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Huggles 06-06-2001 08:34 AM

Nothar
 
www.geocities.com/captin_usa/Nothar.txt

Im personaly detailing all levels.... We have a scripters, Goku JF is main...

Stefan if you can help us script our boats to travel zones and really dock places that would be great......

Supporting Us,
King Clops and all of Baddies
Goku JF
Captain USA
Kain


Admins 06-06-2001 08:48 AM

Oh an oldbie server?
Are you needing boats like the fisher boat
or do you better want to wait till I have added
the attach-object-to-object thing (where you can
move on the boat) ?

XilosTinsu 06-06-2001 08:50 AM

OFF Subject but stefan where did you get your sig, is that Graal3D?

Admins 06-06-2001 08:51 AM

Yes combination of Graal3D beta 2 and 3,
but geshtar & co are making very cool new
actor models that will beat my simple ninji
body&head

Lyndzey8000 06-06-2001 09:21 AM

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Oh an oldbie server?
Are you needing boats like the fisher boat
or do you better want to wait till I have added
the attach-object-to-object thing (where you can
move on the boat) ?
COOL! People might actually pay for the boat now =P


Huggles 06-06-2001 01:00 PM

Il prefer to wait..... We want to get all levels detailed and done... Then we will focus on scripting our boats....... Thats our main importance as scripts....

Then we will add the quest npcs and then the races.... and if we feel up to it.... We will add classes....

I do plan on adding classes eventualy... I do not want to haste on my work making it messy......... =-)

freddyfox 06-06-2001 08:56 PM

Re: Nothar
 
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Originally posted by Huggles

Supporting Us,
King Clops and all of Baddies
Goku JF
Captain USA
Kain
Vermain who made the whole freaking story


sandin 06-06-2001 11:25 PM

Stefan Read it Please
 
i am the face monster, roar!

www.stinkybear.cjb.net/spos

Huggles 06-06-2001 11:49 PM

Sorry vermain..... Forgot you put you in the credit...... Vermain made a GREAT story..... hes a great staff member and will be cherished..... BUT HES ALL MINE NOW!$!*#$*@#*%$@

This is his Amazing Story he came up with.....
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STORY
When the creation of the many wonderous worlds in the universe began, a seemingly calm world that was known by the angelic bodies as Nothar. There were many gods that fought over the worlds, and eventually, several gods made their way to Nothar. The first to arrive was a woman by the name of Mana, and she created the continents and blessed this world with the ability of mana. She created the elves, magical creatures who adored the forest. The next god who came, Harlander, created the humans who were deposited on the biggest continent, which had no name at that moment. The humans, as they evolved, eventually named that continent Aonitar. They set up settlements in the North, East, and South. However, this planet could not go without seeing some sort of war. Eventually, the world attracted the likes of the evil demon Daemon, god of Terror. He created the orcs, powerful beings with magical properties. He also created the Bugs, odd humanoid creatures that were bread for war. From the living earth, he sculpted the islands of Grogg, which were inhabited by the Bugs and others of his evil creations. The other races were appalled by the newest races, and fled in terror from their sharp swords. The humans eventually crafted ships, and they sailed off from Aonitar. The first boat eventually arrived at the continent known as Dakfay, inhabited by the elves and the orcs. The elves taught the humans about magical powers, and the humans eventually learned how to use the powerful destructive force known as magic. The second boat that sailed went to the very cold north. Everyone except for 20 people and the leader of the ship, Argoth, died from the extreme frostbitten conditions. However, Daemon saw an opprotunity and offered to build a city for them and give them great magical powers in exchange for their souls. They agreed, and exchanged their wills for a city and great magic. Argoth had such great powers, he managed to keep the city warm while the outside remainded cold.

