v6 Client Forced.
 

I believe v6 needs to be forced so all these Graal Trainers that are out there will become outdated. I understand that v6 still has a lot of problems according to what everyone is saying, but i don't think it should take this long to get all that worked out and make it the main Graal client. In my opinion since the release of Iphone Graal, the attention put towards PC Graal has decreased dramitically. This is completely uncalled for, considering there is still a large group of people still spending their money on PC Graal and not getting the support they should receive. So ya, in my opinion I'm basically tired of all the people crying about "OMGZ He/She haxx0rz!!!" When if v6 was forced and became the new graal client, all the trainers out there would become outdated. I'm not going to sit here and be hypocritical about it, because i myself have accused people of cheating as well. So i would love for everyone else to weigh in on this topic and post your opinion as well.

~JinChill

Implying the Graal trainers care about whether it's v5 or v6.

No, simply implying that v6 has outdated the trainers but people can still use them being as they can use v5 also.

Not to state the obvious, but wouldn't those who created the trainers just update their code to be able to work around v6..? Why rush the enforcement of the client when its not complete, just to temporarly block out these trainer users?

A lot of the well-known trainers have stopped getting updated, and do not work on v6.

i know more about japan than you do

Fix UDP on v6

I hate the v6 client, its full of bugs, has an ugly interface, no udp, and it takes like 10 minutes to start up.

10 minutes to start up? Damn son, your PC sucks..

The last time I saw a bug was back in Feb. I haven't seen one since. If I were to put the buggy tag on either V5 or V6, it'd be V5.

Haven't really noticed bugs on v6 in a while, but 5.12 definitely runs better/smoother/faster.

also fuk dat butt ugly GUI ****

I wish V6 would be released for the sake of no longer having to develop differently for the sake of 2 separate versions, but clearly there are still a lot of issues with it and so it's good that it hasn't been rushed out and forced on everyone. On the subject of trainer usage this is where it's within the power of scripters to implement solutions, whereas there's nothing a scripter can do about the lack of UDP in V6.

maybe if they fix the font, playerlist, the way Graal handles its windows, and work out the bugs in the v6 thread then we'd actually want to use it

This. I don't see them fixing v6 anytime soon with all the focus put towards Iphone Graal and now facebook Graal?? wtf?? PC Graalians are the ones who suffer from lack of support/updates. No more money is coming out of my wallet till some things change, that's for sure.

1) A lot of us don't want to use v6.
2) A lot of the money is currently coming from iClassic and iEra (both which you can access through FB). To put it into perspective, at almost any given time both servers have 1k each. Both work on micro-transactions...you do the math. ;p

It's understandable why not many people at the present time want to use v6. In the state it was released even as beta, they should have called it v4 in my opinion being that it is more of a downgrade than an upgrade. I also understand that Stefan/Unixmad is making a lot of money of the Iphone/FB servers resulting in poor service for PC Graal.

I liked v4 more than v5. v5 was cool because the PM windows used the forum icons, which meant :pluffy: snuck its way in! :D

The version I'm most familiar with is v2, and I absolutely loved that version the most.

v3 reminds me of the current v6-a lot of bugs, and never really made a full release.

v4, I don't even remember this one... no idea why. I think v5 overtook it really soon.

TSAdmin posted pictures of client logins v2-v5 (link)

Oh my.. The sweet memories of v2. :D

God I miss the looks of v2.

Everything was better in green.

Just do what Era does and force them to upgrade by restricting certain features of the game to only work on v6.

Not really a solution to the problem. V6 isn't exactly "completed" at the moment so forcing them to upgrade or restricting players from certain features isn't all that fair.

I want more users actually using it to gain more support to hopefully get it closer to a full release. Hopefully being the keyword, of course.

v5 is hardly a complete package. I don't see any bugs that are so tedious on v6 to prevent it from just replacing v5. However, I can't even tell if Stefan has been making any progress with v6 recently... and we're still stuck with an UGLY, poorly designed website.

The only client I've played that actually seemed complete was v2.31, which was the last of the v2 series.

If you want to force it just for your server then do a client version check when they log in and boot them off if their version isn't high enough. Either that, or script some anti-hack checks. You can find some decent ones by searching these forums I think, and if there's anything you need that isn't on the forums, I've got backups of some I've made before on my DropBox so just send me a forum PM and I might be able to help you out.

v2 looked the best but v4 ran slightly better iirc.

I actually took a screenshot of v3 back in the day:

You could change how v2 looked though.

Blurred for.. reasons.
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But yes, you could definitely change that around bit :3

vouch

I doubt UDP will be reintroduced in v6. Keep in mind, there's nothing to fix. There just is no UDP support in the v6 client at all.

which is dumb because people lag/delay without udp support. on zodiac/era, there's no difference but for classic servers like unholy nation, it makes a big difference.

I agree, but honestly i don't see PC Graal coming out with any updates anytime soon. Everyone's attention is set mainly on Iphone Graal, Facebook crap.. !pissed!

At least fix PM highlighting in V6 before it's forced =S

What?

Highlighting maintains its state if the mouse leaves the control(such as the text control). So if you're highlighting if the mouse leaves the text box it gets stuck in highlight mode. It's very annoying and it forces you to maintain accuracy while trying to highlight text to make sure your mouse doesn't leave the control.