a community project idea
 

Hey guy's i been thinking and how can u make a server or even to think how to plan one without asking this question. I know everybody is tired of gun servers an just idleing doing quest or magic with dungeons ect like zodiac. So this is the question im asking what do you want to see to get graal back up. I want to do a project that will show what graal is and attract that 800 plus player account from iphone to pc verson. so new players what kind of server u want to see. now with this said an want to pick a idea together as a community an work on it together as a community project. instead of having 1 manager why not have 5 incharge an vote for everything. i know in 99/2000 of graal years my brother made a server with being inspire of old bravo he ask the community to help they sent him lots of things like odin a player on old bravo sent him a town ect. With this project i want community help with it not as just as staff but a community project so tell me what u think i want to plan it all out before i start

I don't think I understand what you're trying to do.

ok ill explan what does graal players want to c in a new server. second i want to make it a community project where 5 main players are incharge and if anybody want to help can submit work ect. so really no manager its like a team effort server

I think Testbed is the answer.
Describes Graal well and everyone can contribute!

What about styles? I mean, everyone out there is different, and has different methods on how to make graphics, create levels, etc..

All this would end up in a big and messed up pile of contributions which would make players remain only in levels they like to be, since the other ones would be completely different, for exemple.
Standards would be hard to set IMO.

Really?
I'd say a well made Quest based server is something Graal is currently lacking.

Check this thread out, you can see the difference between the different styles each level artist uses.

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=79951
It's a nice idea but I couldn't see it working out.

Well due to the popularity and only good things to say people want to see this..

http://forums.graalonline.com/forums....php?p=1577393

Dusty's laid out a significant amount of the planning, it's just waiting for someone else to pick it up and run with it.

If the community was ever going to get together and do something it should probably be that.

I think you should do a regular server and then make it a "feature" that you accept contributions from fans.

Would that be allowed since there is already an classic development server?

I agree.

I would personally prefer it if Thor (ffcmike) approved such a project since it is based on the server he is currently redeveloping.

ya theres classic but i dont even have to run it bell can or someone im willing to give my free time in helping to bring a server forward i think if we did classic style we would need more content that makes us different from classic just as me i can lat been doing it for awhile i did ganis an gotten decent at gfx but i have a history that im not proud of since i had a kid i mature alot an dont have the money to buy it thats why if we did a community project it could be graal company server like graal2001 once was if global was incharge we can talk to stefan about supporting a free one with classic accounts allow i have many ideas how we can be different then classic if u guus want to hear about them

if u were a good lat u can change ur styles to ur level anyway that fits the server theme me i can do reallu detail like zodiac or do classic style or zenkou when i work on a server i change the style that fits the server yes i always mess with styles of levels to see what fits the best ect npluse style is fun to do so is classic but very ez

Like every other gun server is based off era, and most 'classic' style servers don't look much different from UN? o.o...

Yeah but dusty's project is direct clone of classic level wise.

I'd hate to see what is no doubt highly impressive work go to waste and all, alot of thought, real proper planning and effort has gone into it, and I have to say to a much greater extent than most if not all server Development projects i've seen over the last few years, but unfortunately its construction has co-incided with the construction of an official Classic project which is still alive to this day, has also recieved alot of thought, planning and effort, has demonstrated quality on the Community Based content side of things, and is still progressing towards a Questing based setup.

Is it really in the best interests that in the event of the Development community here finally getting together and committing to such a large task (which is something that has been put forward on several occasions but never got off the ground), it be towards a server which not only shares its name/identity, core levels, tileset aka visuals but has quite alot of similarities in its gameplay?

And is it really in the best interests in the progressing Classic server itself that there would not only be yet another version of it on Graal, but this time a version of it which is actually not too different?

I think the ideal solution assuming the Community Development project were to get off the ground would be to salvage as much as possible of this work and re-organise it towards a new identity, this may lack the nostalgia value of Classic but would allow you to be fresh in more ways, you wouldn't have to worry about keeping it consistent history wise, which may be difficult if there weren't many people involved that are knowledgeable about Classic anyway.
Something entirely new would also allow greater freedom of design ideas among contributors, which is surely important for such a project to succeed.

ya i see where your coming from im mostly looking for something that new players is attract too. its hard to come up with ideas that havent been done yet i thought about a classic style sever with a different battle system or something like that

thor do u need any help with classic ?

Kindof, for the majority of the time since we started the work has been down to 2 scripters (myself included), 1 Level Designer, 1 Gani Artist/Tiler with only bit-part contributions from several others every now and then, but Classic doesn't require the type of movement you're attempting to start within this thread no.

ya/i been doing alot of ideas an hand drawing alot i will release ideas ect once i get my computer prob in july