Now, here you are today, as more and more islands are being discovered. The Bugs are in continued conflict with the humans and the elves, while they continue construction on their grand palace. The elves still reside on Dakfay, while some have travelled to the human settlements. The orcs continue to lay waste to the beautiful Dakfay Forests. The sorcerers to the north in the frozen lands continue to worship the powerful Daemon, and are in constant battle with an unknown enemy to the west. The humans continue their arcane studies and set up marvelous cities. In this age of grand design, you are a mere soul. But what you do not know, is that your mere soul could change the very future of the world...





The year is now around 1856 A.D (After Daemon)
The Humans have now created 3 major cities. One in the North, East, and West.
The elves have created a city in the trees and now are in constant battles with the smelly orcs.
The Northern Sorcerers have gained super magics, but are not known about..... yet
The Bugs have crafted a grand palace to honor their leader, King Klaknek.
Many new races have come. To the far West, several meteorites have crashed, and out have crawled strange creatures known to the humans as "Bomy's"
Daemon has created a large palace known as Ragnor Rock and now resides there.
The many humans who have learned magic now study more vigoura



We will base Nothar on this story hes also coming up with stories for the bomys and the bugs, The Giants and the humans, The 2 dragons that take 10 people or more to kill that drop a heart and only reappear once per week.... if not killed will despawn......


Heres the Cyclops story he made....

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Cyclops's are one eyed creatures that live far out on Grogg. They have immense physical strength and can use magical attacks. Their leader, King Clops, is the only cyclops that has a horn, which symbolizes he is king.

They are, however, in constant conflicts with the giants, since they believe they're the only "true" race that is desired on Nothar. Not much history is recorded, since they have no written language and are not known to outsiders.

The humans and elves often trade goods and battle tactics between eachother. The elves exchange magic scrolls for finely crafted human weapons such as swords and bows.

Not many wars have started in the past 600 years, since many of Daemon's forces were drawn back. Argoth and his group of humans, devoted to Daemon have little or no concern for the other races, except for the ones to the west of them.

Not all is peaceful though, as Daemon's troops patrol the continents, waiting for the time to strike. The orcs constantly attack the elves with their magic and weapons. The Bugs become more powerful and skilled everyday, and are the most common patrollers. Daemon continues to sprinkle the lands with monsters of his own design. Even the once peaceful animals now turn and snarl when a creature draws near. It is a time of fear, and only with strength will the lighter races survive the brutality of Daemon.

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Now heres the recruitment text I made......

Currently We are mainly looking for Duengen Designers, Scripters and GFX makers mainly.... So if you apply for a different job dont get your hopes up but if your good and talented I will hire you.


Jobs that are Opened:
ICQ: 82368987 (Note: If you dont want a job and just want my icq you will be put on ignore unless some one told you my ICQ or you need to talk to me)

Story Designers: Main Story Designer Taken, Assistant Story Designer job is open and then the regular Story Designer job is open...

Level Designers: You will make houses, castles insides, and add detail.

Scripters: As of now we have Goku (A great scripter) but he cannot script the entire world by him self so.

Duengen Designers: You need to be creative, need a interest in puzzles, mazes, etc.

GFX Makers: If you decide to help me make GFX I would love it, you would help make race bodies, weapons, armor, etc.

Now let me describe what I plan for my PW

Nothar will be a world unlike others we wont have a intro you will just start with which race you picked... We plan to make dragons that take 10 people to kill.... Quests that will be challenging.. Real tailoring and blacksmithing.. meaning you wont get body3.png without tailoring or blacksmithing it.

This wont be exactly roleplay server but try to roleplay a little atleast. PKing will be allowed ofcourse.

This playerworld includes 5 continents... 5+duengens
If your a good level designer you can be assigned to work on a continent personally.

We have beta phases
Beta 1-Level Design and Detail
Beta 2-Inside houses, towns, castles
Beta 3-Take storyline and script quests by storyline and so on
Beta 4-Adding the races, classes
Beta 5-Finishing touches and release of Nothar
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We got alot of work before we put it online like other PWs =-)

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So far we got as our crew. We hope you can join us!
Goku (JF)
Kain
King Clops
Captain USA
Vermain
Merlin
Chris Rubeus
Devine (Baddies)
Draco
Beowulf
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And Many others that contribute items, scripts, graphics, levels for us.......

