with...it stays :)

G_yoshi 02-19-2002 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by Spanko
You should add a little bit of texture to the grass, it's a bit too pure green at the moment.
yes...too much green is annoying...so I added some small blades of grass :)

mikepg 02-20-2002 12:13 AM

ahhh
 
I don't care for those tiles. I can see that you (or someone) worked really hard on them, and that's great. I'm not saying your tiles suck, I just like the original set a lot better.

Here's what I think is wrong:
Grass : I dont like the color green, a little too bright for my tastes
Cliffs : Original Idea, Just the yellow/orange clashes with that color of green grass
Trees : Look great, just dont seem to fit in
Overall : New/Old things dont seem to fit in the same game (Like grave Next to the large puddle stone (Not saying you'd do that)

Here's what I like:
Outsides Of Houses: These recoloring jobs look pretty good ;)
Floor Patterns : Most of them look awsome
Steps And Pillars : These used to be gold, but now are cyan. I like them.


You asked for our opinion, here is mine ;)

Spanko 02-20-2002 01:12 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi


yes...too much green is annoying...so I added some small blades of grass :)

You should also add them to do the borders of the diagonal cliff tiles etc., apart from that I like it.

Faheria_LAT1 02-20-2002 03:41 AM

mmmmkay: I dislike the colour of the cliff tiles.

Faheria_LAT3 02-20-2002 04:07 AM

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Originally posted by Faheria_LAT1
mmmmkay: I dislike the colour of the cliff tiles.
I actually think it's nifty, reminds me of old NES games. :-P

Faheria_LAT1 02-20-2002 04:10 AM

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Originally posted by Faheria_LAT3


I actually think it's nifty, reminds me of old NES games. :-P

mmmmkay: Accept they didn't use a filter ;D

Python523 02-20-2002 05:33 AM

I think it looks pretty good, maybe you should remake the house as well?

konidias 02-20-2002 06:35 AM

Can't say that I like it much... I prefer the old one.. Maybe it's just because I don't like bright colors in a tileset. :/

TDK_RC6 02-20-2002 07:36 AM

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Originally posted by Faheria_LAT1
mmmmkay: I dislike the colour of the cliff tiles.
agreed

lordhelmut 02-20-2002 08:11 AM

yea its kinda gross, I like your old one

royce 02-20-2002 09:20 AM

Screw the tileset. It doesnt look good at all.

Graal518 02-20-2002 09:32 AM

I don't like the colors.
Try adding more textures maybe.

Falcor 02-20-2002 10:54 AM

:megaeek: :megaeek: :megaeek: THERES GOLD IN THEM THAR HILLS!

G_yoshi 02-20-2002 01:42 PM

heh...like it or not...I'm keeping them :p

konidias 02-20-2002 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi
heh...like it or not...I'm keeping them :p
*watches doragon koden lose players due to the dictatorship* =P

Nishoku 02-20-2002 11:06 PM

Re: New NEW NeW nEw Tilesets for Doragon Koden!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by G_yoshi
Yesterday while transporting containers to our new home, my brother was rumaging through one of them and came across an old drawing I had done when I was younger. This drawing was of an mountainous island with various structures and what not. But that's not where my new tileset idea came from...rather it came from the shape of the land and mountains...which was basically a rip from Super Mario World. Now, before you get the wrong impression, I did not, REPEAT, did not rip anything from SMW (well, maybe took a screen shot to get a couple colors :D). But anyway, here is the new default_tiles.png. It's sorta unfinished because I'm trying to decide if I should add like little grass sprigs to the 16x16 grass tile...otherwise, it's plain :(

Let me know what you think :)

What if we think they both suck?

G_yoshi 02-20-2002 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by konidias


*watches doragon koden lose players due to the dictatorship* =P

heh...It's my playerworld...if you don't like it fine...I haven't even uploaded the new tilesets anyway...

There have been too many problems on other playerworlds that I want to avoid so I put in place rules that at least try to prevent those kinds of problems...such as why I'm the only one on my PW (aside from Stefan) that has access to all my files and NPC scripts.

I've been looking for some new tileset graphics...I can't find people that are interested in helping me with graphics either...so I'm stuck holding the bag. I know my tilesets aren't the best thing in the world...but they do look nice when put together :)

I just want it to have an Earthboundish feel.

konidias 02-21-2002 02:23 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi


heh...It's my playerworld...if you don't like it fine...I haven't even uploaded the new tilesets anyway...

I'm not trying to say I'm the only one that dislikes them and that it doesn't matter.. I'm saying that the majority of people here say they aren't that great. Meaning the majority of people won't be playing on your playerworld.

In other words, it might be your playerworld, but being a dictator on your pw isn't going to help you. You have to listen to what people think, not just use what you want to use.

I'm just trying to give you advice so Doragon Koden doesn't get shut down.. which it probably will if it continues to have an average of 2 people online a day. :(

When I make Oasis I'm not going to ignore peoples comments.. the people make your server, without them, your server is nothing. This isn't like an offline game where you make the entire thing and release it with a "if you like it, you like it" attitude. This is an online game where the customer's opinions will make or break your pw.

G_yoshi 02-21-2002 02:42 AM

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Originally posted by konidias


I'm not trying to say I'm the only one that dislikes them and that it doesn't matter.. I'm saying that the majority of people here say they aren't that great. Meaning the majority of people won't be playing on your playerworld.

In other words, it might be your playerworld, but being a dictator on your pw isn't going to help you. You have to listen to what people think, not just use what you want to use.

