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Elk 04-17-2010 09:52 PM

Looking for HQ Mechanicalpencil
 
Hey, I'm looking for super highquality Mechanical Pencils similar to Caran D'Ache ones but a little more extravagant, anyone know of a site that sells something like that?

preferably ø 2 mm

thats an example

http://www.carandache.ch/_imgm/Image...dor_MayaOr.png

Willing to spend up to 500$

Examples for exquisite designs like Mont Blanc too!

LordSquirt 04-17-2010 10:30 PM

I buy a pack of around 20 mechanical pencils for $8. I think they are BIC, seems to work just fine for me ;)

Demisis_P2P 04-17-2010 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordSquirt (Post 1569989)
I buy a pack of around 20 mechanical pencils for $8. I think they are BIC, seems to work just fine for me ;)

Those are either 0.5mm or 0.7mm.

Elk 04-17-2010 10:39 PM

Yea but I'm looking for something more unique to represent my passion to art and what I like to do :) of course, the usability has to be top aswell!

currently using this:

http://www.zc77.de/bilder/13942B.jpg

LordSquirt 04-17-2010 10:57 PM

What I said was a joke qq :(

i'm so bad

salesman 04-17-2010 10:59 PM

there's children starving in africa, and you're buying 500 dollar pencils :\

cbk1994 04-17-2010 11:00 PM

pens ftw

quickshooter 04-17-2010 11:02 PM

http://davesmechanicalpencils.blogsp.../my-top-5.html

Elk 04-17-2010 11:29 PM

oh very nice, thanks :) still open for more!

unfortunately none of them are 2 mm :(

salesman, me buying a 500 dollar pencil is the same as others buying a car, a pencil means alot to me :)

jederanged 04-17-2010 11:40 PM

http://www.harrods.com/HarrodsStore/...=search-result

This is from Harrods, I think theres more, but the website is a bastard to get around.

kia345 04-18-2010 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1569995)
there's children starving in africa, and you're buying 500 dollar pencils :\

But if they're not starving and doing hard labor for a dime, who's going to make the $500 pencils?

Unkownsoldier 04-18-2010 12:27 AM

lmao, stick to pixels elk. You don't need a pencil then.

Elk 04-18-2010 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1570028)
lmao, stick to pixels elk. You don't need a pencil then.

Looks like you don't know anything...

I had a pencil in my hands years before I even knew what a pixel is, and I'm hundred times better at pencil-drawings than at pixelwork :)

Dnegel 04-18-2010 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1570159)
I had a pencil in my hands years before I even knew what a pixel is, and I'm hundred times better at pencil-drawings than at pixelwork :)

Same here, I sucked at pixeling and I still am. I work much faster and better with a paper and a pencil.

quickshooter 04-19-2010 10:21 PM

actually very difficult to find "expensive" 2mm, or any 2mm mechanical pencils on the net. and due to my being very bored at work, ive actually looked quite a bit for you...

i found some resources that may help you like the above link i posted:

http://www.cultpens.com/acatalog/Mec...l_Pencils.html
^^a pretty cool resource - it even has a "pencil finder" where you put in the specs u want and it searchs for a match... everything i find is >75$

(link to my search: http://www.cultpens.com/acatalog/Pen...hp#ls=2,pencil )

http://www.leadholder.com/forum/
^^ a forum with people much like yourself (ask there u might get further)

hope you find one, let me know when you do

P.S. seems to me that the smaller the lead size, the more expensive they become. found a few .3mm lead mech pencils upwards of 250$

Stephen 04-19-2010 10:30 PM

Just have someone design and machine one for you. That'd be a pretty clear display of passion.

Clockwork 04-19-2010 11:04 PM

http://www.myeasypics.com/is.php?i=5...TM2.0BLACK.jpg

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOMBOW-MONOTECH-...-/260579769355

CharlieM 04-19-2010 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1570555)
Just have someone design and machine one for you. That'd be a pretty clear display of passion.

adding on to this, design your own and have someone machine it, Just gonna add this in, Wood can look pretty expensive, My dad makes stuff on the lathe out of expensive wood, but there only like 25$ and there pens..I'm sure there's a kit for mechanical pencils, just a suggestion, or get a solid gold one

coreys 04-20-2010 12:01 AM

I'd prefer a good old fashioned set of wooden pencils any day. 2B, HB, and 2H is all you need ;)

smirt362 04-20-2010 12:08 AM

Whats the point of a high quality mechanical pencil?

quickshooter 04-20-2010 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smirt362 (Post 1570599)
Whats the point of a high quality mechanical pencil?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1570012)
oh very nice, thanks :) still open for more!

unfortunately none of them are 2 mm :(

salesman, me buying a 500 dollar pencil is the same as others buying a car, a pencil means alot to me :)

^^

Seeya 04-20-2010 02:39 AM

I don't know if your trying to be smart.. but that doesn't answer his question.