Huggles 06-07-2001 10:06 AM

Argh

Bomy player race is not allowed? I would like to talk to you sometime on Icq stefan..... We made a giant cave for bomys and bugs and they are at war and well its all neato ^_^

Macens 06-07-2001 11:50 AM

Um!
 
Um, I would like to try-out for a LAT job on Nothar. It sounds very interesting and I think you can get somewhere with it.

activeconvict 06-12-2001 09:57 PM

Hmm..

activeconvict 06-12-2001 10:21 PM

OH YEAH DUDE, MIDDLE EARTH WILL r0x0r YOUR s0x0rz

Kaimetsu 06-12-2001 10:28 PM

Re: Sorry
 
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2. A bomy forever on Dark Legion

Stefan should ban playerworlds from using bomies.

Kaimetsu 06-12-2001 10:47 PM

Re: Re: lol
 
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Originally posted by Neonight



Tell Graal3000 that James/Nate whichever one uses that account. Maybe you're right. Maybe you're wrong. This server is the most NPC Advanced server on Graal. Higher than Graal2001.

I could script everything you mentioned and I'm sure Stefan could. I'll wager you couldn't manage the railroad tracks, though.

freddyfox 06-12-2001 10:57 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: lol
 
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Originally posted by Neonight



I'll make ya the bet then. Script a whole new bomy,flamethrower, make ALL of the custom gifs that I have made, make 57 new bomy gifs, (not sent in yet), make the day/night work WITHOUT the overworld NPC server. THEN AND ONLY THEN will I believe you can do it. OO yea while ur at it make the swingset and the whole park! Hell! Even make the pinball! Go script a brand new bank system. Over 700 lines of scripting in a bank system. See if you can make it in 2 hours. I'd like to see ya try.

700 LINES?

KYLE IS GOING TO GO INTO SEIZURE MODE!

Kaimetsu 06-12-2001 11:05 PM

Re: Re: Re: Re: lol
 
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Originally posted by Neonight

I'll make ya the bet then. Script a whole new bomy,flamethrower, make ALL of the custom gifs that I have made, make 57 new bomy gifs, (not sent in yet), make the day/night work WITHOUT the overworld NPC server. THEN AND ONLY THEN will I believe you can do it.

You idiot. Try to do research on the people you diss, please. You have no idea how good I am, or you wouldn't have issued that challenge.

And what have gifs to do with scripting?

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OO yea while ur at it make the swingset and the whole park! Hell! Even make the pinball! Go script a brand new bank system. Over 700 lines of scripting in a bank system. See if you can make it in 2 hours. I'd like to see ya try.
Again, you are an idiot. You don't show off about making an NPC with over 700 lines, you *****. THAT'S A BAD THING.

freddyfox 06-12-2001 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by Neonight
The Ninja Night is the best scripter (other than Stefan and 2 staff members) in all of Graal.
THAT IS HILARIOUS! HAHA!

freddyfox 06-12-2001 11:29 PM

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Originally posted by Neonight
-_- What's so funny? He is! Scripted the d/n out of scratch and made a weather system. Are their any other servers with weather (not just Sylvesters like on G2k1 but actual rain) ??? Nope. Sorry don't see em.
Rain lags up the screen. And I know scripters who are FAR ahead of Night Ninja and have made multiple NPC's for the NPC server and they all know how to make a Day/Night script.

Kaimetsu 06-12-2001 11:30 PM

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Originally posted by Neonight
You STILL don't get it. The Ninja Night is the best scripter (other than Stefan and 2 staff members) in all of Graal.
Bwahaha!

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I HIGHLY doubt you could script 700 lines of 1 NPC in a bank system that follows you in your inventory as a weapon in 2 hours from nothing but scratch.
I wouldn't use 700 lines, you dolt. Mine would probably be done in something like 50.