I'm just trying to give you advice so Doragon Koden doesn't get shut down.. which it probably will if it continues to have an average of 2 people online a day. :(

When I make Oasis I'm not going to ignore peoples comments.. the people make your server, without them, your server is nothing. This isn't like an offline game where you make the entire thing and release it with a "if you like it, you like it" attitude. This is an online game where the customer's opinions will make or break your pw.

so...you think I have time to sit online 24/7? WRONG! I do have a job and when I get done for the day, I usually don't want to do much...unless I had a really great idea. Besides, my PW is listed as UC now...I do work on it off and on. Like I've said before...I work on stuff, but I don't upload it very often.

I do listen to what people say...there are somethings that I've done different but much isn't noticible. It's not worth getting into an arguement over something so trivial. Also, I have very little staff...the staff I have now...I've not seen any progress on things I've tasked them with...nothing. I continually get left with the task of covering all aspects time and time again no matter how much I try to open up and let people help...it always fails. But I keep going because I'm not done with what I want to do :p

OutlawP2P 02-21-2002 03:13 AM

FIGHT ONO IAM SCARED!

konidias 02-21-2002 03:16 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi


so...you think I have time to sit online 24/7? WRONG! I do have a job and when I get done for the day, I usually don't want to do much...unless I had a really great idea. Besides, my PW is listed as UC now...I do work on it off and on. Like I've said before...I work on stuff, but I don't upload it very often.

I do listen to what people say...there are somethings that I've done different but much isn't noticible. It's not worth getting into an arguement over something so trivial. Also, I have very little staff...the staff I have now...I've not seen any progress on things I've tasked them with...nothing. I continually get left with the task of covering all aspects time and time again no matter how much I try to open up and let people help...it always fails. But I keep going because I'm not done with what I want to do :p

Where in my post did I say you had to sit online 24/7?
I just said that you should listen to the majority of people when making things for your server.

I'm sorry if you're taking this as an arguement because it isn't, I was just giving you advice, you can take it, or you can leave it, but you don't have to scream and yell at me and take things the wrong way. :/

CyberX 02-21-2002 04:52 AM

I think it's ok, but you could work better at those grass tiles...

G_yoshi 02-21-2002 09:41 AM

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Originally posted by konidias


Where in my post did I say you had to sit online 24/7?
I just said that you should listen to the majority of people when making things for your server.

I'm sorry if you're taking this as an arguement because it isn't, I was just giving you advice, you can take it, or you can leave it, but you don't have to scream and yell at me and take things the wrong way. :/

I'm sorry...:(

But it would be nice if I could get people talented in areas that I lack to help make things easier...but such talent is hard to find :/

Short_Blade 02-21-2002 09:46 AM

Tileset
 
I like some of it but other stuff I dont like *very bright* it is hard on my eyes I am talking about the mountains. Its crazy you should try using the old mountains colors or pretty close to them. Anyway I think the rest is fine so keep up the good work.

konidias 02-21-2002 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi


I'm sorry...:(

But it would be nice if I could get people talented in areas that I lack to help make things easier...but such talent is hard to find :/

You don't have to tell me, I know firsthand.. I'm a one man team working on Oasis.

slp 02-21-2002 12:17 PM

Re: New NEW NeW nEw Tilesets for Doragon Koden!
 
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Originally posted by G_yoshi
Yesterday while transporting containers to our new home, my brother was rumaging through one of them and came across an old drawing I had done when I was younger. This drawing was of an mountainous island with various structures and what not. But that's not where my new tileset idea came from...rather it came from the shape of the land and mountains...which was basically a rip from Super Mario World. Now, before you get the wrong impression, I did not, REPEAT, did not rip anything from SMW (well, maybe took a screen shot to get a couple colors :D). But anyway, here is the new default_tiles.png. It's sorta unfinished because I'm trying to decide if I should add like little grass sprigs to the 16x16 grass tile...otherwise, it's plain :(

Let me know what you think :)

Hey thats great, keep up the work.

G_yoshi 02-21-2002 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by konidias


You don't have to tell me, I know firsthand.. I'm a one man team working on Oasis.

heh, still, you're lucky...you have talents and abilities I wish I had :(

homeless1 02-21-2002 12:53 PM

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Im gfx admin of babylon, i like how alot of my stuff is used, but the server itself needs help :(

I have 2 things that ended up not being used that you can have if you want lol. If somebody else takes these pics for use on a server besides yoshi im gonna smack you.

homeless1 02-21-2002 12:54 PM

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And this, lol.

G_yoshi 02-21-2002 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by homeless1
Im gfx admin of babylon, i like how alot of my stuff is used, but the server itself needs help :(

I have 2 things that ended up not being used that you can have if you want lol. If somebody else takes these pics for use on a server besides yoshi im gonna smack you.

nice...but I wouldn't have a use for it

homeless1 02-21-2002 01:18 PM

LOL yah i know...nobody does for those 2 for SOME REASON. *cant think what*

Oh i had 2 really good ideas for the outside of houses, but how would you go about starting a tile set? *drew the house pics on paper already*

ZanderX 02-21-2002 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by konidias


You don't have to tell me, I know firsthand.. I'm a one man team working on Oasis.

Two person team. *huffs* Or do you want me to not work on the story for you? :P

G_yoshi 02-24-2002 12:23 AM

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Originally posted by ZanderX


Two person team. *huffs* Or do you want me to not work on the story for you? :P

You can help me :D


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