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papajchris 09-09-2010 12:42 AM

Hiring a few PR's
 
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99% OF YOUR QUESTIONS WILL BE ANSWERED IF YOU CAN JUST READ THIS POST AND THE APPLICATION.

Due to the inability for the PR's on Era to be online from 2am-10am EST (give or take a bit), I am looking for players who are interested in being a PR. Although I am mainly looking for people who are from other timezones, I may still hire one or two who are are around EST timezone. This application is more of a test than you may be use too. I have provided real logs, from real people for you (names of course have been changed). This will be your first objective as a PR. If you can't pass the test, then please don't send in an application. Read all directions carefully and good luck.

Any questions should be answered in the application which can be found at
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0Bw_...ut=list&num=50

or it has also been attached.

If PrApplication.docx doesn't open for you, just download PRapplcaiton.pdf (attached to this post)

Common words in logs:
Added Item (Recieved the item somehow)
Took Item (Picked up the item)
Removed Item (Somehow lost the item)
Laid item (Put item on ground)

I also recommend downloading Notepad++ to view the logs easier. (http://notepad-plus-plus.org/download) Thanks Chris or whoever showed that to PR's before

Nonepwnz 09-09-2010 01:02 AM

Whats our mission? I don't get it, all I have is a few logs. No "quests", or w.e I shall name it.

papajchris 09-09-2010 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nonepwnz (Post 1599699)
Whats our mission? I don't get it, all I have is a few logs. No "quests", or w.e I shall name it.

Open up PR Application. Eventually I ask you to go through logs and track an item.

jkldogg 09-09-2010 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PR Application
"• No recent ban history (on any classic server)"

Looks like im screwed.

MontyPython 09-09-2010 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jkldogg (Post 1599702)
Looks like im screwed.

Did you feel like a badass when you posted that?

Did you?

jkldogg 09-09-2010 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MontyPython (Post 1599703)
Did you feel like a badass when you posted that?

Did you?

No, lol I wanted to be PR before I saw this:

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Originally Posted by PR Application
You agree that you will be banned and reset on all of your accounts and blacklisted from ever being staff agian on era for abusing your rights.

I'd be too scared If I booted on the ET house at unstick me i'd get banned, lol.

Fulg0reSama 09-09-2010 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PR Application
You agree that you will be banned and reset on all of your accounts and blacklisted from ever being staff again on era for abusing your rights.

Damn man that's some hardcore agreement. Good thing they didn't make you give up your constitutional rights (O wait graal did that already.)

papajchris 09-09-2010 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1599714)
Damn man that's some hardcore agreement. Good thing they didn't make you give up your constitutional rights (O wait graal did that already.)

People have this belief that PR's are simply just PR's and shouldn't be considered staff. When in reality GP's can destroy the server. They choose who gets banned, who gets a trade reversed, they can warp to storage rooms/houses, they can spawn weapons (not all Pr's but you get the point). PR's have alot of responsibility, and I am sick of those who get hired and quit within a week. This app has test that is from a real situation, so real that me, darg, and akeon had to spend about 5 hours reversing trades. I need that dedication from all my Pr's, and I will expect it if i hire them.

scooter123 09-09-2010 02:30 AM

That's because people think being a PR is a easy thing to do, when it can be fustrating at times and expect an easy job. Sometimes it can be hard, and they are just too lazy and don't expect actual work. Good luck with the hirings :)

evilchaseofdoom 09-09-2010 03:20 AM

This application seems easy for me only because I have been banned for scamming before. Might sound wierd, but totally true because i've been through a PR explaining to me before how they found everything out, ez.

salesman 09-09-2010 05:17 AM

the virus killed my computer so now i cant apply for pr thanks a lot

Supaman771 09-09-2010 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by evilchaseofdoom (Post 1599734)
This application seems easy for me only because I have been banned for scamming before. Might sound wierd, but totally true because i've been through a PR explaining to me before how they found everything out, ez.

This guy for PR.

Butsrys, monty's application is better.

fowlplay4 09-09-2010 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1599764)
the virus killed my computer so now i cant apply for pr thanks a lot

The virus did you a favor.

Logababy 09-09-2010 07:43 AM

What does the PR application file open with?
On word it comes up with this random stuff.

MontyPython 09-09-2010 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Logababy (Post 1599790)
What does the PR application file open with?
On word it comes up with this random stuff.

Looking at the file extension sometimes solves a question like that. Only sometimes.


But you really are looking for my application, as PapajAthena has resigned due to unforseen circumstances. You may choose to fill out the application, but I'll warn you, your chances are slim at best.

Thank you for your time.

- Montgomery Pythagorean, Chief of Era Police (2010-Present)

Logababy 09-09-2010 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by MontyPython (Post 1599791)
Looking at the file extension sometimes solves a question like that. Only sometimes.


But you really are looking for my application, as PapajAthena has resigned due to unforseen circumstances. You may choose to fill out the application, but I'll warn you, your chances are slim at best.

Thank you for your time.

- Montgomery Pythagorean, Chief of Era Police (2010-Present)

Lol??

MontyPython 09-09-2010 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Logababy (Post 1599792)
Lol??

