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konidias 01-25-2002 12:02 AM

Which playerworlds should be removed?
 
Okay, I'm sick of looking at a huge list of playerworlds and more then half of them have nothing on them at all. This is a multiple choice poll so just pick the servers you think should be removed..

Here are my reasons:

Andor - Been P2P, has good potential, but it is being completely rebuilt, it should not be an open P2P server since there is nothing to do but pick berries, and they are making an entire new world.. it's like they submitted it just to get it online so they could make another server? At least make it under construction.

Providence - Another P2P server being rebuilt.. has nothing to do on it, has barely any players on it, and when shadow knight left, he took all his work off of it.. it's pretty much empty.

Doragon Koden - Has good potential, but yet again, has nothing to do.. a couple dozen levels, one intro thing and a system that doesn't work. Should be under construction, because that's what it is.

Divided Kingdom - Um.. the server is deleted but still up? (wasnt this because of hacking?) I think this server had a bit more content but still no players..

X - I have yet to see anything to do.. a bunch of locked houses, small world, and it has been Under Construction for way too long.

Faheria - Hasn't really changed since it went Under Construction.. Bad levels up north, just a few levels with games on them.. been UC WAY too long.

Frolic - Empty, barren, wasteland... I'm not sure how long it has been UC but it shouldn't even be put up.. it's like 10 edited levels and the rest level generated. :/

These are all the waste of space servers that I think should be removed, (non-UC should either be taken off or be UC)

If you chose other, post what other servers you want removed, and maybe Stefan will look at this and take a look at the crap that is online. ;)

Faheria_LAT1 01-25-2002 12:06 AM

:rolleyes: Faheria? Right.. it should be removed because we are taking the time we need in making a top quality PW? That makes so much sense :rolleyes:

konidias 01-25-2002 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Faheria_LAT1
:rolleyes: Faheria? Right.. it should be removed because we are taking the time we need in making a top quality PW? That makes so much sense :rolleyes:
It should be removed because you're taking as much time to make your pw as the people that don't have theirs online. Meaning there is no point in it being online since you're basically not putting anything new online.

yoshee15 01-25-2002 12:13 AM

Re: Which playerworlds should be removed?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by konidias


Faheria - Hasn't really changed since it went Under Construction.. Bad levels up north, just a few levels with games on them.. been UC WAY too long.


ok, bad levels up north because they are the test servers levels. if you'd get on, i'd actually show you some stuff instead of assuming we have nothing to do on there. the west coast's levels are the only levels on the server which will be used in Omega Faheria.

konidias 01-25-2002 12:16 AM

Re: Re: Which playerworlds should be removed?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by yoshee15

ok, bad levels up north because they are the test servers levels. if you'd get on, i'd actually show you some stuff instead of assuming we have nothing to do on there. the west coast's levels are the only levels on the server which will be used in Omega Faheria.

Boxing.. with the 0 other people online.. skateboarding.. that didn't even work when I tried it.. what else is there? There are no Police on, because there is nothing to police, there is on one holding events, because there are no events to be held.

Faheria is not as active as 2k1.. and I mean that in every way possible, not just playercount.. there are no faq, because there is nothing that you need help with, there are no quests, there is no story, there is nothing.

Please explain to me why you're playerworld should be labeled as a "running" playerworld, when there isn't anything to keep anyone entertained for 5 minutes and there is no staff to help players because there is nothing to help them with.

psichill 01-25-2002 12:16 AM

People are so (excuse my french) ****ING ANNOYING!
Why don't they just wait tell there server is done?
I am konidias's side on this.
I don't belive in Under Construction. Just take down all of the UC ones and then when they're done apply again and see if anyone likes it. Insted of lagging graal, makeing stefan & unixmad pay more damn money and such. And why do we have ghosts? If stefan just made everything P2P people would quit for abuot a day and then talk to someone on AIM to get them an upgrade. hah it would be soo funny how much money stefan & unixmad would make! Or if he wanted new people to come then just have one free server like ToT did where is had all sorts of stuff people could do. And then stefan could put a server cap on it. And if people like to have staff accounts so much, why not make them pay for it?! Stefan should have those accounts on reserve untill somoene wants to pay for an account. And the only people that get free accounts are the Graal admins and the server Owner and Co-Owner, if there is no Co-Owner then they have 1 account extra for someone. There are so many more ways stefan & unixmad could make some serious cash.

