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TSAdmin 10-15-2010 05:31 AM

Welcome a new face to the PWA: benpoke103
 
Today, a new addition to the team has been approved.

Please welcome Ben Rain (benpoke103) to the PWA.

Please note that he is a new addition so I ask for your patience while he gets a total grasp on his new-found rights and how they work (Syntax, what they affect, etc).

Also be aware that unlike the PWA's on the team before Ben's addition, he will not have access to such things as Global Bans (implementing and removal), Account information and general accounts access, or have the ability to disable/enable accounts. Think back to the kind of access PWA's had before all of that: Local bans and jailings, Server renames, investigation of illegal server content, and general playerworld administrative tasks.

Congratulations to Ben. ^^

MrAnonymous_P2P 10-15-2010 06:23 AM

Sounds like my 12 year old brothers AIM screen name

MrOmega 10-15-2010 07:19 AM

Congrats Ben, come check Varia out and tell me what you think.

WanDaMan 10-15-2010 09:58 AM

I haven't seen any notice on the forums stating that you're looking for a new member - that's un-fair, however; thankfully, you've made a decent choice.

Goodluck B'!

Soala 10-15-2010 10:23 AM

Congratulations Ben :)


Another un-noticed decision? You guys are getting really good at them lol

Sam 10-15-2010 12:31 PM

Congrats Ben!

xXziroXx 10-15-2010 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WanDaMan (Post 1606363)
I haven't seen any notice on the forums stating that you're looking for a new member - that's un-fair, however; thankfully, you've made a decent choice.

Goodluck B'!

This. But yeah, whatever, good luck!

kia345 10-15-2010 03:57 PM

hi ben

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Originally Posted by MrAnonymous_P2P (Post 1606347)
Sounds like my 12 year old brothers AIM screen name

It's better than pooper, that's for sure

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Originally Posted by Soala (Post 1606364)
Another un-noticed decision? You guys are getting really good at them lol

Yeah, I'm really glad the "p" in PWA stands for "No-regard for Player input whatsoever"

HirakoShinji 10-15-2010 03:58 PM

Grats Ben. ;)

TSAdmin 10-15-2010 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1606389)
Yeah, I'm really glad the "p" in PWA stands for "No-regard for Player input whatsoever"

The P actually stands for "Playerworld". The W has always been associated separately for some reason. Look at even the forum sections where the W in World is capitalised, though not separated. Possibly that's how it was perceived upon naming by little-English spoken persons at the time such as Stefan. If you, as usual, have to be nitpicky about such trivial things, we're literally the "PA".

To the point, and to be perfectly blunt about it, why would I want players telling me who to put on my team anyway? Who runs the team again? The suggestions I take are from my own team members. I'm not running an election when I hire people.

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Originally Posted by Soala (Post 1606364)
Another un-noticed decision? You guys are getting really good at them lol

Unnoticed? Stefan just set Ben's rights when I announced it. I then announced it. You just read it. I'd say you noticed. o_o

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Originally Posted by WanDaMan (Post 1606363)
I haven't seen any notice on the forums stating that you're looking for a new member - that's un-fair, however; thankfully, you've made a decent choice.

@WanDaMan: There was never any intention of advertising an open position.

@Everyone: Positions may come, positions may go. When it comes to the crunch, I would much prefer to hire those I know I, and my current team, can work effectively with (both as a team, and knowing as a body that the person hired can work unsupervised). That is better done internally as a discussion. We are the people behind the scenes. In all reality, the public shouldn't really know each and every individual on the team. We're a support group, not a guild of friends.

HirakoShinji 10-15-2010 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TSAdmin (Post 1606396)
@Everyone: Positions may come, positions may go. When it comes to the crunch, I would much prefer to hire those I know I, and my current team, can work effectively with (both as a team, and knowing as a body that the person hired can work unsupervised). That is better done internally as a discussion. We are the people behind the scenes. In all reality, the public shouldn't really know each and every individual on the team. We're a support group, not a guild of friends.

