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luke10050 08-24-2012 06:29 PM

Road to Mp5.
 
So im going to be starting a progression thread for my road to Mp5.

Ill be mining rocks in the mine and selling them to shrimps for 9$ each.

The reason i chose to sell them to shrimps is because i dont want the hastle of having to sell to a different seller every time they cant afford to buy my rocks.

Ill be starting right now, all donations are welcome and here is the actual math.

Its 38 rocks a room which makes it about 3000 rooms

Current rooms:
110/3000 ill updated every night before i go to sleep.

Current Mining level: 8
Currently: Taking a break

WillaWonka 08-24-2012 06:36 PM

Easier method: scam.

shrimps 08-24-2012 06:56 PM

You might want to go to southridge, there is mines that give 38 rocks per TNT.
Plan ruined, math wrong. :D

kia345 08-24-2012 07:22 PM

I hope this will be the Era version of One Red Paperclip

shrimps 08-24-2012 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1702456)
I hope this will be the Era version of One Red Paperclip

You sir, are above me. I have no clue what that means.

Supaman771 08-24-2012 07:41 PM

HAI POJO

Taking bets on how far he gets before he gives up/just usds one.

Real response:
My quick math shows, if you use the Island mines, and don't be lazy and sell them to shrimps, it should only take you 2450 TNT. Selling them to shrimps on the other hand will require 2630 TNT. Doing the first option (given your current mining level) should put you at level 43 mining, so refining those rocks would inevitably take less time than mining an additional 180 TNT. (Just saying, easier isn't always easier)

I've seen a couple people do this before, and even helped some of them. I don't know how hard you're willing to no life it, but based off previous endeavors/examples this could be completed in 10 days or less.

Just thought this would be helpful, seeing as your 'original plan' would only require 3030 TNT and you set out to mine 500 more lol.

shrimps 08-24-2012 07:48 PM

I dunno, I could use those rocks, so I'm pulling for him. :D

luke10050 08-24-2012 08:31 PM

Woah, i got alot more responses than i imagined.

Thanks for the tips on going to southridge ill be sure to do that, and redo the maths before i go to sleep or next time i take a break.

And the whole prospect thing rogue, id have to stockpile all my rocks and then prospect them, prospecting 100k rocks would take a day intself so as i see it this is a little bit faster.

And why would i give up all im doing is holding down three keys while i watch tv.

ATM its going slower than it usually would because i can only carry 7 tnts and cant pick up / drop tnts until tim logs on

P.S rogue i did it for 3 hours yesterday after i got unbanned and 6 hours ish today

P.S.S ill be buying an mp5 at shop price due to me being unable to trade

Supaman771 08-25-2012 12:18 AM

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Spend 1k on a super strength potion, then buy all your tnt at one time.
TNT mining sends rocks directly to your inventory, you'll not have to pick up or carry anything else until you finish completely.

Once you're done, pop another super strength potion and refine all that **** at once... since you'll be level 43 that's 10 rocks per machine and should only take 3-4 hours or so.

Trust me, I'm a professional:

Dragon551 08-25-2012 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricxta (Post 1702470)
Why are you neg rep when you've actually got knowledge worth sharing :(

cuz he blackcat, ppl b like "he bad luck omg"

<3ukitty

Dragon551 08-25-2012 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricxta (Post 1702476)
Someone neg repped me with the comment spam, hope it wasn't you darling.
I'm too scared to speak my mind now... :'(

Wut no wasn't me o.o
They just jelus >:[

Supaman771 08-25-2012 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricxta (Post 1702470)
Why are you neg rep when you've actually got knowledge worth sharing :(

I'm too scared to speak my mind now... :'(

Because people are too busy pos repping **** like picture responses in the NGRT and stuff.

More or less because your second point here, people don't like it when you make them look stupid/wrong or when you have a valid opinion that differs from theirs. For more information, see my forum title (or w.e you call it).

BlueMelon 08-25-2012 01:49 AM

idk why you would want an mp5 these days..

Crow 08-25-2012 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricxta (Post 1702470)
Why are you neg rep when you've actually got knowledge worth sharing :(

Fixed.

shrimps 08-25-2012 02:34 AM

lol Rogue 102k rocks, cute.
Also you don't have to JUST TNT mine to get the rocks to go into your inventory.
They go into your inventory even when you wall mine and grab them. Unless something has changed recently?

Supaman771 08-25-2012 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by shrimps (Post 1702486)
lol Rogue 102k rocks, cute.
Also you don't have to JUST TNT mine to get the rocks to go into your inventory.
They go into your inventory even when you wall mine and grab them. Unless something has changed recently?

Dunno, but why would you wall mine in the first place?
:asleep:

WillaWonka 08-25-2012 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tricxta (Post 1702476)
Someone neg repped me with the comment spam, hope it wasn't you darling.
I'm too scared to speak my mind now... :'(

I get neg-repped up the ass. Zues is the only one keeping me at green :D

shrimps 08-25-2012 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supaman771 (Post 1702487)
Dunno, but why would you wall mine in the first place?
:asleep:

Dunno, just saying.