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GIFs have a lot to do. You have to script gifs in. if(weaponfired){ then script the gif here }
That's not about making graphics, though. Just using them.

Kaimetsu 06-12-2001 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by freddyfox


Rain lags up the screen. And I know scripters who are FAR ahead of Night Ninja and have made multiple NPC's for the NPC server and they all know how to make a Day/Night script.

Rain doesn't have to lag. It depends on the scripting.

Yeah, and Neonight, ToT has a weather system and anybody with half a brain could make day & night.

freddyfox 06-12-2001 11:38 PM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Rain doesn't have to lag. It depends on the scripting.

Yeah, and Neonight, ToT has a weather system and anybody with half a brain could make day & night.

If you've ever seen X's weather system, you'll know where my hate comes from.

I was one of the first people to experiment with day/night, didn't get too far, though. Managed to get it to change from night - day frequently. Of course, I'm better at levels than scripting.

Kaimetsu 06-12-2001 11:39 PM

It all depends on how you define lag. By the traditional meaning (ie internet latency), it can be bypassed. You might mean clientside slowdown, though.

Kaimetsu 06-12-2001 11:48 PM

Re: Hmmm
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Neonight
Kaimetsu is right. Rain doesn't HAVE to lag. Actually it's going to be pretty fast unless u have a modm that's about .5kps.
A good rain system won't lag no matter how slow your modem is because it's clientside.

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I REALLY hate to argue about ****, but the bank NPC HAS to be 700+ lines. Unless I want to make it a shitty one that takes about 5 minutes (which I don't)
Alright, what does it do?

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and SOMEHOW I still don't see anyone that can make a day/night system that runs in real time so it could be dark at 1:00 AM and light at 1:00 PM.
Easy. Timevar almost does that for us. We just need to make the time ratio 1:1. Of course, there's the problem with time zones...

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Right now, (heh no one knows much about it because I haven't said much) I am making a time system that runs off of your computer. Say it's rainy in Chicago, yet hot and dry in Houston. The people in Chicago (or near such as Geovanie) will see rain, but people in Houston (Nate,King Arthur,Appolo) will see it is hot and dry.
Such a thing is impossible. Graal cannot access that information - it would have to be inputted manually. AND it would be a bad idea for many reasons.

Kaimetsu 06-12-2001 11:51 PM

Re: Re: Re: Hmmm
 
1: What does the bank do?
2: What did the radio do?

Nai 06-12-2001 11:52 PM

Re: Hmmm
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Neonight
Kaimetsu is right. Rain doesn't HAVE to lag. Actually it's going to be pretty fast unless u have a modm that's about .5kps. I never saw ToT's system. I do, however, know that ToT is huge. I know it's pretty mum right now, but we'll find out soon enough. The 1st lvl in ToT lags like hell for me. I dunno why, but it just is. I REALLY hate to argue about ****, but the bank NPC HAS to be 700+ lines. Unless I want to make it a shitty one that takes about 5 minutes (which I don't) and SOMEHOW I still don't see anyone that can make a day/night system that runs in real time so it could be dark at 1:00 AM and light at 1:00 PM. Right now, (heh no one knows much about it because I haven't said much) I am making a time system that runs off of your computer. Say it's rainy in Chicago, yet hot and dry in Houston. The people in Chicago (or near such as Geovanie) will see rain, but people in Houston (Nate,King Arthur,Appolo) will see it is hot and dry.
modem*

You can't do that with a weather system you fool. I bet have of your server is just test levels with the d/n script and weather script. If it is over 700+ lines, that is crap. You can make a very good one like in Graal Classics with only about 10-30 lines. If it is over 700+ he must have problems with scripting.

vergil 06-12-2001 11:57 PM

HEY YOU GUYS I AM THE BEST TEST SCRIPTOR THERES NO DOUBTABOUT IT
NPC Code:
if (playerenters) {hurt 23490238423490;}



pure GENIOUS

anyway in my expierence anyone who calls all images relating to Graal "gifs" doenst know what theyre talking about, GIF is an image format, its not the -only- one. and certainly not the only one in Graal

vergil 06-13-2001 12:02 AM

...um, do YOU even know what you just said?