Well said.

kia345 10-15-2010 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSAdmin (Post 1606396)
The P actually stands for "Playerworld". The W has always been associated separately for some reason. Look at even the forum sections where the W in World is capitalised, though not separated. Possibly that's how it was perceived upon naming by little-English spoken persons at the time such as Stefan. If you, as usual, have to be nitpicky about such trivial things, we're literally the "PA".


Considering players are the ones playing and developing playerworlds, wouldn't it be more suitable to have them at least aware of the decisions the PWA are making before it is sprung on them unknowingly?

Certainly not! The players have nothing at all to do with the servers the PWA are overseeing! What on Earth was I thinking!? I was not aware the entire process of a playerworld's life has nothing whatsoever to do with players!

Certainly the "a" in TSA stands for inadequate!

I would like to see the focus group you show all these ideas to! I imagine it's just the circle of you guys, patting each other's backs thinking the lowly plebeians such as the players will love whatever you do, and that your decision isn't one that concerns them.
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To the point, and to be perfectly blunt about it, why would I want players telling me who to put on my team anyway? Who runs the team again? The suggestions I take are from my own team members. I'm not running an election when I hire people.
That makes perfect sense. God forbid the backbone of Graal, the people who run, create, develop, and populate the servers people pay to access (and create Graal's profit!) be in on anything administration does! They are naught but sheep, a lowly source of income. Slaves, if you will.

TSAdmin 10-15-2010 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1606399)
Considering players are the ones playing and developing playerworlds, wouldn't it be more suitable to have them at least aware of the decisions the PWA are making before it is sprung on them unknowingly?

If you much prefer, in future I won't spring it on you. In fact, I won't announce it at all. Though, I fail to see how this proves your point about the "P" in "Playerworld Administration", of which I've already acknowledged and corrected.

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1606399)
Certainly not! The players have nothing at all to do with the servers the PWA are overseeing! What on Earth was I thinking!? I was not aware the entire process of a playerworld's life has nothing whatsoever to do with players!

The servers the PWA are overseeing only require PWA input when bans, jailings, server renames and content theft require our input. Servers themselves are more specifically overseen by the local staff team(s). It sounds to me like your problem in this regard is more about the staff on a server rather than the PWA. Again, we're a support team. We're not here to make a server prettier for the players.

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1606399)
Certainly the "a" in TSA stands for inadequate!

I'm sure you're well aware of what it stands for, and it certainly doesn't stand for something starting with "i" :rolleyes: Got more problems? Forum PM me.

Notice: If people such as kia345 continue to derail this thread with nonsense, their posts will be deleted. This is no way to conduct yourself at a welcoming/congratulatory party.

Crono 10-15-2010 04:57 PM

yo gz ben

what are you gonna be doin and what happened to gst/bomy island

salesman 10-15-2010 05:15 PM

congrats

Bell 10-15-2010 06:35 PM

Good choice PWA, welcome to the world of support Ben.

Soala 10-15-2010 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSAdmin (Post 1606396)
Unnoticed? Stefan just set Ben's rights when I announced it. I then announced it. You just read it. I'd say you noticed. o_o

I meant unnoticed as in you didn't tell anyone applications were open or that you were possibly looking for another member to complete the team, you just went and hired Ben. The choice of the new PWA isn't bad at all itself, but the decision was too straight.

TSAdmin 10-15-2010 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Soala (Post 1606446)
I meant unnoticed as in you didn't tell anyone applications were open or that you were possibly looking for another member to complete the team, you just went and hired Ben. The choice of the new PWA isn't bad at all itself, but the decision was too straight.

As mentioned further back in the reply, there was no intention of making this an application hiring, and never will there be an application hiring under my direction. Straight as an arrow.

