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Tigairius 07-03-2011 09:51 PM

Ol' West Returns, Hiring
 
Overview

Most of you are familiar, at least of its legacy, with Ol' West. Ol' West is GraalOnline's first and only large-scale western shooter server. I have been asked to begin working on it again, and now we are looking for development help to bring Ol' West to the forefront of Graal.

For those of you who are not familiar with Ol' West, I posted a preview several years ago when it was still in development:

Finer details about the project will be revealed later.

What Positions Are Available (in order of importance, subject to change as project nears completion)
  1. Advanced LEVEL DESIGNERS capable of being creative and developing unique ideas and solutions for common problems that any level designer might encounter. This is not to say that you cannot ask other members of the team for help.
  2. GRAPHIC ARTIST willing to create aesthetic graphics (bushes, potted plants, possibly houses, tiles, etc).
  3. SCRIPTERS applying must be able to create things extremely efficiently while still maintaining pleasant composure on the product. Must be willing to accept advice in order to improve yourself.

We will be collaborating and communicating via AIM, email and google docs.

Requirements
  • Positive, respectable attitude. Poor attitudes are nonconstructive and unhealthy for the entire team and will not be tolerated at all.
  • AIM/ICQ, email, and a google account.
  • Must not share a computer with anyone else on Graal.
  • Willingness to work even if your ideas are rejected.
  • Ability to not share work and ideas outside of the team via screenshot, logs, and any other methods. The term "work" includes, but is not limited to our confidential plans, unreleased graphics, levels, and anything else which could be considered in any way property of the Ol' West project.

Payments and Compensation

Aside from working with the latest technologies in Graal, you may be compensated (depending on your work ethic) with gelats, promised staff position upon release, working with an organized goal-oriented team, résumé material, access to Ol' West, and even more.


Application Process

Levels Artists
A level artist must submit 1 inside level, 1 outside level (using any tileset, preferably pics1.png), and 5 other of their favorite levels they've made (any tileset). The inside and outside level must go into a folder called "application" and the other 5 levels must go in a folder called "extra". Place both folders into a zip file. Name the zip file <your account name>.zip - if you don't have an account, please make one at www.graalonline.com.

Graphics Artists
Submit a portfolio with some of your work in docx or pdf format. Name it <your account name>.docx or pdf.

Scripters
Send 2 examples of what you believe to be your best work and explain how it works. Explain why it's better than what is already available to the community, and how it is efficient. Please discuss any challenges you faced while completing the examples. Name the example files <your account name>1.txt and <your account name>2.txt

Submit applications to [email protected] with the subject of "Ol' West: <Desired Position>". Please also submit your portfolio and/or a brief overview of your experience.
If we are interested, we will contact you back for a followup.

Best of luck to anyone who applies.

Postscript:
Graal Kingdoms and Kingdoms iPhone are still very much in development and are not being abandoned. The staff teams on all projects are separate and each team is working diligently to provide updates.

oo_jazz_oo 07-03-2011 09:56 PM

May I inquire as to why this server is being revived? That last time this happened, it sat on the hosted tab for months, then was abandoned.

Not bashing, just wondering why effort is being put here instead of elsewhere on Graal.

Tigairius 07-03-2011 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oo_jazz_oo (Post 1657202)
May I inquire as to why this server is being revived? That last time this happened, it sat on the hosted tab for months, then was abandoned.

Not bashing, just wondering why effort is being put here instead of elsewhere on Graal.

Stefan and unixmad would like to see it succeed, as would I. We are not preparing Ol' West for PC alone this time, but for multiple platforms instead.

patrickp2p 07-03-2011 10:38 PM

OMG! So many great upcoming servers! I remember this definetly! <3 I hope it works out. :)

BigBear3 07-05-2011 12:15 AM

Wicked cool.

Sp_lit 07-05-2011 01:47 AM

I think this is great news and I wish you the best of luck with all the work!

Just wondering; about how many level artists will you be hiring?

Tigairius 07-05-2011 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sp_lit (Post 1657405)
I think this is great news and I wish you the best of luck with all the work!

Just wondering; about how many level artists will you be hiring?

We are only hiring about three, but that could change for exceptional applicants.

Seeya 07-05-2011 02:16 AM

Really glad to see this.

Supaman771 07-05-2011 02:41 AM

Best server ever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1657408)
Really glad to see this.

You remember.. :cool:

Gonna take some time to make a application later this week; can't wait for Ol' West to come back!
Era updates, now this..
So excited!

:D:D:D

papajchris 07-05-2011 03:25 AM

Im not sure if people would want to put graal on a resume, nonetheless, i loved this server when i saw it so long ago

LordSquirt 07-05-2011 05:11 AM

is my bff chris vimes working here?

ps:will there be a cat gang/mafia of any kind?

Tigairius 07-05-2011 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1657418)
is my bff chris vimes working here?

ps:will there be a cat gang/mafia of any kind?

Chris helps intermittently, but is not a full staff member at this time.

ps: I hadn't planned on it, but maybe I'll make one called The Aristocats.

Cloven 07-05-2011 05:46 AM

http://movie.zing.vn/Movie/resources...cats-42062.jpg

Supaman771 07-05-2011 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cloven (Post 1657422)
pic

Best.
Movie.
Ever.

Hiro 07-05-2011 08:57 AM

disappointing. i say you focus your efforts on projects already started

DuBsTeRmAn 07-05-2011 01:42 PM

Was about time :D

JesusFreak250 07-05-2011 04:04 PM

This is going too be awsome!

fowlplay4 07-05-2011 04:36 PM

That video could of been a minute shorter, done without the cheesy sepia filter and rickety camera movement that makes the video look choppy as hell.