Kaimetsu 06-13-2001 12:04 AM

Re: -_-
 
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Originally posted by Neonight
Kaimetsu: The bank allows you to deposit,deposit all,withdraw,withdraw all,show balance. IT also has the script in it for the *system* NPC and will delete the script within it if you already have the system NPC.
Kaimetsu estimate: 30 lines needed.

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I have encrypted the GT and MTC code inside the NPC so if you use it, it will give you newbie stats, take all of your money, and ban you. :D that's most of the script.
"GT" and "MTC"?

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Radio: hooked up to a radio station near me (with permission) so you could ACTUALLY listen to real music and not little tiny 30 second long midis. Yes these buffer through my 2nd computer (cable so it runs all day long 24 hours a day) and it converts the songs into midis to run through your computer. Yes it had a bit of lag and I was going to put it up on Graal at the end of the summer, but like I said the virus wiped my C:\ drive.
You're saying it streams directly from a radio station onto Graal's servers?

Kaimetsu 06-13-2001 12:04 AM

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Originally posted by vergil
anyway in my expierence anyone who calls all images relating to Graal "gifs" doenst know what theyre talking about, GIF is an image format, its not the -only- one. and certainly not the only one in Graal
Um... I sometimes do that and I certainly know what I'm talking about.

Nai 06-13-2001 12:09 AM

GT and MTC? You idiot, those are hacking programs for Graal! Also, they are Hard-Coded. You cannot Hard-Code DLLs into Graal NCP Scripts because it would say like, "Unkown Command, "sdkjsdkjsadj". What an idiot...

Kaimetsu 06-13-2001 12:09 AM

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Originally posted by Neonight
GT and MTC are hacking tools. Yes u r correct about the radio. (Used a lot of space on my ocmputer tho. A little over 1 GB) No the GT and MTC codes are in the bank script. That itself takes about 550.
...you put some code for a hacking tool in your NPC?

vergil 06-13-2001 12:13 AM

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Originally posted by Kaimetsu


Um... I sometimes do that and I certainly know what I'm talking about.

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in my expierence
i dont know you and ive never talked to you before

Kaimetsu 06-13-2001 12:14 AM

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Originally posted by vergil




i dont know you and ive never talked to you before

You were saying that your experience suggested a statistical trend. I simply disproved this trend. I didn't say that your statement was incorrect.

vergil 06-13-2001 12:14 AM

Kaimetsu i think hes trying to say he put anti-cheating protection in his NPC. wooohoo thats hard..

Nai 06-13-2001 12:15 AM

MTC AND GT ARE NOT NPCS! THEY ARE CODED DLLs AND OTHER CODING FILES! THEY HAVE FILES THAT RUN THROUGH OTHER THINGS SUCH AS GRAAL OR AIM! You cannot convert Coded Files into GIFs you idiot.

vergil 06-13-2001 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by Neonight



IS THAT NOT WHAT I SAID? HACKING TOOLS? God damn vergil learn to read. It isn't a dll file it's converted to a PTF (I believe I don't remember) THEN converted to gif. All pictures are, are little scambled up letters and numbers. Like the binary code. If you convert a gif then open it in wordpad, it'll show you.


da what/ who..>? where???
i'm not Nai I'm vergil, Nai posted that..

Nai 06-13-2001 12:17 AM

Are you going to hack 2k1 considering you have GT and MTC?

Kaimetsu 06-13-2001 12:18 AM

Basically... it seems he has converted a hacking thingy into raw code, and placed it in his NPC. To prevent against errors, he has presumably commented out the whole thing. The question, then, is... Why?

Nai 06-13-2001 12:19 AM

How can you stop hacking with a hacking tool though? Got ya there dont I!


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