If you'd like to discuss this further, please do so in PM's. This is Ben's thread. :)

Soala 10-15-2010 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSAdmin (Post 1606450)
As mentioned further back in the reply, there was no intention of making this an application hiring, and never will there be an application hiring under my direction. Straight as an arrow.

If you'd like to discuss this further, please do so in PM's. This is Ben's thread. :)

I'm still ok with your decision and got nothing against it though.
Congrats to Ben again :)

fowlplay4 10-15-2010 07:49 PM

GL + Have fun answering emails and other boring stuff like that.

salesman 10-15-2010 09:39 PM

do PWAs get any sort of compensation? If not, why in the world would anyone put up with it?

Darlene159 10-15-2010 10:06 PM

Welcome aboard, and good luck!

Gambet 10-15-2010 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TSAdmin (Post 1606396)
The P actually stands for "Playerworld". The W has always been associated separately for some reason. Look at even the forum sections where the W in World is capitalised, though not separated. Possibly that's how it was perceived upon naming by little-English spoken persons at the time such as Stefan. If you, as usual, have to be nitpicky about such trivial things, we're literally the "PA".


No, pretty sure you're literally the PWA: Player World Administration

Whether or not you combine the word player with the word world doesn't matter in this case since such a combination of words is merely Graal terminology (so you could be the PlayerWorld Administration or the Player World Administration).

Although they aren't consistent with the capitalization, Cyberjouers capitalizes the 'W' in World more often than not, so I would think that's where the whole PWA thing came from. Here's some proof.

I wasn't going to post anything but you were arguing with others regarding what PWA means so I decided to chime in. I thought it was pretty obvious that the 'P' and the 'W' meant Player and World respectively (regardless of spacing and capitalization).



Oh, and congrats Ben, you've gone a long way since our Shaded Legends days. :)

MattKan 10-15-2010 11:03 PM

Woop!

scooter123 10-16-2010 12:00 AM

Gratz

Hiro 10-16-2010 12:09 AM

congrats ben, though honestly i couldn't care less about the PWA unless they want me to do something

MrName 10-16-2010 12:19 AM

Hi, Welcome to the team of the PWA.

Have fun there :)

Sky 10-16-2010 01:50 AM

Congrats Ben!

That would be cool if I could have a shot one day. xD

pooper200000 10-16-2010 04:11 AM

Congratulations!

benpoke103 10-18-2010 04:27 AM

I actually -just- noticed this thread :p

Thank you, everyone. I still can't believe how many years most of us have been playing, and still are. I'm glad I've been given an opportunity to help out the community in a way in which I can directly interact with those who need assistance, and provide higher level support than before.


I wish I had more to say, but I feel my actions are louder than my words, as they usually are :p

Crono 10-18-2010 07:18 AM

yo ben make graal not suck go

HirakoShinji 10-18-2010 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1607076)
yo ben make graal not suck go

Yeah Ben, you're our only hope.

Sinkler 10-19-2010 08:13 AM

Ben, I have heard only the best things about you! I wish the best of luck with your future as a Player World Administrator!

Mykel 10-19-2010 08:42 AM

Congrats Ben. You're a cool enough guy.

But, let's be realistic. PWAs have sucked and not really done all that much to actually stir up interest in graal since the Jinx and Torankusu days, with Spark being the brief exception.

Matt 10-20-2010 06:54 PM

Congratulations. ^^

papajchris 10-20-2010 07:06 PM

Good luck :) make sure you still have fun on graal, for once you don't, you will not be able to do your job effectively

Seeya 10-20-2010 08:52 PM

Just saw this thread now. Congratulations, Ben Rain.

Imperialistic 10-21-2010 11:09 AM

Congrats Ben.

PoJo hush about the players creating playerworld content bullcrap, it's a part of the game, always was.

Gothika 10-21-2010 03:46 PM

Congrats Ben!

Fulg0reSama 10-21-2010 03:56 PM

Gratz Benedict.


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