Imperialistic 04-20-2010 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1570636)
I don't know if your trying to be smart.. but that doesn't answer his question.

A pencil means a lot to him, how do you not understand that?
I believe he most likely makes money for his artwork, so to make money he will need high quality tools probably.

quickshooter 04-20-2010 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1570636)
I don't know if your trying to be smart.. but that doesn't answer his question.


I dont think i was being smart, but if you want to go that route... theres 3 answers to this question:

Q."Whats the point of a high quality mechanical pencil?"

a1. me buying a 500 dollar pencil is the same as others buying a car, a pencil means alot to me (assuming "the point" was his personal reason)

a2. Art and Drawing

Different things may be important for artistic drawing and sketching, compared to technical drawing - though some artists prefer drafting pencils. A pencil for sketching is likely to be a more subjective and individual thing, but here are some of the more important considerations...

* Available lead hardnesses: not really anything to do with the pencil as such, but a range of hardnesses can be as important to an artist as a range of widths - maybe more so. Some hardnesses are only available in certain widths (Pilot ENO lead has the widest range), with 0.5mm usually having the best range. If this is important to you, check that you can get the right width of lead for the pencil you're considering, in the hardnesses you want to use.
* Balance: because sketching and drawing is usually done with faster movements than technical drawing, the balance of the pencil is more important. You may only find out by experimenting if you prefer a light or heavy pencil, and if you prefer the weight to be mainly towards the tip, or towards the centre. Try a few pens and pencils you have, to see which feel better balanced in your hand, then work out where the weight of them is concentrated.
* Thick leads: some artists use 0.5mm mechanical pencils, but most prefer thicker leads. Mechanical pencils are only commonly available with 0.9mm leads, but Faber-Castell make some with 1.4mm leads (for the e-Motion), and Pilot make a special artist's pencil, the Croquis, with 3.8mm leads.
* Portability: if you like to be able to sketch anywhere, you need to make sure your pencil is portable enough to be with you when you want it.

For drawing and sketching, you may also want to look at clutch pencils, which are are available with 2mm or thicker leads.
(assuming "the point" is the actual functionality of having a HQ mechanical pencil vs. a little BIC one)

a3. The part that is most likely to pierce your skin (assuming "the point" is the point)


As to the reason why that question was asked in the first place, i feel it was an attempt of one artist to undermine another.

salesman 04-20-2010 05:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickshooter (Post 1570649)
I dont think i was being smart, but if you want to go that route... theres 3 answers to this question:

Q."Whats the point of a high quality mechanical pencil?"

a1. me buying a 500 dollar pencil is the same as others buying a car, a pencil means alot to me (assuming "the point" was his personal reason)

a2. Art and Drawing

Different things may be important for artistic drawing and sketching, compared to technical drawing - though some artists prefer drafting pencils. A pencil for sketching is likely to be a more subjective and individual thing, but here are some of the more important considerations...

* Available lead hardnesses: not really anything to do with the pencil as such, but a range of hardnesses can be as important to an artist as a range of widths - maybe more so. Some hardnesses are only available in certain widths (Pilot ENO lead has the widest range), with 0.5mm usually having the best range. If this is important to you, check that you can get the right width of lead for the pencil you're considering, in the hardnesses you want to use.
* Balance: because sketching and drawing is usually done with faster movements than technical drawing, the balance of the pencil is more important. You may only find out by experimenting if you prefer a light or heavy pencil, and if you prefer the weight to be mainly towards the tip, or towards the centre. Try a few pens and pencils you have, to see which feel better balanced in your hand, then work out where the weight of them is concentrated.
* Thick leads: some artists use 0.5mm mechanical pencils, but most prefer thicker leads. Mechanical pencils are only commonly available with 0.9mm leads, but Faber-Castell make some with 1.4mm leads (for the e-Motion), and Pilot make a special artist's pencil, the Croquis, with 3.8mm leads.
* Portability: if you like to be able to sketch anywhere, you need to make sure your pencil is portable enough to be with you when you want it.

