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Shards-Of-Fate 06-30-2010 09:46 PM

Development So Far (Feedback Please)
 
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/206/sampley.png

Long story short, Designing a playerworld. I'm shooting for none of the original sprites/tiles and such. This is just a sample of the sprite so far.

:noob: Feedback?

Soala 06-30-2010 10:18 PM

It looks a tad too bright for my eyes, but it looks good so far!

Edit: Skin is always difficult to do, so here's a better palette:

http://i45.tinypic.com/2c0met.png

WhiteDragon 06-30-2010 10:41 PM

It's going to be a lot of work to make all the graphics needed for a server from scratch. Don't burn yourself out.

fowlplay4 06-30-2010 10:51 PM

It's tiny, but it looks alright I guess.

Shards-Of-Fate 06-30-2010 10:52 PM

Thanks Soala.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1585144)
It's tiny, but it looks alright I guess.

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/1817/samplebody.png
The body. How's the anatomy? I'm trying to mimic the angle without making him look like a midget gorilla.

I understand WhiteDragon. I've done some server development before and yeah, doing it all myself would totally burn me out. But I'll just chug along slowly til I can find some help. I've never been a big fan of..."Come join our server..." (We've got nothing done.)

Soala 06-30-2010 10:58 PM

The top is coming great, but the legs look quite flat, and probably need some more "rounding".
Also, you could use the darker outlines between the arms and the body on the feet.

Shards-Of-Fate 06-30-2010 11:13 PM

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3125/samplebody2.png
Rounder, but not longer legs.

Edit: His away face.
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/5716/samplebody3.png

Clockwork 07-01-2010 12:07 AM

dunno if you're going for asian or wut, but here's a quick edit. Dunt listen to soala, he dunno wut he's doin anymoar. ( <3~ )

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2069/quickedit.png

Shards-Of-Fate 07-01-2010 12:21 AM

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8814/samplebody4.png

I like your eyes. But I think I'm going to keep him tan for now. There will be palette swaps for different skin tones later.

DeCeaseD 07-01-2010 12:23 AM

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I'd say you're off to a rather solid start. Although, your characters complexion/shading seems very soft (Not sure if this is what you're going for?), but in my opinion it could definantly use some fixing up. Along with that, it seems to lack a bit in contrast and shape readability, so I went ahead and did an edit on the character for you to show you what I mean, hopefully you can take a thing or two from my edit and apply it to yours.. ^^

Soala 07-01-2010 12:43 AM

Who ever said there couldn't be different skin tones? What I tried to do was to have a non-pale skin color, but the pale one is perfectly acceptable (though the outlines would still need to be a little darker).

Shards-Of-Fate 07-01-2010 12:55 AM

So I love the details, Deceased. But not all of them. Going to work on putting some of them in. But I didn't want everyone to look superbuff. And yeah the softer tones are my thing. No blacks or straight whites...And I'm still working out the details. Like Aging or maybe even Weight classes like a Fat, Thin, Toned kind of thing. But thanks for the feedback guys :D

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/4214/samplebody5.png
Updates.

Precise 07-01-2010 02:16 AM

Lookin' good man, keep it up!

DeCeaseD 07-01-2010 08:13 AM

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Very good progress man, and I wouldn't expect you to like all my details, after all it's you're work, not mine. I was simply giving you an idea of how I would have done it. ;) But anyways, as for the sprites.. the back seems a bit wonked in the arm/leg area as far as the shading goes. The arms look exactly like the front views when the shading for it should be reversed. And the legs look good except they could use some shading to show that they are slightly bent like the front views are. ^^ Here's an edit:

Elk 07-01-2010 08:44 AM

eager to see the sides

smirt362 07-01-2010 08:56 AM

I just messed with the colors a bit.
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3350/42590524.png
Yours on the left
Edit on the right.

Shards-Of-Fate 07-01-2010 05:09 PM

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4199/samplebody6.png

I'm having trouble getting the angle right. And taking a break from shading him.
Other notes, Softer eyes and I had reshaded his back last night as well. Thanks for the feedback guys. I'll have to post the design doc soon :D

Cloven 07-01-2010 05:27 PM

Looks nice. :)

salesman 07-01-2010 05:37 PM

nice ass!

Shards-Of-Fate 07-01-2010 05:56 PM

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/4199/samplebody6.png
Shaded sides :D Next update some clothes and hair styles..