Shorty2Dope 01-25-2002 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by psichill
People are so (excuse my french) ****ING ANNOYING!
Why don't they just wait tell there server is done?
I am konidias's side on this.
I don't belive in Under Construction. Just take down all of the UC ones and then when they're done apply again and see if anyone likes it. Insted of lagging graal, makeing stefan & unixmad pay more damn money and such. And why do we have ghosts? If stefan just made everything P2P people would quit for abuot a day and then talk to someone on AIM to get them an upgrade. hah it would be soo funny how much money stefan & unixmad would make! Or if he wanted new people to come then just have one free server like ToT did where is had all sorts of stuff people could do. And then stefan could put a server cap on it. And if people like to have staff accounts so much, why not make them pay for it?! Stefan should have those accounts on reserve untill somoene wants to pay for an account. And the only people that get free accounts are the Graal admins and the server Owner and Co-Owner, if there is no Co-Owner then they have 1 account extra for someone. There are so many more ways stefan & unixmad could make some serious cash.

I am with Koni also. These playerworlds have been UC forever. There is a million boring, stupid servers on the list. Almost all are UC, half been UC for more then 4-5 months. (except TDK, DK?) They need to just vote which playerworlds should stay. Give them all one month to get there server going and prepare and then have all graal players vote. Say maybe let them choose 3 servers they like. The ones with the lowest amount go.

Just sum ideas =/

habek 01-25-2002 01:11 AM

i'm also with koni.
i'm starting to fed up of PW's under UC for too long.
Faheria always discriminate other PWs because they are under UC for too long, i have been gone for a month and when i log back to faheria, i was expecting something new, but i saw nothing new.
and everytime i asked a staff on Faheria to show me stuff, they only tell me 2 things. either wait for omega faheria or the didnt reply

(koni, i hope you Oasis wont be like this)

sorry for my very very very bad english. it's not my first language

lordhelmut 01-25-2002 01:17 AM

Faheria is amazing but take it down until its ready to come up? Doesnt that sound fair?

Kino 01-25-2002 01:17 AM

me too
 
I'm with Koni as well
we need good old school servers with tons of people to hang out with..games being played all the time...hard difficult time consuming quests..not the crap with the vase on the one tile maze....and i hate p2p servers...the people usually on them is RC and staff

Beowulf2 01-25-2002 01:46 AM

Okay, Faheria deserves to be online as a UC server. Why? Because it requires an NPC server for it to function in the way it was intended. If you want to have a good playerworld, this is essential. Look at all these other crappy servers, like X and Unholy Nation, and Delteria. Why are these all up? They all suck, and don't belong up.

If you haven't seen the work that's been put into Faheria, then you don't really know how it's going to turn out. I expect the best from it.

Oxy-Moron 01-25-2002 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Beowulf2
Okay, Faheria deserves to be online as a UC server. Why? Because it requires an NPC server for it to function in the way it was intended. If you want to have a good playerworld, this is essential...
Bah bah bah then I mock teh sarvars that me has not lookeded at in faraver but mast be right aboot cuz things does not change evar.

Just had to throw that in there ^^

I thought DK was supposed to go down before, by the way. Like didn't Yoshi want it down? Anyway, yeah the other P2P servers like Andor don't do much... I'd say get rid of them, but they aren't doing much harm to anyone. If anywhere, though, I'd say take down Frolic, since it simply hasn't shown any progress since going up. At least we KNOW Faheria's actually has work in progress.

Faheria_LAT3 01-25-2002 01:58 AM

I'll be more than willing to take it down, if you are that impatient and you don't want to have a nice quality playerworld to play on, then just say the words and I'll let it go. And you'll be stuck with the rest of these horrid playerworlds, I'm tired of wasting my time on graphics and what not just to hear people complain.

