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Fiberwyre_P2P 06-04-2013 06:15 PM
Zone and GK
 
I noticed today that GK and Zone are listed under Playerworlds. Does this mean I now have lifetime classic on Zone and GK?

I was also told that Graal is going Free-to-Play soon. Is that true?

Dragon551 06-04-2013 06:53 PM
No, I don't believe so.
I just logged into GK and it seems like Gold is still a requirement to fully play the server. My level is capped at 10 and I still get the message on top telling me to upgrade my account.

It looks like they just put the Gold and Classic servers under one category, I don't think it'll change the game play.

MonkeyBob 06-04-2013 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1718813)
No, I don't believe so.
I just logged into GK and it seems like Gold is still a requirement to fully play the server. My level is capped at 10 and I still get the message on top telling me to upgrade my account.

It looks like they just put the Gold and Classic servers under one category, I don't think it'll change the game play.
Well that's dumb z.z

dylan 06-04-2013 09:24 PM
I believe the plan, as it stands, is to rid of Zone and apply GK as a classic server.

NicoX 06-04-2013 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1718813)
No, I don't believe so.
I just logged into GK and it seems like Gold is still a requirement to fully play the server. My level is capped at 10 and I still get the message on top telling me to upgrade my account.

It looks like they just put the Gold and Classic servers under one category, I don't think it'll change the game play.
There is something planned.

BlueMelon 06-04-2013 09:40 PM
I assume they put it under player worlds because something will change, probably a new type of subscription model or some kind of gelat shop (if it doesn't already have it)

knightfire35 06-04-2013 09:42 PM
I'm really hoping that this is a sign of a new subscription model to come.

dylan 06-05-2013 01:40 AM
Zone has been removed from its Classic status.

Dragon551 06-05-2013 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by dylan (Post 1718834)
Zone has been removed from its Classic status.
So it begins...

NicoX 06-05-2013 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1718835)
So it begins...
Zone was supposed to go down anyway. It is completly dead.

Dragon551 06-05-2013 02:27 AM
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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1718836)
Zone was supposed to go down anyway. It is completly dead.
But Graal it self is still up o.o

NicoX 06-05-2013 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1718837)
But Graal it self is still up o.o
If you see it from another perspective, Graal is doing pretty fine with the mobile servers. The pc version just needs some attention and it would be fine.

dude2020 06-05-2013 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1718838)
The pc version just needs some attention and it would be fine.
It needs a bit more than that.

knightfire35 06-05-2013 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1718838)
If you see it from another perspective, Graal is doing pretty fine with the mobile servers. The pc version just needs some attention and it would be fine.
This. Plus, removing a serving that had 0 players for the majority of the time doesn't really mean much. Though the server list is starting to look real lonely with 5 servers left.

Dragon551 06-05-2013 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1718838)
If you see it from another perspective, Graal is doing pretty fine with the mobile servers. The pc version just needs some attention and it would be fine.
Eh, I didn't really mean the mobile servers, they've only just begun. The PC servers have been in need of attention for a long time now, so it would be fine if that was taken care of but I don't see anything game-changing coming any time soon. Then again, maybe it's just me.

baseman101 06-05-2013 04:04 AM
If Graal PC had access to mobile servers, all would be fine. We have facebook instead.

NicoX 06-05-2013 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1718841)
Eh, I didn't really mean the mobile servers, they've only just begun. The PC servers have been in need of attention for a long time now, so it would be fine if that was taken care of but I don't see anything game-changing coming any time soon. Then again, maybe it's just me.
What do you expect? For Unixmad and Stefan Graal is a business. Of course they focus a platform where they can make good money, and PC is missing attention because of that. They are making 0 profit from people like you with lifetime classic accounts, should be gratefull they didnt remove them at all. I think the first step is made and the gold servers were moved to the classic tab, which is a sign to the right direction. And Im sure more will change soon.