DarkRenji 08-25-2012 06:05 AM

i give u mp5..

Tim_Rocks 08-25-2012 06:30 AM

Today I've murder at least six people in cold blood, playing Era in real life is so fun!

WillaWonka 08-25-2012 06:37 AM

Damn now im in the red, some nub neg-repped :'(

Herb_P2P 08-25-2012 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by WillaWonka (Post 1702497)
Damn now im in the red, some nub neg-repped :'(

now you are green :)

Dragon551 08-25-2012 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herb_P2P (Post 1702498)
now you are green :)

If only you could get yourself one of dem greens

WillaWonka 08-25-2012 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herb_P2P (Post 1702498)
now you are green :)

thanks, now lets go for crow's amount of greens wooho.

Raeiphon 08-25-2012 08:04 AM

just an fyi, fn2k is statistically 10% worse than the mp5 and is 8% of the cost

shrimps 08-25-2012 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Raeiphon (Post 1702503)
just an fyi, fn2k is statistically 10% worse than the mp5 and is 8% of the cost

Yeah, but who wants to say "I've got an FN2K! Yes, I'm boss."

And shuuush you, I need those minerals.

luke10050 08-25-2012 11:02 AM

Lmao, it doesnt really matter what anybody says about mp5 im not buying it because its the best gun or because its worth alot im pretty much buying it because i like the graphics and sfx.
And rogue, i cant do that unless i get TNT added and stack like 3k TNT then go mining
but id still rather sell to shrimps i find prospecting incredibly boring.

shrimps 08-25-2012 11:30 AM

You can buy at the mall stand? Tim that isn't effected by weight, Tim has the first stand set up to sell x1000.

WillaWonka 08-25-2012 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raeiphon (Post 1702503)
just an fyi, fn2k is statistically 10% worse than the mp5 and is 8% of the cost

Sadly you can't compare statistics to a performance-ridden game. Good players can beat people with Tier 3 guns with an Ak47, believe it or not. Reason why it is statistically so close it because all the guns were nerfed because of to many complaints being that the MP5 was OP, regardless of how expensive it was.
Anyways, MP5 can still beat someone with a Fn2k if they both had the same skill, which is worth the extra 92%.

luke10050 08-25-2012 05:21 PM

Cant buy at mall stands either

its very annoying cus of all the flowers i have on me i can only carry 7 tnt means i have to leave the mine every 7 rooms makes it ALOT slower

also fn2k is .15 freeze mp5 is .1 thats pretty much what makes mp5 what mp5 is the .1 freeze.
may aswell use mk's since there cheaper than fn2k and also .15 freeze with a decent fire rate semi automatic though

Just noticed G36c is .1 freeze... i think i may just buy that?

Supaman771 08-25-2012 08:53 PM

G36k best gun. I sold my AUG and other **** and just use that now.

luke10050 08-25-2012 09:26 PM

g36c* and it pretty much has the same stats according to npcserver as mp5.

also im at 6122rocks/100000

Supaman771 08-25-2012 10:30 PM

g36k* is only 20k

best gun on era

luke10050 08-25-2012 10:40 PM

Gun Stats for 'G36k':
Damage: 20
Rate of Fire: .3
Freeze: .15
Reload: .35
Spread: 0.09 (10.31°)

Gun Stats for 'G36c':
Damage: 20
Rate of Fire: 0.3
Freeze: 0.1
Reload: .3
Spread: 0.09 (10.31°)

Gun Stats for 'Mp5 Navy':
Damage: 20
Rate of Fire: .25
Freeze: .1
Reload: .35
Spread: 0.2 (22.91°)

WillaWonka 08-25-2012 11:18 PM

I feel sorry that you believe G36c is actually .1 freeze.. and don't argue against because you won't know what you are talking about if you are in a disagreement.

luke10050 08-26-2012 01:15 AM

it is .1 freeze
but its .1 freeze x3
i just argued in disagreement and im right.

WillaWonka 08-26-2012 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luke10050 (Post 1702548)
it is .1 freeze
but its .1 freeze x3
i just argued in disagreement and im right.

Uh no, the burst fire is .1 freeze, x3, (So like .2 freeze) and the single fire is .15.

Raeiphon 08-26-2012 08:12 AM

i still don't understand why a weapon with .05 less is a whopping 890k more than its nearest statistical rival

that is just outright retarded and something i would change in a heartbeat if doing so wouldn't cause a massive shift in the economy

luke10050 08-26-2012 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillaWonka (Post 1702554)
Uh no, the burst fire is .1 freeze, x3, (So like .2 freeze) and the single fire is .15.

Okay so .1 x3 is .2 cus that math works well.
and even if the single fire is .15 doesnt change that its also .1 in burst fire.

and its because .5 is the biggest difference, .11 .12 .13 .14 are all the same as .1 but .15 is a huge increase.

Raeiphon 08-26-2012 05:13 PM

a 50% increase, yes, but functionally that is a 50ms difference that you will likely only marginally notice.


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