Kino 01-25-2002 02:08 AM

I dont...
 
I don't know how Delteria or Unholy Natino got to be so godo caue i went on there adn they suck bad....i'm telling you Nostaliga on classic is the ****

Oxy-Moron 01-25-2002 02:15 AM

Re: I dont...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kino
i'm telling you Nostaliga on classic is the ****
Oh my :eek:

And he's making a player world ><

Kino 01-25-2002 02:19 AM

im not making a playerworld?
 
im not making a playerworld!?!?!
i work on Eclipse

Oxy-Moron 01-25-2002 02:21 AM

Ah, my mistake, forgot that the guy who's making Mystia just posts on your account then...

I just hope your friend doesnt' share your tastes-_-

Kino 01-25-2002 02:31 AM

why
 
whast wrong with my tastes..casue i like orignality instead of fancyness

konidias 01-25-2002 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Faheria_LAT3
I'll be more than willing to take it down, if you are that impatient and you don't want to have a nice quality playerworld to play on, then just say the words and I'll let it go. And you'll be stuck with the rest of these horrid playerworlds, I'm tired of wasting my time on graphics and what not just to hear people complain.
Why did you submit it to go online if it wasn't anywhere near finished? Hell, I know dozens of current pw makers that would LOVE to test stuff online like you do.. I don't think it's fair for the UC people and P2P worlds to be getting a free npc server to play around with, and not producing anything to the public for them to enjoy.. it's basically like "here is your npc server to screw around with for as long as you want" Stefan said somewhere that he doesn't want to accept any more UC playerworlds because there are so many already.. you guys are taking up everyone elses testing space.

How long have you been under construction anyway? I thought 2 weeks was the limit..

Kino 01-25-2002 02:53 AM

man
 
if i had a server up like that i would make levels night adn day and uplado them non stop for ppl to play with adn stuff
but all i can do is make levels no scirpting..or nothing

OutlawP2P 01-25-2002 02:55 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Beowulf2
[B]X and Unholy Nation, and Delteria. Why are these all up? They all suck, and don't belong up.

YOU IDIOT YOU FORGOT NPULSE BECAUSE IT SUCKS BECAUSE MG IS OWNER, I SAY GIVE IT TO ARCHAON HE CAN FIX IT UP AND BRING IT BACK

Kino 01-25-2002 03:00 AM

o
 
n-pulse..just listen to the name..npulse lol

LiquidIce00 01-25-2002 03:21 AM

its funny
I dont recall a time when Konidias said "wow this is good"
except when he makes stuff himself .. then its good.

I agree that Faheria is taking a long time .. so the pw when it comes out better be good..

but the last threads Konidias made was stuff like
"Should this be online"
"Shouldnt owners get paid"

plus I think ur just saying all this stuff b/c ur making ur playerworld and you want a p2p world off so you can get yours up.

Falcor 01-25-2002 03:23 AM

Rule of thumb, stay away from UC servers. DONT PLAY ON THEM. they are uncder construction because the npc server is needed to make them. If there were another way to freely test levels/npcs in an online environment, there would be no UC. But since there is no way, they exsist. deal with it. Take down servers that are not UC that suck, becasue they obviously arnt getting really any better, but UC means they are UNDER CONSTRUCTION..


Think of it this way


Do you stop building a building when its Under construction and looks bad? The building is a metal frame! Its been under construction too long and looks horrible.there is no way it will be an office building with high paying jobs and coorperate intrests becasue it looks ugly when its UC... Yes this metaphor does fit.