After revealing that you don't know what a PDF is, a blank stare would have been better than that pathetic little chuckle.


http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3949/rejectedr.png

- Montgomery Pythagorean, Chief of Era Police (2010-Present)

Logababy 09-09-2010 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MontyPython (Post 1599795)
After revealing that you don't know what a PDF is, a blank stare would have been better than that pathetic little chuckle.


http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3949/rejectedr.png

- Montgomery Pythagorean, Chief of Era Police (2010-Present)

:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused:

papajchris 09-09-2010 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Logababy (Post 1599790)
What does the PR application file open with?
On word it comes up with this random stuff.

Then open up the PDF. Some people are having issues with the word document. The PDF is the same thing, (Though you will still need the logs from the zip)

Jcs1919 09-09-2010 05:36 PM

I've done my application, where must i send it

Dnegel 09-09-2010 07:16 PM

I don't get it.

Seeya 09-09-2010 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Catbert (Post 1599723)
Seriously Kale, stop kissing Chris' ass. You honestly don't care about insulting people. your just doing it to defend chris cuz hes a bad boy.

i'll bust ur head ***** boy

papajchris 09-09-2010 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jcs1919 (Post 1599840)
I've done my application, where must i send it

the email address is in the top paragraph of the application

Frankie 09-10-2010 08:47 AM

what's the point of randomly looking through logs? sounds like a big waste of time to me.

DarkRenji 09-10-2010 09:02 AM

Icarus set the whole thing up, he destroyed his own item and is looking for attention!

xTcDiabloxTc 09-11-2010 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkRenji (Post 1599963)
Icarus set the whole thing up, he destroyed his own item and is looking for attention!

The best part is when they told me it happened I didn't even know I had a GG :(.

wolfncang6 09-11-2010 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jcs1919 (Post 1599840)
I've done my application, where must i send it

If you really read it, ''Please email application to [email protected] subjected PR Application. Note: Please DON’T PUT YOUR ACCOUNT NAME IN THE SUBJECT.''

Zachindahouse 09-12-2010 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wolfncang6 (Post 1600181)
If you really read it, ''Please email application to [email protected] subjected PR Application. Note: Please DON’T PUT YOUR ACCOUNT NAME IN THE SUBJECT.''

Thats stupid why wouldn't your put your Account name in the application???

papajchris 09-12-2010 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachindahouse (Post 1600290)
Thats stupid why wouldn't your put your Account name in the application???

I do that because i try to avoid all biasness. I know that i am bias, and to deal with that i dont want to know ur acct name until the end of the app.

Frankie 09-12-2010 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1600296)
I do that because i try to avoid all biasness. I know that i am bias, and to deal with that i dont want to know ur acct name until the end of the app.

good to know that the PR admin openly admits that he's biased.

papajchris 09-12-2010 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1600318)
good to know that the PR admin openly admits that he's biased.

If someone doesn't admit to being biased, they are lying

MontyPython 09-12-2010 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1600296)
I do that because i try to avoid all biasness. I know that i am bias, and to deal with that i dont want to know ur acct name until the end of the app.

It's an honorable attempt at being less biased, but I'll argue that being biased for PR hirings is (in theory) a good thing. If you're hiring developers, bias doesn't help at all. You need to be completely unbiased in looking over and reviewing their works. However, a Player Relations team member has nothing to do with the development side. All they're going to be doing is dealing with people and representing the server as staff. So knowing -who- they are and knowing what their previous track records/personalities are like (far beyond that of just obvious ban records) is absolutely invaluable.

This is where knowledge of the playerbase is a very good thing. If you've been on the server for a while, you have a better idea as to who the deviants are. It's more than just looking up their ban records and seeing if they got the right answers on the application.

The applications for PRs have always been a complete joke. They tell you nothing about how a person will actually behave as a PR. Everyone except absolute idiots know the -right- answers, the question is will they actually perform them when faced with the actual situation? They can promise they'll be good, unbiased, blah blah blah. It's all just talk.

Giving them an assignment with logs is a step in the right direction, I'll give you that. It'll weed out at least a couple extra idiots.

cbk1994 09-12-2010 05:45 AM

An admin needs to be biased in hiring staff...

if you hire people you can't work with the server falls apart.

xAndrewx 09-12-2010 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1600321)
If someone doesn't admit to being biased, they are lying

lol what?? haha

Fulg0reSama 09-12-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1600324)
An admin needs to be biased in hiring staff...

if you hire people you can't work with the server falls apart.

This is something you've said I have no problem with. Well done.

Liberated 09-12-2010 03:31 PM

Right now im looking at about 7 months worth of logs, and tips as to at approx what date the item got stolen?

edit: nvm found it.

papajchris 09-12-2010 03:57 PM

The prs have been chosen, thanks to all those who applied. There mere fact that you attempted the test shows me your atleast dedicated and patient. I really liked alot of people but obviously couldn't hire everyone. In the event that a pr is fired/quits I'll will pick from these apps again. Thanks

evilchaseofdoom 09-12-2010 05:22 PM

i made pr, haha i got it with my really big ban record im so good

DarkRenji 09-12-2010 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evilchaseofdoom (Post 1600385)
i made pr, haha i got it with my really big ban record im so good

oh nice :cool:

evilchaseofdoom 09-13-2010 03:52 PM

i was joking guys... i dont play era x.x i got u all hahaha


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