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Originally Posted by baseman101 (Post 1718844)
If Graal PC had access to mobile servers, all would be fine. We have facebook instead.
But then the other Server dying out like Era, Zodiac etc, whats the point of that. Better: iOS user should be able to have their accounts (with subscription) being playable on PC too.

Dragon551 06-05-2013 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1718848)
What do you expect? For Unixmad and Stefan Graal is a business. Of course they focus a platform where they can make good money, and PC is missing attention because of that. They are making 0 profit from people like you with lifetime classic accounts, should be gratefull they didnt remove them at all. I think the first step is made and the gold servers were moved to the classic tab, which is a sign to the right direction. And Im sure more will change soon.
Well I know that, it's obvious. But, think about it, why do you think they didn't remove classic accounts? What do you think would've happened? Everyone would've eventually left Graal and that would mean the mobile servers would have less players, meaning they'd have less money. The PC community is hardly returning any sort of profit to them so of course they're not going to focus on it, it's a waste of time.

Also, working on GK doesn't mean you have to be all Pro-Stefan and agree with everything he says, you can have your own opinions too!

NicoX 06-05-2013 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1718849)
Well I know that, it's obvious. But, think about it, why do you think they didn't remove classic accounts? What do you think would've happened? Everyone would've eventually left Graal and that would mean the mobile servers would have less players, meaning they'd have less money. The PC community is hardly returning any sort of profit to them so of course they're not going to focus on it, it's a waste of time.

Also, working on GK doesn't mean you have to be all Pro-Stefan and agree with everything he says, you can have your own opinions too!
Dont worry about my opinion, I do that everyday, thats why GK is on classic/playerworlds tab.

Technically Graal could shut down all the PC stuff and go mobile only. They make enough money from it. The PC stuff is just a bonus, atleast so I see it. MAYBE 500-1000 USD per month? Dont think so many servers/accounts get purchased at all.
Would be interesting if they would publicy some statistics like other companies do, about their volume of sales etc.

dude2020 06-05-2013 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1718850)
Dont worry about my opinion, I do that everyday, thats why GK is on classic/playerworlds tab.
Yeah, that was all you. :rolleyes:

NicoX 06-05-2013 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1718852)
Yeah, that was all you. :rolleyes:
Im pretty sure you didnt email Stefan about making GK classic, so yeah :)

dude2020 06-05-2013 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1718853)
Im pretty sure you didnt email Stefan about making GK classic, so yeah :)
You're right, I didn't, but I know you weren't the only one, so yeah. :D

NicoX 06-05-2013 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1718854)
You're right, I didn't, but I know you weren't the only one, so yeah. :D
You know nothing, thats the sad part of it. But okay, everybody has his own opinion.
The next few months will show more about all this Classic stuff etc.

dude2020 06-05-2013 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1718855)
You know nothing, thats the sad part of it. But okay, everybody has his own opinion.
The next few months will show more about all this Classic stuff etc.
looool. yup, you're right. You were the only one, almighty Nico who is all knowing.

So, how many pay2win items are you putting in that gelat shop?

NicoX 06-05-2013 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1718856)
looool. yup, you're right. You were the only one, almighty Nico who is all knowing.
You are funny, really. Keep up entertaining the community, I like that. Thank you

Clockwork 06-05-2013 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1718857)
You are funny, really. Keep up entertaining the community, I like that. Thank you
Stop posting off topic.

Crono 06-05-2013 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1718848)
But then the other Server dying out like Era, Zodiac etc, whats the point of that. Better: iOS user should be able to have their accounts (with subscription) being playable on PC too.
A server like iClassic can easily be playable on PC. iEra is a mess so I'd ignore that, and servers like Zodiac and Valikorlia have different gameplay so they wouldn't be in danger.

Fulg0reSama 06-05-2013 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1718862)
A server like iClassic can easily be playable on PC. iEra is a mess so I'd ignore that, and servers like Zodiac and Valikorlia have different gameplay so they wouldn't be in danger.
Agreed.