See how New World has been under construction for Years. It will be a good pw. You cant just throw a plasyerwolrd together with 2 staff memebers making NPCs and levels inependantly. its WAY more organizied to do it online. I also think its unfair that your are critisizing hard work saying it takes to long, as the cliche goes. "Rome wasnt built in a day." niether should playerworlds, they should be built over time. It makes it better quality then being rushed.

cross_hair 01-25-2002 03:25 AM

Just make on test server for different pw's they can share the npc server

(if its possible)

Nø

Kino 01-25-2002 03:29 AM

o
 
NARF!!#!@

konidias 01-25-2002 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LiquidIce00
its funny
I dont recall a time when Konidias said "wow this is good"
except when he makes stuff himself .. then its good.

plus I think ur just saying all this stuff b/c ur making ur playerworld and you want a p2p world off so you can get yours up.

Umm.. read the future murasmune tileset thread.. I complimented that like 1-2 days ago.. :rolleyes:

I highly doubt I will have to worry about getting my playerworld up in the first place.. I have just become interesting in pw's and noticed how terrible some of them are. I never say my own work is good, and it's so obvious you have something against me.

Plus, I think "ur" just mad "b/c" I think "ur" playerworld sucks, and "ur" just saying all this "b/c" "ur" assuming things about me just "b/c" I'm also making a playerworld.

I also think that you say "ur" because you don't know the difference between you're and your. :rolleyes:

Kino 01-25-2002 03:36 AM

haha
 
what is your pw konidias

konidias 01-25-2002 03:40 AM

Re: haha
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Kino
what is your pw konidias
It isn't online yet.. it's called Oasis.. *look at sig*

Kino 01-25-2002 03:41 AM

ooo
 
its cute
(hhaha)
are those the graphics for it

AlexH 01-25-2002 03:41 AM

how big you gonna be making your overworld Koni
i hope its nowhere near the size of g2k2
thats way to big
2k1s a nice size

konidias 01-25-2002 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlexH
how big you gonna be making your overworld Koni
i hope its nowhere near the size of g2k2
thats way to big
2k1s a nice size

Eh.. somewhere around 25x25 to 35x35 levels.. Not quite sure yet.

psichill 01-25-2002 04:06 AM

Koni can you show us a glimps of what the Quest house look like inside?

Jinx 01-25-2002 04:46 AM

UC servers should be monitored closely by a PW guy or someone at least, to see if there is any improvement at all. The server may be UC, but it is still a server. Faheria and X have been UC way to long, with not very much improvement.

Who knows, maybe their making the best server's that will ever be a part of graal, but until then they shouldn't waste space on the serverlist.

-Jinx

Torankusu 01-25-2002 04:59 AM

Konidias,
The UnderConstruction symbol is there for a reason.

Why isn't TDK up there, not that I want it to be?

Torankusu 01-25-2002 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jinx
UC servers should be monitored closely by a PW guy or someone at least, to see if there is any improvement at all. The server may be UC, but it is still a server. Faheria and X have been UC way to long, with not very much improvement.

Who knows, maybe their making the best server's that will ever be a part of graal, but until then they shouldn't waste space on the serverlist.

-Jinx

I've been to Faheria a few times, and I have seen ALOT of stuff. There's alot to do, like different types of farming, a decent fishing thing, duck hunting, paintball which is better than most I have seen, and alot of nice ganis. Just because they don't release it all because *some people* steal the ideas and things doesn't mean there is no progress at all.

X should be removed.

psichill 01-25-2002 05:02 AM

WTS! X IS BOMB! LYCIA f34 LIEF!

Torankusu 01-25-2002 05:03 AM

Re: Which playerworlds should be removed?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by konidias

Divided Kingdom - Um.. the server is deleted but still up? (wasnt this because of hacking?) I think this server had a bit more content but still no players..


Ah, I see.

You are more than welcome to fix the NPC-Server.

Androk2k1 01-25-2002 05:07 AM

Delete every server there is! Leave just Classic and 2001! Why? Simple! All other servers have nothing original on them! It's either 2001 rip off (Andor, Enigma), or Classic Rip off (N-Plus some other server)! Just make those owners work! I hate servers like that! Wait till peopel actually think what they put up and shut server down if say they don't add anything new at least 1nce per 2 weeks (at least 1 darn level)!

ZanderX 01-25-2002 05:09 AM

Shadow Knight still works on Providence last time I checked.


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