Deeek 07-01-2010 09:29 PM

The legs are bugging me, too short - he looks like a midget

Shards-Of-Fate 07-01-2010 09:42 PM

I've felt they were too short, but I am shooting for the...graal angle as best as I can get.

Switch 07-01-2010 09:43 PM

The head should be higher up on the side view, probably the back view, too.

Shards-Of-Fate 07-01-2010 09:45 PM

What do you mean by higher up? My apologies.

Shards-Of-Fate 07-02-2010 04:56 AM

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1293/facialhairs.png

Beardface :D
S-Sideburns, C-Chin, M-Mustache

Liberated 07-02-2010 08:14 AM

i want the scm, and sm and cm.
With higher up i think they mean that it should be a few pixels higher, as in a longer neck.

Shards-Of-Fate 07-02-2010 12:54 PM

Mix and match is the point :D

Dnegel 07-02-2010 01:24 PM

Omg, I love the beards.

And they also got Soul Patch <3.

Fulg0reSama 07-02-2010 03:21 PM

Incoming Mario character?

Shards-Of-Fate 07-02-2010 03:32 PM

Right? Yeah--I just searched online til I could find an abundance of facial hair styles. Mario was a popular mustache. :D

Fulg0reSama 07-02-2010 05:02 PM

Hah I bet. You need to totally make a clothed character once you get the full work of the bodies and such done.

Shards-Of-Fate 07-02-2010 06:10 PM

Animating him at the moment. I'm hoping to get a walk/run done in the next day or so. :D Then yes, clothes.

FaLLChiLD 07-02-2010 06:23 PM

Pretty cool. Anyone else feel the rubber band arms though? Feel like something needs changed with them.

Shards-Of-Fate 07-02-2010 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaLLChiLD (Post 1585535)
Pretty cool. Anyone else feel the rubber band arms though? Feel like something needs changed with them.

Shirts and Shoulders. Thats what needs to be added. And soon!

No real progress. Simplified the facial hairs a little. Top row, Sideburns, Second and Third Row, Beards, Fourth and Fifth Row, Mustaches and Split Mustaches.

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/1293/facialhairs.png

Not done enough with the walking to show off yet--And I have some designs for clothes. We should see some more functionality. Thanks for the Feedback once again.

And Ideas? (Darn I need to post that design document.)

Maybe by months end I'll buy that server, too.

papajchris 07-02-2010 09:07 PM

If i was you i wouldn't buy a server. Just work on testbed or find an empty server and work on that. Don't waste your money until you have alot of work done (levels, images, etc.) just my opinion.

Fulg0reSama 07-02-2010 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shards-Of-Fate (Post 1585558)
Shirts and Shoulders. Thats what needs to be added. And soon!

No real progress. Simplified the facial hairs a little. Top row, Sideburns, Second and Third Row, Beards, Fourth and Fifth Row, Mustaches and Split Mustaches.

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/1293/facialhairs.png

Not done enough with the walking to show off yet--And I have some designs for clothes. We should see some more functionality. Thanks for the Feedback once again.

And Ideas? (Darn I need to post that design document.)

Maybe by months end I'll buy that server, too.

If you do purchase a server I would be grateful to lend a hand.

Shards-Of-Fate 07-02-2010 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papajchris (Post 1585563)
If i was you i wouldn't buy a server. Just work on testbed or find an empty server and work on that. Don't waste your money until you have alot of work done (levels, images, etc.) just my opinion.

Oh yeah. Man I won't be paying for a server until I'm ready to actually test things. Thanks for the advice, Not going to rent a server just so its up :/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1585564)
If you do purchase a server I would be grateful to lend a hand.

Of course man :D I'll give you a call when things go live.

Switch 07-02-2010 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shards-Of-Fate (Post 1585336)
What do you mean by higher up? My apologies.

Higher up on the neck. It's too far down and to the right, looks hunched without the hunched back.

Shards-Of-Fate 07-02-2010 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1585566)
Higher up on the neck. It's too far down and to the right, looks hunched without the hunched back.

Oooh. Well the side-view now has a longer chin. Though I think when he has armor he'll probably look a little better. But I'll see what I can do.

Unkownsoldier 07-03-2010 02:22 AM

Since the proportions of this char character are smaller than the actual Graal character, you are going to have to make a tileset with smaller proportions too correct? Is that even possible o.o? I mean it is, but I think it would be incredibly hard.


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