But I feel like this is a topic meant for its own separate zone :(

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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1718848)
But then the other Server dying out like Era, Zodiac etc, whats the point of that. Better: iOS user should be able to have their accounts (with subscription) being playable on PC too.
Why not just make it so the subscription fee itself an option to give access to iOS servers for PC to PC servers for iOS? One flat rate, no side should be treated more specially.
I understand that there's certain elephants in the room about this idea, but haven't we honestly wanted a Graal where PC and iOS players can play together on the same server.

Crono 06-05-2013 11:55 AM
P2P model is dying out. It's either pay once and play forever (like we had, you know, to play our own content) or F2P with cosmetic and/or convenience purchases.

Fulg0reSama 06-05-2013 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1718866)
P2P model is dying out. It's either pay once and play forever (like we had, you know, to play our own content) or F2P with cosmetic and/or convenience purchases.
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...t._Obvious.jpg

NicoX 06-05-2013 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Clockwork (Post 1718860)
Stop posting off topic.
You are going yourself off-topic while telling me to stop posting off-topic. Makes sense right?

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1718863)
Agreed.

But I feel like this is a topic meant for its own separate zone :(



Why not just make it so the subscription fee itself an option to give access to iOS servers for PC to PC servers for iOS? One flat rate, no side should be treated more specially.
I understand that there's certain elephants in the room about this idea, but haven't we honestly wanted a Graal where PC and iOS players can play together on the same server.
I like this idea, the thing is though, if unixmad likes it lol. Lets see what will happen though.

Felix_Xenophobe 06-05-2013 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1718870)
You are going yourself off-topic while telling me to stop posting off-topic. Makes sense right?
I think what Aeko was getting at was that you in your position as GK manager should know better than to respond to obvious baits and off topic posts.

Anyway as long as **** doesn't go pay to win this is a good change.

Crono 06-05-2013 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1718868)
It's apparently not so obvious to some people despite being in the "industry" for ~13 years.

Fulg0reSama 06-05-2013 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1718872)
It's apparently not so obvious to some people despite being in the "industry" for ~13 years.
That's true.

Draenin 06-06-2013 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe
I think what Aeko was getting at was that you in your position as GK manager should know better than to respond to obvious baits and off topic posts.
Don't be a lulz-kill.

Rave_J 06-06-2013 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1718848)
What do you expect? For Unixmad and Stefan Graal is a business. Of course they focus a platform where they can make good money, and PC is missing attention because of that. They are making 0 profit from people like you with lifetime classic accounts, should be gratefull they didnt remove them at all. I think the first step is made and the gold servers were moved to the classic tab, which is a sign to the right direction. And Im sure more will change soon.



But then the other Server dying out like Era, Zodiac etc, whats the point of that. Better: iOS user should be able to have their accounts (with subscription) being playable on PC too.
I disagree with this..... PC Community gave them plenty of stuff that made them profit from mobile servers and also pc hosting servers....
so i disagree with the 0 profit maybe in subscriptions but i don't see iPhone players and androids coming out with any iPhone or PC servers like the PC community has over the years

-HateD- 06-06-2013 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by NicoX (Post 1718848)
What do you expect? For Unixmad and Stefan Graal is a business. Of course they focus a platform where they can make good money, and PC is missing attention because of that. They are making 0 profit from people like you with lifetime classic accounts, should be gratefull they didnt remove them at all. I think the first step is made and the gold servers were moved to the classic tab, which is a sign to the right direction. And Im sure more will change soon.



But then the other Server dying out like Era, Zodiac etc, whats the point of that. Better: iOS user should be able to have their accounts (with subscription) being playable on PC too.
Well I'm sorry that graal has to keep to commitments it made back in the day. I mean, as a business you definitely want to blame the customer for the shortcomings.

Join pc and iOS

Matt 06-06-2013 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe (Post 1718871)
I think what Aeko was getting at was that you in your position as GK manager should know better than to respond to obvious baits and off topic posts.

Anyway as long as **** doesn't go pay to win this is a good change.
+rep

BlueMelon 06-06-2013 11:47 AM
People do like their gelat potions on era...
Microtransactions ++


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