For drawing and sketching, you may also want to look at clutch pencils, which are are available with 2mm or thicker leads.
(assuming "the point" is the actual functionality of having a HQ mechanical pencil vs. a little BIC one)

a3. The part that is most likely to pierce your skin (assuming "the point" is the point)


As to the reason why that question was asked in the first place, i feel it was an attempt of one artist to undermine another.

tl;dr:
http://www.thevine.com.au/resources/...0310102609.jpg

smirt362 04-20-2010 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quickshooter (Post 1570649)
As to the reason why that question was asked in the first place, i feel it was an attempt of one artist to undermine another.

Thanks for answering my question, but I was not trying to undermine anyone. I was just wondering what the point is to buying an expensive pencil.

Elk 04-20-2010 05:27 AM

Lets put it that way, a pencil that not everyone has gives me a more comfortable feeling when drawing, and it gives me even more motivation to draw with the said pencil, a special feeling of some sorts

Drawing isnt just "drawing" for me...its so much more, im so careful about things a normal guy would never be able to do, the sound of drawing, the contact between lead and paper, its like sex

Hence I need a special pencil for me to enhance that feeling :)?

http://cgi.ebay.at/NEU-MONTBLANC-Ble...item5191a150cf

adam 04-20-2010 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1570673)
Lets put it that way, a pencil that not everyone has gives me a more comfortable feeling when drawing, and it gives me even more motivation to draw with the said pencil, a special feeling of some sorts

Drawing isnt just "drawing" for me...its so much more, im so careful about things a normal guy would never be able to do, the sound of drawing, the contact between lead and paper, its like sex

Hence I need a special pencil for me to enhance that feeling :)?



http://cgi.ebay.at/NEU-MONTBLANC-Ble...item5191a150cf

A pencil that not everybody has. If that's all it is, make your own, or find somebody who does custom work. Otherwise it seems very ridiculous to try to find the most desirable pencil and get that one. Why get something everybody else is after if you want something unique?

Also, that's creepy.

DustyPorViva 04-20-2010 07:48 AM

You gonna **** it?

Fulg0reSama 04-20-2010 07:52 AM

His idea of a mechanical pencil is something you hold and draw with (with some random displays of deeper affection for it and art)

My idea of a mechanical pencil:
http://www.thestylehouse.ca/wp-conte...ardi_large.jpg

Comes with its own pallete, You can erase it with ease! (Especially if you are a rager) and its a popular toy for kids!

Elk 04-20-2010 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adam (Post 1570696)
A pencil that not everybody has. If that's all it is, make your own, or find somebody who does custom work. Otherwise it seems very ridiculous to try to find the most desirable pencil and get that one. Why get something everybody else is after if you want something unique?

Also, that's creepy.

I didn't say a pencil that nobody else but me has, lol, i want something exclusive, hence me spending so much :)

nobody is after a pencil that is unique, rofl, because not everyone shares that passion :) you misunderstand alot
regardless of you not even being an artist (afaik)

don't be so hypocrite

Also, don't troll my thread,

as for Stephens advice, that would be a little TOO expensive, I think (2-3k)

Clockwork 04-20-2010 10:47 AM

Lol, give me a day or two and I'd be able to make a mechanical pencil from nice Cocobolo or Cannarywood and the innards of an old 2mm. XP

Fulg0reSama 04-20-2010 11:05 AM

http://img.alibaba.com/photo/1109908...g_BC_Grade.jpg
+
http://www.gearys.com/gearyssf/image...ium/148680.jpg
=
http://www.freshpromotions.com.au/pr...cal-pencil.jpg
?

Elizabeth 04-20-2010 12:27 PM

make your own pencil

Elk 04-20-2010 02:40 PM

I don't know how to craft Gold or Rhodium or Silver or any of that knowledge, else I would!

Dnegel 04-20-2010 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1570699)

Got the EXACT same concept as a drawing I made once. x_x

Also, I am not the kinda type that use super tools or anything too draw. If I had I would probably use them but meh'.

If I got a little piece of paper, and a pen or a pencil, I start drawing. :cool:

Elk 04-20-2010 03:30 PM

Well I sell my drawings, i cant just pick any paper or so XD

smirt362 04-20-2010 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1570697)
You gonna **** it?

You must spread some reputation around before giving it to DustyPorViva again. :cry:

Dnegel 04-20-2010 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1570761)
Well I sell my drawings, i cant just pick any paper or so XD

Yeh, I can understand that. ^^

I wish I could sell what I drawed, but I wouldn't get much lol.

Stephen 04-21-2010 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1570711)
as for Stephens advice, that would be a little TOO expensive, I think (2-3k)

Probably more like $450.


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