Anyway gl.

JesusFreak250 07-05-2011 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1657464)
That video could of been a minute shorter, done without the cheesy sepia filter and rickety camera movement that makes the video look choppy as hell.

Anyway gl.

I think it gives it an a lot better effect, without it it wouldn't look as western.

LordSquirt 07-06-2011 04:06 AM

haha tig what a great name :p

Jimbo33 07-06-2011 06:33 AM

Nice! I liked that server back then :P

Sp_lit 07-06-2011 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1657464)
That video could of been a minute shorter, done without the cheesy sepia filter and rickety camera movement that makes the video look choppy as hell.

Anyway gl.

It's a few hundred years old, hence the low quality. Remember; HD was not yet invented at this point and they probably did not have a sturdy camera tripod

MattKan 07-06-2011 06:05 PM

I read on the wiki that this server is planned for multiple platforms...

You mean this will be the first server that is playable on both PC and iPhone or what?

Chelterrar 07-06-2011 07:32 PM

Sounds great, already started with the application :P
I hope i get accepted! :D

JesusFreak250 07-06-2011 07:53 PM

good luck Chelt!

Rave_J 07-07-2011 06:58 AM

Tig did u go full time and got paid?
like how would u have time to do this
Ur PWA Admin
Account Admin
Manager of Graal Kingdoms
u working on a project call Kingdom Iphone
and prob working with Stefan and unximad with Facebook and maybe answering iphone customer service tickets for them too idk about this part but its a good chance u do
now u want to work on Ol'West while u do all that and answer tickets ??

i just think u are over doing it a little bit

Rave_J 07-07-2011 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattKan (Post 1657634)
I read on the wiki that this server is planned for multiple platforms...

You mean this will be the first server that is playable on both PC and iPhone or what?

no hes meaning
Ol West PC be a server
iphone will be a seperate server
facebook a combine with iphone server i guess

they will never put pc and iphone together they just put iphone and facebook
stefan dont want to do it as he already stated

littlekinky 07-07-2011 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rave_J (Post 1657747)
no hes meaning
Ol West PC be a server
iphone will be a seperate server
facebook a combine with iphone server i guess

they will never put pc and iphone together they just put iphone and facebook
stefan dont want to do it as he already stated

I heard Stefan is putting izone and pc zone on the same server?

Rave_J 07-07-2011 01:57 PM

hardly doubtful due to its not a fair compete game with pc u might heard iphone with facebook

ThomV 07-07-2011 02:31 PM

I never liked Ol West, but I'm sure many others did. Hope it'll contribute to a better future for Graal.

I admire you for even attempting to lead two projects at once, I really hope you get to pull it off.

Best of luck.

Unkownsoldier 07-07-2011 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rave_J (Post 1657789)
hardly doubtful due to its not a fair compete game with pc u might heard iphone with facebook

PC and iPhone is practically the same as Facebook and I iPhone I presume. So there will always be an advantage.

Chelterrar 07-07-2011 04:26 PM

I just send my application :D Good Luck to any who try. I still hope it works out for me, would be a great chance. :D

Good Luck

Chelterrar

Rave_J 07-08-2011 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1657800)
PC and iPhone is practically the same as Facebook and I iPhone I presume. So there will always be an advantage.

.. pc servers are alot different then iphone and facebook servers
by far
like classic on iphone and look on classic on pc
look at era on iphone look at era on pc
facebooks getting 3d servers ect
pc idk
i wish they add back the 3d client dev tools but in a way
idk if anybody would get a server up due to the scripting skills
i can see ziro,tig,foul, and a few oldbies but not really anybody new
oldbies like pfa,ningnong,skyld

ffcmike 07-08-2011 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rave_J (Post 1657880)
.. pc servers are alot different then iphone and

He's not comparing the differences of the server content, but the difference in advantages between the platforms, inwhich there isn't too much difference in comparing PC vs iPhone to Facebook vs iPhone.

Interestingly enough they are supposedly creating a VIP subscription for iPhone players to be able to access their iPhone server account via Facebook (or something similar).
I don't see the separation of PC client - iPhone as a matter of fairness, I think Stefan/Unix are perfectly aware of how many remaining PC players are older, more cynical and feel that Graal is a rip off, and so want to avoid the possibility of more aware/knowledgeable players spreading a level of discontent towards their product onto the younger generation.

On a more relevant note, it would be interesting to see if Ol' West can fulfil a niche not currently present on Graal.

Trexaty 07-08-2011 05:18 PM

where can we get the tileset from? for LAT applications?

Clockwork 07-08-2011 06:04 PM

My rc better still work >:(

LordSquirt 07-08-2011 06:26 PM

Playing Graal on Facebook is no different than playing Graal on PC.

Tigairius 07-08-2011 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trexaty (Post 1657930)
where can we get the tileset from? for LAT applications?

Right now we just want to see your proficiency in the regular tilesets (pics1.png or similar format). If we're interested after seeing your regular levels, we'll ask you to make an Ol' West level.

Tigairius 07-09-2011 04:34 AM

Guys, let's stay on topic. Start a different thread to discuss these other things like Facebook, advantages of iphone servers, etc.

Rave_J 07-09-2011 06:07 AM

tig how was that a personal question it was a ol west question
i look at it not to be mean
but if u want people to donate there time to developing on Ol West we need to know if u actually got the time to develop for it and not wasting our time


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